Atlantic City Eastbound Strangler 4 Women Found Dead behind Motel Egg Harbor Twp, Nov 2006

scandi said:
The Lineup had a great spot on this case tonight and I learned a few things

In the Christian, Islamic and Moslem faiths they traditionally bury their dead with faces to the east.

They don't think the no shoes or socks is involved in his reason for killing - Dern, I forgot the word she used. It began with an R. Anyway, they are still performig rape kit tests on these ladies, but they are badly decomposed having been killed over the last 2 months. So far there is no evidence of sexual involvement on his part, like cutting of breasts or her vaginal area as there often is she said.

They think he is creating his own burial ground out of a religious fantasy. Wild, isn't it? Positioning the heads and then with the feet, it could be a reverence of some sort as many religions take off their shoes before entering a place of worship.

Scandi

Hi scandi,

As you know I live in Middle East - I posted here earlier - and stopping short for fear of a racial debate, decided to contact this police dept right after that post - yes from out here! Asked no questions, simply provide insight into Muslim custom & burials to see if this might be worth looking into.

There's a reason the heads face east.

Also, Muslims bury the dead within 24 hours and usually close to one of the 5 prayer times throughout the day. They're also not "bound", per se - but wrapped in a humble shroud. Pics on TV covering the Iraq war, Lebanon crisis, Afghanistan, etc - show bodies wrapped, not bound, in these plain, bland, humble old cloths. The heads are turned to the east as they are laid on the ground, not before. Shoes come off before prayer, outside Mosques and bodies dont have them...

I mentioned gambling (Casinos), adultery & prostitution (plus drugs, alcohol) are strictly forbidden in (staunch) Islam. Some countries still give the death sentence for these offences. (Recall the plight of the Nigerian woman a few years ago that fell preg out of wedlock; sentenced to be stoned to death when her baby was weaned - well ... prime example).

The above background was well received.
 
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Atlantic City Serial Killer

(Partial Profile of "The Eastbound Strangler")



This lethal predator is a local male, who is very familiar with the Atlantic City area, and the disposal site of his victims. He has a very organized personality which influences his personal and everyday activities, including his work. He is very rigid and structured in his everyday life. "A place for everything and everything in its place" would be his motto. He has read (and reads) book on serial killers and he has some knowledge of crime scenes and crime investigations. He has an extreme foot fetish and has a collection of women's shoes and the shoes of his victims. He has not killed every prostitute he has come in contact with. There are prostitutes who know him for the sexual gratification he gets from their feet. He is nonsocial and likes to keep to himself. He is narcissistic (everything revolves around him), and he is also very concerned with making himself look good in all aspects. He is also extremely opinionated. If criticized or disagreed with, he would become extremely angry or agitated. Although at times, when he wants to, he can be very charming. In his pre-offense mode, he may have spoken about the sinful nature of prostitution, or he may have voiced economic concerns about prostitutes destroying Atlantic City's value or reputation. In his post-offense mode, he would says things like "They got what they deserved" or "Good riddance." He follows the news of his killings in the media. His hobbies would include art and photography, and his obsessive fantasies would compel him to search for sexually graphic and/or violent pictures in all media. He probably has a prior record of sexual or physical abuse or sexual harassment toward women. He may have recently suffered a setback in his work or in a relationship. This predator is probably detached from his father and was abused as a child. This person has also killed before these recent victims were found, and he will be compelled to continue his murderous ways in the future.


If you have any information, please call the Atlantic City Police Department at 609-926-4051.


Brian Thompson spoke with John Kelly of STALK, Inc which stands for Systems To Apprehend Lethal Killers. He said there are probably more victims out there already, and the killer is likely to try and strike again. Read his profile of the killer on his Web site, stalkinc.com.
 
