A&E The Killing Season Episodes 1 and 2

[Steleheart]

Done.

What's it like to be so wonderful!? :happydance:

 

[Padron18]

BCA, yes your thoughts of him being of Religious Faith is spot on. I myself wrote about him and his Character. I believe that he is your every day fellow, man of the neighborhood who will be well liked within his community. He will be your Family man with children and he like you said will be attending a Church somewhere's close to where he lives. The reason he posed them to the East is because that is the direction that almost all Religions place and face their dead is towards the East. Also if you noticed one Victim was found along the road side directly across from the mile marker 24, so could it be him telling the Police this is #24 on my books and you can't catch me. Good luck to you BCA.

 

[shadowraiths]

the Long Island case seems very tainted and has different implications on possible suspects. One interesting scenario brought to the fbi was that James b**k, ex high ranking cop in Suffolk and others engaged in sexual parties where they alledgedly could of possibly killed escorts. In which it is alledge that the cop slowed down investigations and the LI killings possibly had some powerful people possibly connected to these ritual parties?

In light of this post, I am including a link for those who wish to better understand why this angle has been raised.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...urke-Former-Suffolk-Co-PD-Chief-December-2015

 

[Bon Bon55]

First of all is it possible to get the cases because they are cold? Second did anyone ever think that maybe they are not saying anything in Atlantic city because the person doing it might be related to someone in authority?

 

[Angleton Texas Lady]

Possibly the Florida killings where the victims were shot in the head may be related to killing off I45 in Houston. Some of the victims in the Texas Killing Field were shot in the head, also. Tim Miller of Texas Equisearch(sp.) daughter was a victim. I don't believe she was shot in the head but I am sure he would have information on other murders.

 

[Kotton]

Seems fishy that Noone seems interested in solving this as far as chief of police or Da's in regards to lisk. Makes me wonder if it wasn't like the Das son .
why else would everyone thats involved turn a blind eye? I'm in western Canada and this is the first I've heard or seen anything about this . The only reason you wouldn't investigate this harder is because you are worried about what it will turn up .

 

[FindHG]

Possibly the Florida killings where the victims were shot in the head may be related to killing off I45 in Houston. Some of the victims in the Texas Killing Field were shot in the head, also. Tim Miller of Texas Equisearch(sp.) daughter was a victim. I don't believe she was shot in the head but I am sure he would have information on other murders.

First of all is it possible to get the cases because they are cold? Second did anyone ever think that maybe they are not saying anything in Atlantic city because the person doing it might be related to someone in authority?

:welcome4:​

Angleton Texas Lady and Bon Bon55: Thank you for joining Websleuths. Looks to me like you're on your way sluething, which is neat about both your posts. Very encouraging. It's considering and comparing circumstances as you both have that helps get answers for these savagely taken lives and some justice for their loved ones and all those touched by it.

Seems fishy that Noone seems interested in solving this as far as chief of police or Da's in regards to lisk. Makes me wonder if it wasn't like the Das son .
why else would everyone thats involved turn a blind eye? I'm in western Canada and this is the first I've heard or seen anything about this . The only reason you wouldn't investigate this harder is because you are worried about what it will turn up .

:welcome: Kotton, too. Heh, tell me about it. There's been a lot of progress and much yet still to do, let's hope Josh and Rachel's "The Killing Season" helps set things much more right.

 

[Kotton]

That's what I think bonbon . They are tight lipped because it's someone high ranking in authority with a serious problem why else wouldn't you be investigating this tirelessly

 

[shadowraiths]

Possibly the Florida killings where the victims were shot in the head may be related to killing off I45 in Houston. Some of the victims in the Texas Killing Field were shot in the head, also. Tim Miller of Texas Equisearch(sp.) daughter was a victim. I don't believe she was shot in the head but I am sure he would have information on other murders.

As an fyi, there's a forum for the Daytona Beach murders.

Eta, I do recall some discussion with regard to a Texas serial killer, whose travels took him to Florida, and some speculation thereof.

 

[Angleton Texas Lady]

Kotton in Canada the killings in LI, NJ, and FL are not the only ones going unsolved. Refer to I45 serial killer or Texas Killing Field there are victims there that were shot in the head but many others as well. Too many unsolved killings. Like no one cares.

 

[Angleton Texas Lady]

Thanks for letting me know still navigating the site. I was just speaking in general about the whole thing because who knows the guy could be traveling from NY to NJ, FL, and TX. Possibly the reason he hasn't been caught. All places close to the beach.

 

[Kotton]

Texas lady I truly feel for everyone of the victims that have gone without justice . We have a similar problem " The highway of tears" lots of women have gone missing with no answers . It's all very sad and disturbing I really hope this show sheds a new light on things and it's obviously bringing awareness to these cases which is great

 

[shadowraiths]

Kotton in Canada the killings in LI, NJ, and FL are not the only ones going unsolved. Refer to I45 serial killer or Texas Killing Field there are victims there that were shot in the head but many others as well. Too many unsolved killings. Like no one cares.

I don't know about "not caring" but yes, the solve rate is very low.

For example, of various unsolved SK cases, there's the Connecticut River Killer, Highway of Tears, Jennings, West Mesa, etcetera

And, if you go further back, the Zodiac Killer & East Area Rapist/Original Night Stalker, remain unsolved.

The latter two (Zodiac & EAR/ONS) were occurring concurrently, in the late 1960s, and there was arguably enough overlap for some to think they were one and the same (they weren't, DNA ruled it out).

