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reb said:well, we went to several different churches as my dad was a minister (methodist) & he got moved around a lot. but yes i do know that all religions, all sects within religions, and all churches within sects within religions are different... but these days i prefer to just stay out of it all, and try to be a decent person with good morals without being involved in any of that mess!
however, i do appreciate that the church experience may be a good one for some people,, i just don't appreciate it when they try to force it upon others, or think non-religious people are evil, lost, or think that you can't be a decent person with good morals unless you are in their religion/church, etc....! that just ain't right!!
so many religious folks will say "only god can judge" but then they turn around and judge you, and it seems like they are getting worse.
Ella said:Reb,
I really don't know about heterosexuals who prefer anal sex. I would consider that perversion and like I said I would prefer people keep that kind of thing private. I really did not try to single out homosexuals. I am sorry if you took offense. If you don't mind me asking...are you gay? And if I have not offended and you wish to answer, were you ever sexually molested as a child? The reason I ask, is that I have never met a homosexual who was not sexually abused as a child. Never. My heart breaks for the homosexual. My heart breaks for the girls who strip and prostitute..because I find the same thing. Adults who were abused as children. And no one should judge...because they were not required to walk in those shoes. God Bless.
Nova said:Ella, I am a gay male. I was never molested as a child. Nor was my partner of almost 29 years. Nor was my gay brother.
Of course, I haven't polled every gay man I know, but I can't think of a one who ever mentioned being abused as a child.
I promise you your notion of molestation as a universal gay experience is simply incorrect.
I don't know about prostitutes.
As for your pseudo-scientific evidence on the supposed dangers of gay sex, your sources neglect to mention (a) that many, even most of the same dangers also attend to vaginal intercourse (if you think fecal bacteria is found only in the anus, I have some bad news for you); and (b) that many of the dangers listed stem from having many partners, which ought to be an argument FOR gay marriage, not against.
Thanks, Nova, Mindi, Mr E, IrishMist,Mr. E said:I just wanted to point out, and I think someone else may have already done this, that anal sex isn't an exclusively homosexual act.
I actually have a lot of gay friends (no stripper or prostitute friends, so I couldn't on that). I guess it's a stereotype, but my husband and children and I are very involved in the theater, so . . . Anyway, I've never had any of my gay friends tell me they were molested and that's why they were gay. I have had some of them tell me they knew they were gay when they were children.
On the other hand, being molested as a child is a very personal bit of information, isn't it? Not something said casually at a cast party. You'd have to be a very open person or a counselor or something to have every gay person you've known tell you something so deeply private.
mindi77 said:I have to agree with you on that, well except for being a gay male...I'm female. I have to say that one of my best friends was a stripper for 10 years and she was never molested, her parents are still married and she and her dad have a great relationship. I was molested and I am neither gay, or a stripper or a prostitute. Do I think that alot of strippers and prostitutes have been molested sure some have just like alot of people who don't go into those type of buisnesses. I believe people are born gay and that they wouldn't just choose to do it to make people mad, or to have there family not want anything to do with them.
I don't think it is my buisness to say who does or doesn't get married....straight or gay. It doesn't have anything to do with me, it is there lives.
Sorry....didn't mean to post a book...lol
Mr. E said:I just wanted to point out, and I think someone else may have already done this, that anal sex isn't an exclusively homosexual act.
I actually have a lot of gay friends (no stripper or prostitute friends, so I couldn't on that). I guess it's a stereotype, but my husband and children and I are very involved in the theater, so . . . Anyway, I've never had any of my gay friends tell me they were molested and that's why they were gay. I have had some of them tell me they knew they were gay when they were children.
On the other hand, being molested as a child is a very personal bit of information, isn't it? Not something said casually at a cast party. You'd have to be a very open person or a counselor or something to have every gay person you've known tell you something so deeply private.
What, you guys aren't doing the "sign up today and get a free toaster" campaign anymore??Nova said:So far, no reports of violence, religious terrorism or people turned gay against their will.
reb said:<So far, no reports of violence, religious terrorism or people turned gay against their will>
:laugh::laugh::laugh:!!!!
btw, where is PS??
IrishMist said:What, you guys aren't doing the "sign up today and get a free toaster" campaign anymore??