CANADA Canada - Florence Pearse, 69, West Dalhousie, NS, 14 Nov 2005

This is very sad and I agree that it does not sound like LE followed it through.

How far did your aunt typically walk? I would imagine that it would be very cold in NS at that time of year and as you mentioned due to the deep snow off the road she couldn't have waded off too far. I am trying to judge how much area LE would have had to search.

When you said she was a "thorn in the side of her ex-husband and his family" what do you mean by this? And what was their reaction (if any or known) did they have in regards to her disappearance. Are any of them in LE??

It really is not that long ago - colder cases have been solved through perseverence by family members. I hope it is true in this case as well.

I am not sure how you came to join WS but maybe its fate!

My mum thinks that it might have been raining those days (according to her memory), so perhaps the snow was not deep around there, and it might have been warm. My aunt was a very big walker, so it is possible she went fairly far, we aren't sure. My dad has searched the area assuming she could have gone off the road anywhere and gone for hours.

Now, with Paintr's info, it looks like she might have taken a trail there.

As to her ex - she was likely doing the average bitter divorcee-type stuff - calling him and harassing his new girlfriend (who was pregnant at the time, I think, so I can see why he wouldn't want her upset), and talking badly about them. She also had recently won a large divorce settlement, gaining half the worth of the house they had shared. (I was unaware of this until talking with my mum tonight. Such things are generally handled fairly discretely by my family.) To my knowledge, none of his family is in LE, but he might have friends - not sure.

It seems the local RCMP handled this whole case, and there were only a handful of them - my mum thinks only one or two had any involvement in this case. It's a small place.

I came to the forum because I've always had an interest in missing persons, and became really wrapped up in the Tori Stafford case, amongst a few others, and every time I looked at a cold case file, Google eventually led me here. After a bit of lurking time, I decided to join up. Thankful I did, now. :)
 
Question: If her foot was found on a trail, I wonder how much underbrush there was? Was it a former train track (many train tracks have been ripped up and turned into recreation trails in NS)? If it was fairly open, my theory of her taking cover might not work, though we do not know how far some animal carried her foot.

More details to come later tonight when I get a chance to type up some notes from my talk with my mum tonight.
 
I had an Aunt Flo too. She was the greatest, in my eyes. I am so sorry for your loss and for the on-going pain of not knowing what happened to her.

Am I correct in my understanding that you are not living near the place where she disappeared?
 
I had an Aunt Flo too. She was the greatest, in my eyes. I am so sorry for your loss and for the on-going pain of not knowing what happened to her.

Am I correct in my understanding that you are not living near the place where she disappeared?

No, sadly, I am in Upper Canada currently. My folks still live nearby, though, and my dad will gladly search any place that people can suggest.
 
When searching, I have been sticking to "Florence Pearse," as my parents believe she had her name legally changed back to this. However, I have also been trying "Florence Feener," and even occasionally "Florence Pierce," as this is how everyone wants to misspell our family name.
 
I will now start posting lumps of the interview here, according to subjects.

Please note: DO NOT post excerpts from this interview anywhere without my express permission.


Discussion on Florence with my Mum
June 17, 2009
5pm
Via phone.


As follows...
 
Q: Can I ask you a few questions about Florence, so I can get this all straight?
A: Ok, but I’m not sure what I recall.

Q: So, when was the last time you spoke with or saw Florence?
A: The day before she went missing, she called me a couple times and dropped by.

Q: She used to call every day, right?
A: Oh yes, every day – she never missed a day.

Q: And Jeff was the last one to see her that day, right?
A: No, [name withheld] did – he helped her move.

Q: But on that day, while she was walking on the road?
A: Oh yes, you’re right – Jeff saw her that day, but not to talk to.

Q: Do you remember what time of day?
A: I don’t know – knowing Jeff, it was likely the crack of dawn.

Q: So, morning, not afternoon?
A: Yes, likely early morning, but I don’t remember exactly.

Q: Does anyone remember what she was wearing?
A: I don’t think anyone noticed. She always wore pants, and not skirts. Boots and a coat, likely.

Q: Would she be likely to carry money with her?
A: Probably.

Q: But her bank didn’t have any activity after then, did it?
A: I don’t think so, no.

Q: It was a habit to walk every day, wasn’t it?
A: Oh yes – Florence was always walking.

Q: What would have made her go off the road? I mean, was that normal for her?
A: You know Florence – she was never afraid of anything!

Q: So, she might have just decided to go walking though the woods.
A: Yes, likely.

Q: Are there any animals around there that would actually kill a person?
A: Well, there’s bears.

Q: But only black bears, right? And those wouldn’t be too dangerous in November, would they?
A: Likely not, no.

Q: A lot of hunters in that area?
A: Probably.

Q: Could it have been an accidental hunting accident?
A: It was hunting season, so maybe.

Q: She didn’t have a dog at the time, did she?
A: No, not any more.

...
 
Q: Do you remember what Florence’s middle name was?
A: Eleanor, I think. I’ll ask your father later.

Q: I know she went by Pearse that last year or so, and her mailing address said Pearse – did she change it legally?
A: Yes, I think so.

Q: She was quite tall – do you know round about what height?
A: About 5’9” or 5’10”, I think.

Q: Was she still really thin before she went missing?
A: Yes, very.

Q: With dark hair? Or had it gone completely grey?
A: It wasn’t grey as long as she could dye it.

Q: And curly? Naturally or did she curl it?
A: I think she curled it.

Q: It was fairly in that photo she sent me just before she died – longer than she used to wear it.
A: It was short again before she went missing.

