Australia Claremont Serial Killer, 1996-1997, Perth, Western Australia - #8 ARREST*

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No doubt, taxi drivers were the prime suspects at the time, he may even have said, look you need to get off the road its not safe out here with these rogue taxis.
I suspect he was reasonably passive and if the girls said no he played it very cool to not cause them to approach authorities about the encounter, but I have little doubt some girls have been approached by this guy and told him no and he has said ok no worries.

Once they are in the car its game over. I suspect the cemetery assault recount is vital to fill in the blanks of what probably happened.
Seems most likely to me.
Though amazed no one else came forward with similar tales. He probably seemed to just be trying to help so they dismissed it.
Maybe now someone will recognise him as offering them a lift. I doubt he had 100% success in getting everyone he tried too in his car unless he was impersonating a taxi driver

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Yeah well she did. It's in her book just after the body of Jane was found <modsnip>


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Completely plausible that due to the state of the bodies there is no evidence to indicate a sexual assault on CG and JR but only a foolish person would in that instance state outright that sexual assault did not occur.
 
If he has a gun or a knife she does not lean into the window and have a discussion, she either instantly follows his orders or runs/screams

It's more likely he said I am headed to perhaps the cottesloe exchange to fix some phone lines, emergency call-out, I can give you a lift. Cottesloe borders mosman park for a long distance, its a very plausible reasoning.

The thing is.... I am assuming had he gone with the soft approach he MUST have tried this on others girls that said no thanks and then he would drive off.

Agree with you Joe. Use of Telstra veh, maybe a uniform and/or other work paraphernalia to establish trust and convince girls to willingly get in the car seems a sound theory. Much safer MO than blitzing or threatening with weapon on or near major roads.

This may lead perp to consider other work assets in the area he could exploit which is why I think the Nedlands and especially Cottesloe Telstra exchanges are worthy of consideration. The "lift home" feint is only good for as long as you are heading in the right direction. Coercing a coherent, non-compliant person whilst driving in such a built up area would be difficult, as evidenced by the lady who broke her leg in the attempted abduction in 1995 (?). If karrakatta cemetery is the same perp, he would have learnt the benefit of an enclosed, controlled location.

Hence I lean towards the soft capture, nearby controlled rape/kill/body prep site and "random" remote dump site. I think any telco infrastructure in vicinity of the dump sites is coincidental. Perp may have become aware of them through work, but that's as far as I believe it would have gone. Remote south then north sites are more likely a consequence of JR being found and an attempt to appear random. SS could be anywhere. I think the "cardinal points" theories are both giving the perp too much credit (he appears driven by sex, not the killing, serial killer mystique or publicity) and not specific enough to have warranted pursuing.
 
Completely plausible that due to the state of the bodies there is no evidence to indicate a sexual assault on CG and JR but only a foolish person would in that instance state outright that sexual assault did not occur.

Well it's written within the book. I agree but wonder if he stated same to give some form of comfort to the Rimmers?


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Seems most likely to me.
Though amazed no one else came forward with similar tales. He probably seemed to just be trying to help so they dismissed it.
Maybe now someone will recognise him as offering them a lift. I doubt he had 100% success in getting everyone he tried too in his car unless he was impersonating a taxi driver

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I suspect they did come forward but again caporn had his man in LW and the obsession with providing the public with as little information as possible in this case would have meant that no sketch of the man is released as firstly they would have been inundated with calls they simply couldn't handle and chasing a man that has essentially done nothing wrong.
 
Could or actually do? I'm talking ordering correctly specced parts, installing RAM, setting up hard drives, without any formal instruction. Yes I build my own machines so it's simple to me but this guy is not from a generation that grew up with this.
I am talking sub 100 IQ people building gaming machines.
I suspect he is above 100 maybe 110, nothing to indicate that its higher than 110.

I look at the home made starter air horn?? they use at the LAC on the trolley, are we to assume he constructed this? It looks very homemade.

One could assume he might like to tinker with stuff a bit seeing cars always seem to be parked outside of the shed. Its either full of junk or he's a bit of a handyman


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Agree with you Joe. Use of Telstra veh, maybe a uniform and/or other work paraphernalia to establish trust and convince girls to willingly get in the car seems a sound theory. Much safer MO than blitzing or threatening with weapon on or near major roads.

This may lead perp to consider other work assets in the area he could exploit which is why I think the Nedlands and especially Cottesloe Telstra exchanges are worthy of consideration. The "lift home" feint is only good for as long as you are heading in the right direction. Coercing a coherent, non-compliant person whilst driving in such a built up area would be difficult, as evidenced by the lady who broke her leg in the attempted abduction in 1995 (?). If karrakatta cemetery is the same perp, he would have learnt the benefit of an enclosed, controlled location.

