Identified! CA - Mendocino Co, 2 WhtFem Teens, Jul'79 *Francine Trimble & Kerry Graham*

[DrDMike]

Could one of them possibly be Robyn Ann Pettinato, missing from MT in 1975? Her CP page says her hair was shoulder-length at the time of her disappearance. Height is off but she would have grown in height since 1975. Her height is listed, in 1975, at 60 inches. I can see a facial resemblance , especially with the nose shape and defined cheekbones, between Robyn and "Earring Girl" JD. Robyn's link is here: http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/p/pettinato_robyn.html

I don't know. Robyn has DNA and dental in the system already. I think we should be looking for someone who doesn't have any marker in the system and/or has not been reported missing.

 

[Roselvr]

I don't know. Robyn has DNA and dental in the system already. I think we should be looking for someone who doesn't have any marker in the system and/or has not been reported missing.

Can not assume they both have DNA in the same system. If both were in the system, NamUs does not auto match; it turns in suggestions that have to be looked at. Any potential matches need to be turned in.

 

[PricklyPear]

Do you think they could be Rebecca Rodriguez and Evangeline Silva? The height for both is a little off, and they disappeared about six months before the estimated date of death, but they're the right ages, missing from Contra Costa County which is not all that far from Mendocino, and check out the facial reconstruction of one of the Does against the photo of Rebecca Rodriguez:
https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/12861/8/
https://identifyus.org/en/cases/10447

 

[PricklyPear]

I think I'm going to go ahead and call it in. I was hoping to track down a photo of Evangeline Silva first, but there don't seem to be any.

 

[Migmuu]

Is there any possibility the postmortem interval is way off? Because 16-year-old Deborah Tomlinson ran away with a female teenaged friend in May 1973. Both were from Oregon and their city is about 428 miles from Willits, CA.

Deborah would fit the age range, height, hair color, and circumstances. (Her friend isn't on CharleyProject and, actually, her name isn't even mentioned.)

 

[forthelost]

Namus just listed the victim always listed as female as male.

 

[Roselvr]

Namus just listed the victim always listed as female as male.

She now back to female
We Carl; Still Seek Answers & myself) have no clue what's been going on.

 

[Odyssey]

The Mendocino Sheriff's site still shows a male and a female.

 

[Roselvr]

Does anyone know if they were reburied after they were exhumed in 2012?

 

[Migmuu]

Guys, I think I found a good set of PMs.

Francine Trimble was just recently added to NamUs. It says she probably ran away with Kerry Ann Graham.

1. Their age (14 and 16 respectively) fit the UIDs' age range
2. Francine's height is within both UIDs's range. Kerry is listed as 4'11 (but I don't totally trust NamUs's height entries since I've seen them wrong so many times, so maybe they meant 5'7).
3. Both UIDs had light brown hair. Kelly was auburn and Francine was apparently blonde - both of which could possibly be seen as light brown.
4. Francine disappeared in December 1978, both UIDs apparently died around that time. Kelly's listed as being missing since December 1979 but if it says Francine ran away with her, that is probably incorrect
5. There isn't a pic of Francine but Kelly looks similar to one of the UIDs
6. Both girls disappeared from Sonoma County. This is 130 miles from Mendocino County.
7. The circumstances line up.

Will call this in ASAP.

 

[osadelnorte]

I think Kerry is wearing a necklace with a bird on it in her photo on Namus. Maybe related to the bird earrings found with the UID's?

 

[carbuff]

Kerry's been on Charley Project for a while http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/graham_kerry.html and she's listed as 4'11" there, too. NCMEC lists her even shorter, at 4'9" http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMC/1225186/1

That's awfully short for a 16-year-old though, so definitely questionable. And Francine's information really throws the date into question, doesn't it?

 

[Migmuu]

Kerry's been on Charley Project for a while http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/g/graham_kerry.html and she's listed as 4'11" there, too. NCMEC lists her even shorter, at 4'9" http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMC/1225186/1

That's awfully short for a 16-year-old though, so definitely questionable. And Francine's information really throws the date into question, doesn't it?

Yeah, it makes me wonder if her height was supposed to be set at 5'7, not 57 inches.