When one begins dipping their toe into these particular waters, they may be surprised (or not) to learn that the solve rate is approximately 60%. A value that some might even argue, is high.

And, if you explore far enough, you'll find the depravity is breathtakingly appalling. Take the case of David Parker Ray, aka the Toy Box Killer, or, for that matter, Robert Pickton, the Pig Farmer.

 

[Stacieinsac]

The only way to catch lisk is to back off and let him feel comfortable enough to do it again. I would be very suprised if any sk feels comfortable enough to work on the east coast right now because of heightened awareness. Another way to stop sks from killing prostitutes is to make it legal and when you make it legal make the transaction always traceable. I hope that society is happy about making the escort feel shame about what they do. Now do you see what happens when society cant handle the truth!! Sorry I go off on a rant. I have other reasons for being jaded towards society's rules and I might discuss them but not this time.

 

[Haylar]

Hi Websleuth!! Me & my family might have all the answers or a great lead to the Riverman.. Me & my girlfriend are from Jennings, Louisiana; A very eeire small town with some very dark secrets. Between the years of 2005 & 2009, eight women were murdered. All of the women were involved in prostitution & drugs. I have a feeling these tragic murders could be at the hand of the riverman based on his travels & other allegations. Each of the women were found in canals & ditches naked. The PD does not comment on the investigation. For further information please message me, I'm hoping this makes it around to Rachel & Josh. There is plenty more key facts that I do want to state unless further information is requested. Thank you!

 

[kanzz]

This seems to come up fairly often. Would it make it any easier if maybe there was a link at the bottom of "The Killing Season News" header bar? Just a thought.
:thinking:

I've added it as a sticky, and it shows up in both the Welcome section as well as this forum.

Excellent. Maybe this will help even non-members find a quick link for reporting purposes. Hopefully, it might even render more tips.

 

[margarita25]

Hi Websleuth!! Me & my family might have all the answers or a great lead to the Riverman.. Me & my girlfriend are from Jennings, Louisiana; A very eeire small town with some very dark secrets. Between the years of 2005 & 2009, eight women were murdered. All of the women were involved in prostitution & drugs. I have a feeling these tragic murders could be at the hand of the riverman based on his travels & other allegations. Each of the women were found in canals & ditches naked. The PD does not comment on the investigation. For further information please message me, I'm hoping this makes it around to Rachel & Josh. There is plenty more key facts that I do want to state unless further information is requested. Thank you!

Welcome Haylar.

:welcome5:

 

[margarita25]

Is there an area of the forum which specifically discusses back page (and cl)? I think the figure of $1500, mentioned in the episode as the overheard figure, might be worthwhile to somehow cross reference if not already done so? Tia.

 

[kanzz]

Is there an area of the forum which specifically discusses back page (and cl)? I think the figure of $1500, mentioned in the episode as the overheard figure, might be worthwhile to somehow cross reference if not already done so? Tia.

Yes -
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?321487-Suspicious-Backpage-Adult-Listings!

 

[DeDee]

Also I think Shannon Gilbert is related to the bodies on Ocean Parkway. Its just to much for it to be a coincidence. I think either someone in that gated community is Lisk or he was visiting someone there and picked her up. I don't think he is far from Oak Beach. Maybe he is married with children and his family vacations or visits relatives in the summer months, and he has to stay behind for "work"? Or maybe he has a house or apt nobody else knows about, or has complete control over his family and they dare not ask him about his business, he might work late hours. But then again i might be wrong. We won't know until he is caught and brought to justice. And as far as Shannon Gilbert goes, maybe its common place for ladies of the night to turn up dead in Oak beach, idk never been there? Maybe LISK is a group of men all covering for each other? But when the cops say Shannon said "they're trying to kill me", I tend to believe her. I don't think a little coke would make her that hysterical, being in her profession in sure she had done it more than a few times. I think either the John tried to drug her and she realized it want coke, or he said something that made her fear for her life. Maybe her driver procured women for LISK or group of LISKS. All these theories i find more convincing than two competing serial killers in the same location at the same time. Maybe its just me? It just seems so obvious.

But when the cops say Shannon said "they're trying to kill me", I tend to believe her. I don't think a little coke would make her that hysterical, being in her profession in sure she had done it more than a few times. I think either the John tried to drug her and she realized it want coke, or he said something that made her fear for her life.

Shannan Gilbert was the one who ran out into the dark outdoors knocking on a couple of doors in hysteria. One guy answered his door but she could only stare and say they want to kill me. IF Shannan was using suboxone [for rehab] and was given drugs, then it could cause an immediate psychosis. She became paranoid and hid behind the sofa. The 23m 911 call was still ongoing when SG arrived at the neighbors home, iirc. Usually the victims of mixing opioids with suboxone will shed their clothing because their body temperature can rise as high as 105.

This could explain why her clothing, as she was stripping free from them in an attempt to cool her core, was scattered along the way to her final fall, face down; not with her face turned toward the east. It is possible that SG died from shock and exhaustion. If suboxone and opioids were involved, it causes the heart to race so rapidly that it becomes fatal.

The driver, MP, and her client, B, passed lie detector tests, fwiw. Dr H, the odd bird who inserted himself, is guilty of supplying prescriptions for area residents.
For these reasons, SG isolates herself from the LISK. :thinking: :moo:
My humble thank you to everyone working toward solving these numerous murders. :websleuther:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/48-hours-uncovers-missing-escort-shannan-gilberts-final-minutes/