One of the links about this story mentioned a woman who works at a nearby motel, and she said that there are lots of prostitutes in that area working and many are barefooted. I suppose this would only be in the warmer months, but the dad of one of the victims was interviewed on Katherine Krier Live today and said that as far as he knew his daughter was not a prostitute. She had attended culinary school and was working as a cook at a motel on the boardwalk.
 
http://www.nypost.com/seven/1126200...egionalnews_john_doyle_and_hasani_gittens.htm

At the motel, he paid her in phone cards, food and drugs.



She said he appeared to be in his late 40s, husky, about 5-foot-8 with a beer belly, dark hair, a baseball cap and "cheap, thick sunglasses." :cool:

I wonder if he didn't let them have their shoes so they couldn't run from him.

Hmmmm I find it interesting he paid in Phone cards.
As if he may not need them , I wonder why?
Why not just money. Unless he lost his job recently.
 
Hmmmmm, I was thinking he was a Moslem, but since they don't do drugs and he offered drugs to this Kim, that settles that, right?

I would think by now they have pinpointed him with all they know about him, and are watching him. If another girl is missing then maybe he has a new grounds for burying. I heard Pat Brown, profiler, say about the Baseline killer that because there was a gap in the killings in Pheonix she thought the killer had moved because of learning about the case in the media. This guy might have done the same and he might not have much money to work with.

Scandi
 
Heres some other cases

http://www.pacrimestoppers.org/unsolved/606.htm
The Pennsylvania State Police, Limerick, Montgomery County, are investigating the strangulation death of Caroline Ann Brader. On July 21, 1997, at approximately 2:30 p.m. her nude body was found laying along the eastbound berm of the Pennsylvania Turnpike, approximately 2.5 miles west of WilVictim # 1:
Name: Tammie Kristine Mullins
White / Female
DOB: 10/06/68
Height: 5'2" Victim # 2:
Name: Mandy Sue Mclaren
White / Female
DOB: 05/02/81
Height: 5'2"


The Pennsylvania State Police, Troop D, New Castle are currently investigating the homicides of two adult females.

On Wednesday, August 31, 2005 the women were found near a gravel, unnamed lane leading to a wooded area off Route 168, Taylor Township, Lawrence County, Pennsylvania. The lane is located approximately 3/4 of a mile south of East Cherry Street. The bodies of the women were found approximately 60' apart on separate sides of the lane.

At apx. 11:20 a.m. on August 31, 2005, Tammie Mullins' body was discovered by a person searching for scrap along the lane. The body was in a severe state of decomposition. The date of death has been established between 2 - 4 weeks prior to the discovery. Mullins was reported missing to the New Castle City Police Department on August 5th, 2005 by her husband, although he reports having no contact with her since July 23, 2005.

Mandy Sue Mclaren's body was discovered at apx. 11:50 a.m. on August 31, 2005 by officers searching the area after the discovery of Mullins' body. Ms. Mclaren's death is estimated to be between 3 - 5 days prior to her discovery. Mandy Mclaren had not been reported missing.

Both victims were reported to engage in prostitution.
low Grove Exit in Upper Dublin Township, Montgomery County, PA. Authorities state that Brader was a known prostitute and drug user. She was last seen in the vicinity of eighth and Chew Streets in Allentown, PA., on July 20, 1997, at approximately 11:50 p.m., possibly getting into a white van.

http://www.pacrimestoppers.org/unsolved/570.htm

Date of Release: January 27, 1997

Fugitive Number # 570

Case Facts:
The Pennsylvania State Police Hazleton, are investigating the suspicious death of an unidentified white female discovered in Sugarloaf Township, Luzeme County on December 20, 1994. Her fully skeletonized remains were discovered on a steep embankment overlooking a water filled strip mine. This area of Sugarloaf Township is wooded and located approximately two miles from the West Hazleton exit, which is exit #14, of Interstate 81. Based on forensic examination, the body was probably at that location from six months to two years, most likely closer to eighteen months.