Hence I lean towards the soft capture, nearby controlled rape/kill/body prep site and "random" remote dump site. I think any telco infrastructure in vicinity of the dump sites is coincidental. Perp may have become aware of them through work, but that's as far as I believe it would have gone. Remote south then north sites are more likely a consequence of JR being found and an attempt to appear random. SS could be anywhere. I think the "cardinal points" theories are both giving the perp too much credit (he appears driven by sex, not the killing, serial killer mystique or publicity) and not specific enough to have warranted pursuing.

Exactly, he really needs to be heading in the same direction they are going in to appear non-threatening.

My theory with SS is that he went over the top to hide her, buried her deep in a very remote location.
When she did not get discovered he became more confident and pushed the envelope further with more simple dumps.
 
So back to the kimono - I went and got the paper out of the bin and used a magnifying glass to read the newspaper cutting in this picture
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The text says :
"The West Australian, Perth Wednesday Feruary 17 1988
Kimono clue to a brutal killing
by Cyril Ayris
This kimono may be the clue that helps
solve the brutal killing of Victoria Heather
Clark, 30, in Victoria Park last September.
It was dropped by a man that walked
into a Huntingdale house early on Monday
morning and lay on top of a sleeping
18-year-old girl...
The kimono is the first good clue the police
have been given in recent sex attacks in the area.
Det-Sgt Max Kiernan said the man
apparently walked into the house..."

I still don't see what the link is??
 

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Well it's written within the book. I agree but wonder if he stated same to give some form of comfort to the Rimmers?


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Well technically it is correct if the bodies are actively decomposed there may be no hard evidence to indicate an assault occurred, but what perhaps they did not say is that there is no indication to say an assault did not happen.
Based on his MO it is highly likely he at the very least attempted assault on all his victims.
 
Did she actually say they weren't sexually assaulted or that there was no evidence of sexual assault?
Because the latter I understand. The former I doubt could be proven for fact considering some time had passed before they were found.

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So Victoria Heather Clark (30), from Victoria Park may have been the cold case that triggered all of this.

It appears some seem to think a David Troy Masters committed that crime.
 
Stirling highway is/was reasonably well lit, I think he got the girls to hop in, it would be fascinating to know how he picked up the girl on gugeri street, keep in mind JR may also have been taken on gugeri, gugeri has much less lighting and traffic, it's literally at absolute most 2 mins from karrakata cemetery

Yes Stirling Hwy was well lit but if you look at the adjoining businesses on the river side of the highway most of the car parks are not well lit and have access to lane ways and back streets. Some of the car parks are sunken below the level of Stirling Hwy and what is a 3ft hedge beside the path running along the highway becomes a 6-8 foot wall standing in the unlit car park. plenty of opportunity to attack out of sight of the public. Also particularly with SS Stirling Highway at that time had very little in the way of through traffic or people walking beyond the entertainment area of Claremont so ample opportunity to time when to strike.

My thoughts and purely based on the landscape of the day would be a blitz attack. Especially given the Karakatta attack experience. His size would make it easy for him to incapacitate a smaller victim. Given they were potentially tipsy (Slower Reflexes) at the time make them an even easier prospect. With this new information about the kimono and KC attack. He seems to be a person who would lack the social skills to entice a victim into his vehicle which is perhaps a part of his conditioning to escalate from his sexual assaults to the killings.
 
http://www.blac.asn.au/add_files/club_portal/reports/report2009.pdf

I will have a go at analysing his president's report of 2009.

His style is more theatrical and elaborate than necessary and somewhat smarmy.

He mentions that another club gave him an award so he is not shy at self aggrandisement. He uses the word "I" freely at the beginning and end as though his main interest is in securing his personal standing.

He praises adult officials in a qualified way. For instance he wrote:

" Caroline quickly found her niche "

,which could imply he tried to keep her efforts confined to a narrow interest.

"
Indeed we all owe her our gratitude for stepping up to fill a position which has seen her away from her own children all season "

,which could be an attempt for cause her (Caroline) to vacate her "niche" and return to her children because she showed signs of expanding her role at the club. This is consistent with him having few helpers during the course of the season.

