CA CA - Livermore, WhtFem Skeletal UP14953, 19-21, Apple Pie Images on Socks, Mar'78

[carbuff]

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

No exclusions listed. Wish they'd post some photos of the clothing or a reconstruction or something.

 

[cheemsg]

Some more information on this newspage (Article)

 

[Beccalicious]

Bumping

 

[heartanium]

Clipping the above newspaper article

March 3, 1978, The Oakland Tribune, pg 8

 

[heartanium]

So far the suggestions for this UP have been:

March 1977, St. Paul, MN - Michelle Elaine Meiser - MP20954


May 20, 1977, Berkley, CA - Lynn Ruth Connes - MP594


May 26, 1977, Cornelius, OR on route to CA - Karen Jean Lee - MP12090


July 1, 1977, Oakland, CA - Rose Cole - MP5959


Still no rule out's

 

[heartanium]

"Light blue denim pants with quilting around the hips and from knees down. Pants had zipper front with metal button, 2 small front pockets, and no rear pockets. Brand name "On Time" by "Prime Time". Waist 29, Inseam 35.5, "Made in British Colony Hong Kong, 100% Cotton RN4550"

Looks like "On Time" by "Prime Time" was a brand of Men's jeans that were sold by JC Penny, J.W Robinsons (defunct as of 1993), and Grodins (defunct as of 1993). The main place they were advertised was Southern California, but they were available in the Bay Area. The price of the Jeans were originally $18-23, which would be about $100 ish in modern day standards. My guess is that she got the jeans second hand then altered them.

Both ad's from the LA Times




Clipped from the Oakland Tribune, gives us a nice idea of what the profile of the jeans would look like.

 

[heartanium]

Oct 22, 1978, The Tribune, pg 19



"A large hole with damage that was caused by a .357 caliber magnum slug traversed her skull from right to left. A towel was cinched around her neck, indicating she was also strangled...the angle of the bullet trajectory indicate she had been shot sitting up"

"Pathologists estimate she died three months earlier"

"Examination of her leg bones, jaw structure, and high cheek bones and the depth and texture of her skin proved she [may have been] a mix of Caucasian and Indian [Indigenous]"

 

[heartanium]

Some other possibilities:

Julie Elizabeth Soracco - MP51384
DLC unknown, sometime in 1977 or 1978 in Placerville, CA

Evangeline Rodriguez Silva - MP12864
July 16, 1977, Oakley, CA

Cindy Irene King - MP6263
July 19, 1977, Grant Pass, OR

Sherry Elizabeth Roach - MP6579
June 8, 1976 - San Mateo, CA

Eileen Francis Hynson - MP14520
June 1, 1976 - Napa, CA

Paula Ann Pope and Peggy Ann Reed also came to mind, but their cases are a bit older, so I am doubtful this could be them.

 

[HopeRains]

Livermore, CA in dotted-red area.

 

[Bit of hope]

Oct 22, 1978, The Tribune, pg 19
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"A large hole with damage that was caused by a .357 caliber magnum slug traversed her skull from right to left. A towel was cinched around her neck, indicating she was also strangled...the angle of the bullet trajectory indicate she had been shot sitting up"

"Pathologists estimate she died three months earlier"

"Examination of her leg bones, jaw structure, and high cheek bones and the depth and texture of her skin proved she [may have been] a mix of Caucasian and Indian [Indigenous]"

Great info. Thank you!

 

[Auntie Cipation]

"Light blue denim pants with quilting around the hips and from knees down. Pants had zipper front with metal button, 2 small front pockets, and no rear pockets. Brand name "On Time" by "Prime Time". Waist 29, Inseam 35.5, "Made in British Colony Hong Kong, 100% Cotton RN4550"

Looks like "On Time" by "Prime Time" was a brand of Men's jeans that were sold by JC Penny, J.W Robinsons (defunct as of 1993), and Grodins (defunct as of 1993). The main place they were advertised was Southern California, but they were available in the Bay Area. The price of the Jeans were originally $18-23, which would be about $100 ish in modern day standards. My guess is that she got the jeans second hand then altered them.

Both ad's from the LA Times
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Clipped from the Oakland Tribune, gives us a nice idea of what the profile of the jeans would look like.
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Except no rear pockets. I recall that some popular jeans of that era didn't have rear pockets by design, but seeing these images with distinctive pockets makes me wonder whether the pockets had originally been there but then removed?

 

[heartanium]

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Except no rear pockets. I recall that some popular jeans of that era didn't have rear pockets by design, but seeing these images with distinctive pockets makes me wonder whether the pockets had originally been there but then removed?

It seems like she may have removed the pockets, the article from the Oakland Tribune above mentions that their was quilting on the jeans around the calves and hips, so she may have replaced the pocket with quilting. The jeans also had a zipper on them at the bottom. Sounds very DIY to me.

 

[Beccalicious]

Bumping

 

[theshadow45]

As of yesterday, Livermore Jane Doe has been unidentified for 46 years.

 

[carbuff]

One exclusion:

MP3879 Kimberly Stewart 05/24/1977 Placer CA

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