The victim was described as a white female and is believed to have between 34 and 47 year old. She stood between 5 feet, 1 inch and 5 feet, 4 inches tall with a medium build. The examination revealed that she was missing ten teeth prior to her death.
http://www.pacrimestoppers.org/unsolved/696.htm

Homicide Victim -
Peggy Sue Hogue Crime: Homicide Investigation

Date of Release: June 7, 1999




The Pennsylvania State Police, New Castle, continues their investigation into the 1983 Homicide of Peggy Sue Hogue. The case remains unsolved, and investigators feel that additional or updated information will increase their chances of apprehending the person or persons responsible for her death.

Authorities state that on the morning of June 12, 1983, the body of 24-year-old Peggy Sue Hogue was found in a ravine just off of River Road, Perry Township, Lawrence County. The autopsy revealed that she died as a result of blunt force trauma to the head and neck, and had what appeared to be choke marks on her throat.

The investigation revealed that Hogue had been at the Parkgate Bar in Ellwood City during the early morning hours of June13, 1983. She was last seen alive at approximately 5:00 a.m., hitchhiking along Lawrence Avenue, just outside of Ellwood City in Lawrence County, Pennsylvania.

http://www.pacrimestoppers.org/fugitive/1030.htm
 
http://www.pacrimestoppers.org/fugitive/799.htm
The Pennsylvania State Police at Media, Delaware County Pennsylvania continue their investigation into the 1991 Homicide of Denise Sharon Kulb.

On the afternoon of November 12, 1991, a resident of Birmingham, an area now known as Chadds Ford Township in Delaware County, was walking along the tree-line of a wooded area west of Harvey Road. The resident observed an object under the foliage, and upon closer examination, discovered what appeared to be the partially decomposed remains of a human body.

The victim was later identified as a Denise Sharon Kulb; she was 27-years old at the time of her death. Kulb was a White female, who stood between 5'4"-5'7" and had long brown hair. She was wearing a gray sweater, yellow sweatpants, red tee shirt and a white jacket. A friend and Kulb's sister last saw her alive the weekend of October 18, 1991. She was known to frequent the Kensington Avenue and Front Street section of Philadelphia and may have traveled to Delaware County on occasions prior to her death, either in the company of, or to meet an unidentified White male.

The last known address of Denise Sharon Kulb was in the 2200 block of Amber Street in Philadelphia, Philadelphia County Pennsylvania
 
Ihadcabinfever, I found some of those cases myself on a google search and there are definite similarities to these victims in NJ as well as the ones in Md. I chose Pa. as a possibility because of the route 40 and interstate 95 connection. There could be more than one serial killer operating in close proximity but I think it's most likely one who moves around.

You made another point about the next victim being a high school student and I've been thinking about that too. The ctv crime library has a story about a serial killer who did just that. He started out attacking prostitutes so nobody cared and then LE was getting close so he moved location and victim type. I have to wonder if that report is trying to make these women more human and worthy or the opposite by essentially hinting that because of their problems that's why it happened in the first place.
 
I wonder if the girls in atlantic city had been paid with a phone card?
Meaning was there any in their purse or pockets.
I also wonder if they were all the same shoe size????

Interesting these girls were warned about not getting into any SUV. I wonder if they mentioned a certain color?

Also they mentioned a black cap with gold emblem or insignia.

Steelers?

Nah thats not what I am thinking.
 
This guy is scary. I wonder if he already ditched the car? I wonder if he moved on? I wonder if this is the guy that was hanging in Daytona murdering?
What kind of phone cards? Where were they purchased? Where in the devil are the shoes? The only reason you would take off your shoes is to get in bed or walk the beach.
 
Or maybe go into a temple or synagog - a place of worship.

Scandi
 
ihadcabinfever said:
I wonder if the girls in atlantic city had been paid with a phone card?
Meaning was there any in their purse or pockets.
I also wonder if they were all the same shoe size????

Interesting these girls were warned about not getting into any SUV. I wonder if they mentioned a certain color?

Also they mentioned a black cap with gold emblem or insignia.