He stated:

"
our dedicated Short Track Timekeepers"

without mentioning names, which could imply that some were dedicated and some were not.

he then stated of the same timekeepers that:

"
The improvement in the time taken to run each event was not obvious at first, but as the season went on and the process was refined the programs did move through faster"

,which means that the "dedicated timekeepers" were slow to catch on, that he monitors the ability of acquaintances to become aware and that he is wary of people with the ability think critically.

He stated that new equipment allowed the club to operate:


"without the need for two video cameras and a team of judges"




,which again shows a desire to dispense with people from club management.

He stated:

"
I thank Christine Christie and Noreen Boyd"

,and proceeded to offer fullsome praise of Christine while ignoring Noreen, which implies he much prefers one to the other. He said of Christine:

"w
hen confronted with an obstacle, (she) develop(s) a solution just as quickly"

,which could imply that he, the President, was the obstacle and Christine was easily deflected.

I find this next extract very pertinent:


"In the first half of the season I was so busy on competition days that I rarely had the opportunityto get out and meet the athletes and parents, but as the season went on and the issues were resolved, I found time to sit back and watch the Belmont athletes compete and socialise."

,so having stated his intent to "meet the athletes and parents", he "found time to (only) sit back and watch" so again he kept away from adult inquiry.

His most freely written paragraph which is absent of the controls and qualifiers he uses elsewhere is in regard to the "tiny tots" fun day. Tiny tots have no capacity to inquire his inner thoughts.

His description of the Under 17's athletes as:

"
charasmatic"

, shows an interest in them beyond their mere running abilities. It is himself projecting onto their personalities. He then stated of them that:

"
you have all performed to the best of your abilities and demonstrated to each and every parent that within each of you there is the potential to be whatever your heart desires"

, which could imply they have no room for improvement and they should follow their "heart(s)", not necessarily confined to athletic pursuits.

He concludes by lamenting the impending resignation of fellow committee members which is probably the result of his management style.





















 
Well it's written within the book. I agree but wonder if he stated same to give some form of comfort to the Rimmers?


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The book says there "was definitely no mutilation, dismemberment"

It doesn't say there was definitely no sexual assault, only that there did not appear to be, "as far as they can tell".
 
So Victoria Heather Clark (30), from Victoria Park may have been the cold case that triggered all of this.

It appears some seem to think a David Troy Masters committed that crime.

Yes seems an incredible coincidence that BE would steal a kimono off her line while she is being killed by someone else?? And if it wasn't her kimono then what's the link?
 
I just asked my father about Telstra in the 90's and he said that exchanges, even the small, suburban ones were only accessible to staff who worked there. Most exchanges only had a few staff. Most technicians never went to an exchange - they received their jobs via a remote office.

For those few staff authorised to access an exchange, access was via keypad and all entrances were logged electronically at a central base. I didn't get to ask whether there were cameras installed at these exchanges as Mum didn't want talk of such dark things on Christmas Day but I would doubt there were cameras in those days.

To tap a phone from the street one would need to access a pillar (not a pit) and know which two cables to locate. This would take knowledge and time as there are many cables in a phone pillar.

Dad was scathing of the idea that BE might have tapped a 'phone box. He doesn't believe the young techs were well trained enough by the 80's and '90's to know which pair of cables to locate. By the 90's Telstra was being privatised and training was going by the wayside, in his view.

Not many Telstra techs worked at night, not even in the telephone exchanges which were all automatic by then and in my youth (70's and 80's) I don't believe my father ever did night shifts. He did work in exchanges as he was a Supervising Technical Officer.

As an adult, I've only ever seen Telstra techs on the street working in the daylight hours.

Dad tends to think the CSK used quiet, open areas like the Karrakatta Cemetary to do his nasty deeds in and I tend to agree.

I think CSK was responsible for the abandoned Lakeway Drive-In attack (even though it was not reported to police, I have no reason to doubt it occured).

There were so many quiet, dark, remote spaces out that way that he could have taken his victims to...Karrakatta Cemetary, Lakeway Drive-in, the Fremantle wharf area (massive car-parks around there)...beach sand dunes.

Make of this info what you will. Just my opinion, as always.

Yeah I don't think he would have tapped a phone box.
I haven't heard about the Lakeway Drive-In attack, do you have a link or more information you can PM me?
 
Yes seems an incredible coincidence that BE would steal a kimono off her line while she is being killed by someone else?? And if it wasn't her kimono then what's the link?
I'm really curious about the other peoples clothes found with Claremont victims.
Were they off other victims of his also?? Sure seems to be headed that way.
Maybe he covered his face with them..or maybe he left them as smart *advertiser censored* clues about the others for police

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<modsnip> I'll state the page and paragraph when I'm home!


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