Brianna Denison 19yo Reno NV #8

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They came from where Bri was abducted.

Nevermind, I see beat me to it. Thanks.

NW, SS:). So the suspected killer somehow had one of the permanent female residents' underwear in his possession prior to dumping them where he dumped Brianna. I do wonder if he has a lingerie' fetish, and I wonder when he obtained them.

Lion
 
I'm still the same guy - just mind the TOS and we'll all get along. :blowkiss:

I know you are the same guy, :). I'm glad you are a mod because I admire your level headedness, your thinking, and your sense of balance. A few weeks ago when chico suggested that you apply I was really hoping that you would. This is a wonderful place to belong to, and I think that it is due in part to the outstanding mods who keep things on track here. A bit late but congrats to you!

And, I was kidding about watching my tongue. I have too much respect for myself and for the great posters here to say anything out of line.

Sorry about the OT, and back to Brianna. Interesting that the perp had a pair of underwear that belonged to a permanent roommate of the home where Brianna was abducted from. I wonder when and how he obtained them. He is one twisted perp perhaps with an underwear fetish.

Weeks ago I thought that even if he hadn't sexually assaulted and murdered prior to a few months ago he might have been expressing some other sexual deviancy like peeping. From all that I've researched, a number of serial rapists/sexual serial killers begin their, "careers" with voyeurism, exhibitionism, or acting out on fetishes(i.e stealing lingerie). I wonder if LE has researched misdemeanor sex crimes going back at least 5 years to see if there are any perps convicted of stealing women's clothing.

Lion
 
Creepy to think he may have been in the apartment BEFORE the girls went out that night.....but then again, that would explain a lot. We are approaching the middle of this month, and I guess I will always get nervous about that until he is arrested. Please stay safe anyone who is in Reno.
 
But if he has been convicted already, wouldn't his DNA be in the data bank?

i wondered the same thing....i now see Rusty's response..makes sense....
i don't think it's the freak though....when i looked at the picture yesterday, it seems his face is too round...course he may have lost some weight in his face, but.......
 
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How can you say this with such authority? Are you the PIO for the RPD? The fact is none of us have a clue about PD's motive regarding the media in this case. It does appear that they are employing unusual methods as far as the press release in concerned. But we can't even say for sure that the DNA "mixup" was intentional or not, let alone what the RPD's course of action is right now. Now before you go on some tirade about how it's "unintelligent" (your word) not to always question LE, lets just think about what we know as fact. Not speculation, hearsay, rumor, or assumptions.......but actual fact.

Thank you for being another voice of reason!
 
NW, SS:). So the suspected killer somehow had one of the permanent female residents' underwear in his possession prior to dumping them where he dumped Brianna. I do wonder if he has a lingerie' fetish, and I wonder when he obtained them.

Lion

Lion, a sex offender having an underware fetish is surely reasonable.

If you think about this perp and underwear though, I think it is 50/50 that he has such a fetish.

It is not surprising that underwear was missing from a rape victim. It is not surprising that underwear was found with Brianna's body. It is surprising that another pair of underwear, without the perp's or Brianna's DNA on them, was found with Brianna's body.

To me, the PP thong is a piece that doesn't fit well in this scenario.
 
Address history for Nick/Nickolas Underwood:

2 addresses in Grass Valley, CA.
2 addresses in Nevada City, CA.
2 addresses in Cedar Ridge, CA.
1 address in Oxnard, CA.
6 addresses in Reno, Nevada
2 addresses in Sparks, Nevada
1 address is Las Vegas, Nevada

Has someone on websleuths made the info on this fellow known to the LE?
 
It's interesting how he's got addresses in both CA and NV. I wonder when he was in Oxnard? Looking at a map of the state it's not too far from Santa Barbara.

Oxnard is only about 30 miles from Santa Barbara.
 
i wondered the same thing....i now see Rusty's response..makes sense....
i don't think it's the freak though....when i looked at the picture yesterday, it seems his face is too round...course he may have lost some weight in his face, but.......

I would think the first thing LE would do is check the database of registered sex offenders and investigate each of them as a potential suspect in this case.
 