 

[Roselvr]

Guys, I think I found a good set of PMs.

Francine Trimble was just recently added to NamUs. It says she probably ran away with Kerry Ann Graham.

1. Their age (14 and 16 respectively) fit the UIDs' age range
2. Francine's height is within both UIDs's range. Kerry is listed as 4'11 (but I don't totally trust NamUs's height entries since I've seen them wrong so many times, so maybe they meant 5'7).
3. Both UIDs had light brown hair. Kelly was auburn and Francine was apparently blonde - both of which could possibly be seen as light brown.
4. Francine disappeared in December 1978, both UIDs apparently died around that time. Kelly's listed as being missing since December 1979 but if it says Francine ran away with her, that is probably incorrect
5. There isn't a pic of Francine but Kelly looks similar to one of the UIDs
6. Both girls disappeared from Sonoma County. This is 130 miles from Mendocino County.
7. The circumstances line up.

Will call this in ASAP.

Hold tight; I'm asking Todd if he ever turned Kerry in for me. Just gave him Francine's info. Look at her DNA; Initial inquiry underway; which makes me wonder if they sought her out for entry into NamUs.

Was in Diane Genise Dye's thread; one of Diane's friends says Carl's recon looks like Diane; but Diane's missing date is correct; so she can't be

This is creepy. Because Jane Doe#2 looks a good deal like Diane. Thank you for sharing this information.
NamUs UP # 10450 - found 7/8/79 - now known as female - Probable year of death 1978 - DNA Status: Complete - Insufficient DNA for profiling

Are they sure of the dates these two missing teens would died? I mean how can they be certain? What if the dates are off a bit? On the other hand if that be the case then all these sightings of Diane were just someone that looked like Diane? Well maybe, but in all these years I can't recall ever encountering a another person who looked like her. Diane had a really irregular kind of face. I know it doesn't really show in the few pics that are on the net, but still I wonder. Jane Doe #2 does look quite a bit like Diane really did

 

[Migmuu]

Roselvr, have you heard anything yet?

 

[ALadInsane]

Toni McNatt-Chiappetta ( https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/2497/20/) clearly resembles one of the UIDs (http://doenetwork.org/cases/131ufca.html) but she was last seen on 1981 according to NamUs. She had pierced ears.

Tina Kemp (https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/6937/21/) is the closest match I can find for the other UID (http://doenetwork.org/cases/111umca.html). Timeline matches for this one.

Both of them disappeared far away from California.

 

[Roselvr]

Roselvr, have you heard anything yet?

Sorry been really busy. Going to ask again. I feel they are the Doe's.

 

[Roselvr]

Sorry been really busy. Going to ask again. I feel they are the Doe's.

Just sent Carrie Sutherland an email

 

[Roselvr]

Thank you to Migmuu for PM'ing me to ask if I had heard from Carrie. I had not; so I sent her another email to ask if she got it; she said there are many similarities, but there are many differences as well. She sent it forward. Glad to finally know it's been sent in!

Guys, I think I found a good set of PMs.

Francine Trimble was just recently added to NamUs. It says she probably ran away with Kerry Ann Graham.

1. Their age (14 and 16 respectively) fit the UIDs' age range
2. Francine's height is within both UIDs's range. Kerry is listed as 4'11 (but I don't totally trust NamUs's height entries since I've seen them wrong so many times, so maybe they meant 5'7).
3. Both UIDs had light brown hair. Kelly was auburn and Francine was apparently blonde - both of which could possibly be seen as light brown.
4. Francine disappeared in December 1978, both UIDs apparently died around that time. Kelly's listed as being missing since December 1979 but if it says Francine ran away with her, that is probably incorrect
5. There isn't a pic of Francine but Kelly looks similar to one of the UIDs
6. Both girls disappeared from Sonoma County. This is 130 miles from Mendocino County.
7. The circumstances line up.

Will call this in ASAP.

 

[FiveFelines]

Charley Project has two photos up for Francine Trimble. I really feel she and Graham are these Does.

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/t/trimble_francine.html



CP also has her date last seen as December 1979, not 1978. I wonder if that's an error.