Steelers?

Nah thats not what I am thinking.


Are you thinking LE Cabinfever? Scandi
 
strach304 said:
No I didn't see that lilsister, did you? TV, newspaper?

I think if what the prostitute said about the hugging guy being a possibility then I'm more inclined to think the barefeet are more indicative of someone with a foot fetish. I'd bet he's known to many but moves around.
http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/states/pennsylvania/counties/philadelphia_county/philadelphia/16126874.htm


Philly has an attacker running around in one instance he had the woman take her boots of so he could suck her toes! gross!

I can't find the link to that womans story, I'm sure channel 6 or 10 ran it as a video.
It isn't being said if he has done this to all the victims, only this one woman appeared in an off camera interview a few days ago and told her story. She wasn't raped per say just felt up and kissed by the perp.

Center city is a train or bus ride away from AC.

I worked in AC for 6 years in the early 90's in a furniture store, AC is a small town. I knew so many people in town, everybody knows each other in the inner city section.
If this guy is releated to the AC murders, he wouldn't do his robbing in Atlantic City.

I think this guy's timing for starting the Philly attacks started right after the bodies were found in AC I wonder if they aren't the same guy..:waitasec:
 
strach304 said:
Ihadcabinfever, I found some of those cases myself on a google search and there are definite similarities to these victims in NJ as well as the ones in Md. I chose Pa. as a possibility because of the route 40 and interstate 95 connection. There could be more than one serial killer operating in close proximity but I think it's most likely one who moves around.

You made another point about the next victim being a high school student and I've been thinking about that too. The ctv crime library has a story about a serial killer who did just that. He started out attacking prostitutes so nobody cared and then LE was getting close so he moved location and victim type. I have to wonder if that report is trying to make these women more human and worthy or the opposite by essentially hinting that because of their problems that's why it happened in the first place.

Probably in northern NJ too.
 
scandi said:
Are you thinking LE Cabinfever? Scandi


Holy crap I missed that !!!!! LOLOL NO NO NO !!!!

I have someone else in mind . Trucker perhaps.

By the looks of that profile I'd bet on it. And I never bet,I don't even play cards. Never liked it.
 
http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17529446&BRD=1697&PAG=461&dept_id=44551&rfi=6

The site is just being opened across a wide expanse of fields and forests. Workers were about to operate a front-end loader, a bulldozer, and two huge dump trucks yesterday before the gruesome discovery halted work for the day.

well forget this one

http://www.nj.com/news/times/index.ssf?/base/news-2/1164864364227190.xml&coll=5
Trenton woman linked to gang found slain at construction site

HAMILTON -- The bullet-riddled body of a young Trenton woman -- who law enforcement sources said was a girlfriend of a Bloods gang member murdered in 2005 -- was found yesterday morning in a future luxury housing development off of Old York Road.
 
Beyond Belief said:
This guy is scary. I wonder if he already ditched the car? I wonder if he moved on? I wonder if this is the guy that was hanging in Daytona murdering?
What kind of phone cards? Where were they purchased? Where in the devil are the shoes? The only reason you would take off your shoes is to get in bed or walk the beach.

What kind of phone cards? Phone calling cards. I think you can buy them at the gas station or deli.Walmart.
The shoes are probably in his closet. Maybe he wears them . Hes crazy anyway you look at this.
Sniveling for a hug?
 
http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cach...girl+Perth+Amboy+nj&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=11

Look at this poor baby 14 years old.

ROSELLE – A 14-year-old was found dead in a park more than 10 days after her mother reported her missing. Now her family must deal with her mysterious death.

The victim, 14-year-old Judy Cajuste, was a freshman at Abraham Park High School and her death could serve as a cautionary tale for other parents: Police are investigating the possibility that she met her killer online.

The girl’s body was found in Weequahic Park in Newark. Preliminary autopsy results reveal the cause of death to be strangulation, and police consider this a homicide.
 

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