Real quick - I don't have a source at my fingertips - I recall an early announcement that they were investigating 150 or so sex offenders early on in the investigation.

This is the logical step to take, and it appears through the process of elimination, that the suspect is not among the registered sex offenders. He is someone outside that perimeter.

The address history I posted for Nick Underwood is the type of address history I would expect to see for the perp who murdered Brianna and attacked the other two women. I think he moves around a lot, perhaps due to his work. If he's in construction or some other outdoor line of work, he may move according to where the jobs are at that time. I'd expect to see the address history revolve around Nevada, California, and Arizona.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the suspect in Brianna's murder has moved out of the immediate area. He could be in Carson City, Tahoe, Truckee, or even as far west as Sacramento - two hours away, but I feel he's not within the city limits of Reno.
 
Yep - that's it. They were going to contact 1,700 offenders. So I was off by an order of magnitude. It was the incompetent cops that made me miscalculate!

Too funny!
 
This is the logical step to take, and it appears through the process of elimination, that the suspect is not among the registered sex offenders. He is someone outside that perimeter.

The address history I posted for Nick Underwood is the type of address history I would expect to see for the perp who murdered Brianna and attacked the other two women. I think he moves around a lot, perhaps due to his work. If he's in construction or some other outdoor line of work, he may move according to where the jobs are at that time. I'd expect to see the address history revolve around Nevada, California, and Arizona.

I wouldn't be surprised to learn that the suspect in Brianna's murder has moved out of the immediate area. He could be in Carson City, Tahoe, Truckee, or even as far west as Sacramento - two hours away, but I feel he's not within the city limits of Reno.

If true, what types of job could that be in Nevada?

Also, is it correct that the attacks were on weekends?
 
I keep leaning towards construction. There's a lot of building in Reno, Las Vegas, the Sacramento area - northeast of the city, and going south, through the San Joaquin Valley.......Modesto, Merced, etc. In Nevada, there's a lot of construction south of Las Vegas too. Bullhead City, Arizona, on the river and border with Nevada is also booming.

In the construction industry there's a lot of jobs within that field - carpentry, plumbing, electrician, masonry, roofing, etc. There's excavation involving backhoes, dump trucks, and other heavy duty equipment. He could work in any of these fields having to do with construction.

Aside from construction, he could work for a trash-hauler, or be an independent trucker, landscaper, or drive a cement truck for small cement jobs (outside of the construction industry). He could also be an independent trucker, delivering goods from point A to point B.
 
And if the October one was linked, it was on a Monday. It doesn't say a time here, but I believe it was around 5 p.m. on Oct. 22.

So, the night attacks could be as the perp is going to work and the morning ones could be as he's coming back. Maybe he works an 8 p.m. to 4 a.m. shift. Could be a casino worker, security guard, worker at a 24-hour gym, a convenience store clerk - lots of possibilities.
 
And if the October one was linked, it was on a Monday. It doesn't say a time here, but I believe it was around 5 p.m. on Oct. 22.

So, the night attacks could be as the perp is going to work and the morning ones could be as he's coming back. Maybe he works an 8 p.m. to 4 a.m. shift. Could be a casino worker, security guard, worker at a 24-hour gym, a convenience store clerk - lots of possibilities.
Sorry, I meant to post this link for my last post. http://news.rgj.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080220/NEWS01/80220046/0/NEWS18&theme=DENISON
 
I keep leaning towards construction. There's a lot of building in Reno, Las Vegas, the Sacramento area - northeast of the city, and going south, through the San Joaquin Valley.......Modesto, Merced, etc. In Nevada, there's a lot of construction south of Las Vegas too. Bullhead City, Arizona, on the river and border with Nevada is also booming.

In the construction industry there's a lot of jobs within that field - carpentry, plumbing, electrician, masonry, roofing, etc. There's excavation involving backhoes, dump trucks, and other heavy duty equipment. He could work in any of these fields having to do with construction.

Aside from construction, he could work for a trash-hauler, or be an independent trucker, landscaper, or drive a cement truck for small cement jobs (outside of the construction industry). He could also be an independent trucker, delivering goods from point A to point B.

I am still stuck as to how he could move away abruptly without suscpicion from his employer or coworkers.
 
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