C130 Military plane crash Miss 8 deaths reported

[rbarber17]

Of all the many agencies that could have been called in to help, why the Bureau of Narcotics? Maybe just has lots of manpower available in the northern part of the state...

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Regards,
Clouseau

 

[rbarber17]

Of all the many agencies that could have been called in to help, why the Bureau of Narcotics? Maybe just has lots of manpower available in the northern part of the state...

Unusual Help

Regards,
Clouseau

Mentioned this to a retired DEA, who had also served in the Korean War as a Navy corpsman. He said they carried packets of morphine syrettes for the wounded. Since there was a Navy corpsman on board, he suggested recovering them might be a reason for MBN's involvement.

Regards,
Rick B.

 

[Vail]

This story seems to have faded from MSM pretty fast other than stories about those who died. Do you think we will find out what happened here?

 

[PrairieWind]

I think we will know eventually, but airplane crash investigations in the US take a long time because the investigators are very thorough and they usually keep things pretty quiet until they are done. They will probably release an initial finding report in a month or so and then a final report perhaps in a year.

 

[Batman's Mommy]

Mentioned this to a retired DEA, who had also served in the Korean War as a Navy corpsman. He said they carried packets of morphine syrettes for the wounded. Since there was a Navy corpsman on board, he suggested recovering them might be a reason for MBN's involvement.

Regards,
Rick B.

Or possibly this..............

Participation in federal law enforcement task forces in order to ensure adequate and efficient use of agency resources.

https://www.dps.state.ms.us/crime-investigation/bureau-of-narcotics/#

Just a thought....

 

[rbarber17]

It would seem that investigators are concentrating on the aircraft itself, and not something inside (including pilot error) or outside of it (a drone or missile) during the high altitude event that resulted in the deaths of 15 Marines and a USN Corpsman in MS. So far, a total of (35) aircraft have been grounded by the military -- (12) KC-130T tanker-transports by the USMC, and (23) C-130T transports by the USN:

http://www.kgfw.com/national-news/2017/07/28/navy-grounds-23-aircraft-similar-to-one-involved-in-deadly-mississippi-crash

Regards,
Clouseau

 

[roadrunnermt]

It would seem that investigators are concentrating on the aircraft itself, and not something inside (including pilot error) or outside of it (a drone or missile) during the high altitude event that resulted in the deaths of 15 Marines and a USN Corpsman in MS. So far, a total of (35) aircraft have been grounded by the military -- (12) KC-130T tanker-transports by the USMC, and (23) C-130T transports by the USN:

http://www.kgfw.com/national-news/2017/07/28/navy-grounds-23-aircraft-similar-to-one-involved-in-deadly-mississippi-crash

Regards,
Clouseau

Thank you for this info!

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[Batman's Mommy]

My dad is a veteran of the Navy. He was a signalman on the USS Forrestal during the Vietnam war. A prolific reader, he always seems to be a source of knowledge for me. We happened to be traveling together in this area a few weeks ago, and started discussing this accident. One of the things he mentioned was that if the plane was at a very high altitude when something occurred, causing cabin depressurization, it would have been a matter of seconds before the men were unconscious. I hope he is right. I believe the cruising altitude for this plane was 39,000 feet(?).

He discussed what had happened in the crash where the golfer Payne Stewart died.

http://www.nytimes.com/1999/10/26/sports/golf-pro-golfer-and-5-others-die-in-a-baffling-jet-accident.html

 

[CARIIS]

Thank you for this info!

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From the beginning I am having trouble with something happening at altitude

This plane crashed practically intact which sounds much more like a stall than explosive deompression.

That high the debris field is far and wide the impact areas are more tangled metal

The first thing they do is called 4 point try to find the tip of nose the tip of each wingtip and the tip of the tail looking to see how intact it was upon impact

she was pretty intact--

 

[CARIIS]

Oh it had a 5 mile crash radious

I can be stubborn! Maybe cause it was militry and really strong (!) it held together and the debris was light stuff

Planes that blow up at 20,000 feet just dont typically come down in one giant piece

In Lockerbie they found stuff l(pillow napkins that kind of thing ) super far away.

I wonder if that is how they got the radious?

but that intact at impact ....................

here is new video from the crash site after it is all cleaned up

something is off

Why did they ground 12?

http://www.msnewsnow.com/story/3606...of-deadly-leflore-county-military-plane-crash

http://www.msnewsnow.com/story/3606...of-deadly-leflore-county-military-plane-crash

 

[CARIIS]

Oh 12 was all there were !!!!!!! Thats why!!!!!!!!!

 

[rbarber17]

Very interesting reading on this blog. Seems to be a lot of ex-military pilots sharing knowledge of past incidents. Sometimes difficult to follow with all the jargon used. See diagram at the top of page 4, several are suggesting a possible problem at a "butt joint" between the cockpit section and the rest of the fuselage. There were apparently two large chunks of wreckage miles apart which would correlate with such a failure location:

http://www.pprune.org/military-aviation/596901-usmc-kc-130-down-mississippi-4.html

Regards,
Clouseau

 

[rbarber17]

May take 12-18 months before report is public, with redactions:

http://www.wearethemighty.com/articles/there-are-still-no-answers-for-the-kc-130-crash-that-killed-16-marines

A few new facts and photos in this update.

Regards,
Clouseau