Q: She wore glasses, I know – even when she went out?
A: Yes. She wore glasses all the time.

Q: What was the weather there the week of November 14, 2005, if you recall?
A: I don’t remember – wet, I think. Not sure, though.

Q: The weather in early January 2006?
A: Well, it was January, so I’d imagine snow.

...
 
Q: Her death was likely accident or natural causes, don’t you think?
A: Probably.

Q: Do you think she had many enemies?
A: She had a few near the end.

Q: Really?
A: Well, she had gotten kind of mouthy there.

Q: Serious enemies?
A: I don’t think so, really.

Q: Can you think of anyone in particular?
A: Well, some people said that [name withheld] and his wife might have done it.

Q: Really?
A: Well, it’s just a rumour, so you can’t go accusing anyone.

Q: Why do they think they did it? For money? She didn’t have as much as that, did she?
A: Well, you know people these days; they’d kill you for fifty cents.

Q: Why would they do it?
A: I don’t know; it’s just something some people have talked about. I know they were into some things, and Florence hung around with him, that’s all.

Q: Do they still live there?
A: No. Their house burned down a week or so after Florence went missing, actually.

Q: And they moved?
A: Yes, they had to – their house burned down.

Q: I know, mum – but they moved away from the town?
A: Yes. They live over [withheld] now. Your father knows them, I think.

Q: What do you think about that theory?
A: I don’t know. It’s just rumours.

Q: How as Florence getting along with Jeff?
A: They didn’t like each other at the time, over something or other.

Q: Anything serious?
A: You know them – always bickering about something.

Q: So, he didn’t stop to talk to her that day he passed her on the road?
A: No – she wouldn’t have talked to him, anyway.

Q: So they weren’t friendly?
A: No.

...
 
Q: Did the police talk to Jeff?
A: Yes. He told them not to look for her, because she was crazy.

Q: Really!
A: Yes. Nice, huh?

Q: But they talked to you?
A: Yes, they came here, and called.

Q: Did they get a photo from you?
A: No. They might have asked Jeff, though.

Q: Was a photo ever publicized?
A: No.

Q: Any posters put up?
A: No, no posters.

Q: What did you tell the police?
A: We didn’t have much to tell. We certainly didn’t tell them she was crazy, that’s for sure.

Q: What was her mood like when she went missing?
A: You know Florence – when she was up, she was up. That week she was really happy.

Q: Why?
A: She was happy to be moving.

Q: She was moving again?
A: No, she had just moved to West Dalhousie the day before.

Q: Really? I had no idea. I thought she’d been there a few months.
A: No, just the day before.

Q: On the 13th?
A: The day before she disappeared, yes.

Q: So, it’s possible she went for a walk, and got lost?
A: No. She was in that area a lot, for years. She used to baby sit for a family there all the time.

Q: Was she still babysitting for a family there?
A: No.

Q: Was she renting?
A: Yes.

Q: House or apartment?
A: House.

Q: Near the family she used to baby sit for?
A: No, they moved. It was their house she was renting.

Q: Was she living with anyone?
A: No, all by herself.

Q: Any legal trouble or anything at the time?
A: No.

Q: And she lived on her pension?
A: Yes.

Q: But you say she had money?
A: Yes, well, she got that settlement from the house, so I guess she had that.

Q: She wasn’t getting along well with [her ex]?
A: Are you kidding?

Q: Her sons?
A: They took [her ex’s] side, I think.

...
 
Q: I am curious as to the foot they found. Do you feel up to talking about that?
A: I guess so, but I don’t know much.

Q: That area it was found in was a heavily wooded area, yes?
A: It’s all pretty much woods.

Q: Was the foot the left or right?
A: I don’t think they ever said.

Q: Was it still in its shoe or boot?
A: Yes. In the boot. I do know that.

Q: And nothing else?
A: Not that I know of.

Q: What happened to the foot?
A: I don’t know. For all we know, it’s still in evidence or whatever.

Q: They never had a funeral?
A: No. I don’t think they wanted to.

Q: Do you know if they tested it for DNA?
A: You know, they must have.

Q: But you guys never got the results?
A: Well, they said it was certainly her, so I think they did test.

Q: DNA from her son(s)?
A: I’d imagine.

Q: So she was declared dead, with 100% certainty?
A: Oh yes – the insurance paid out, so she must have been.

Q: I didn’t know she had a policy. Did it go to her son(s)?
A: Yes.

...
 
Q: About the investigation, did you guys get any calls or updates?
A: No, never.

Q: Did you guys call them?
A: We thought to, but we weren’t sure who to contact.

Q: Was it the RCMP?
A: Yes.

Q: No local LE at all? Not Bridgewater, or anything else?
A: I don’t think so.

Q: Any specific names of any investigators you recall?
A: They never said. I don’t even think any specific officers were assigned.

Q: But they did use dogs in the search?
A: Oh yes, they did say that, and so did the papers.

Q: But you guys never saw proof?
A: No.

Q: I just wonder why the dogs never found the foot if they were out there so long.
A: Good question.

Q: It seems that the search didn’t go very well.
A: No, I just don’t think they gave a damn. We only have two or three cops around here, so they got busy and figured not to bother. I think they figured she was a nut and left it at that. I don’t think they worry too much when an older person goes missing, you know?

Q: But dad looked?
A: Oh, gosh yes, dad looked for weeks or more. Whenever he thinks of a new place to try, he goes.

Q: I’d like to find her so he can rest easier.
A: I’d like to know what happened, myself. I think about her quite often. She had her troubles like anybody, but she had a good heart. And she sure thought the world of you.

Q: I know. I miss her, too. You know, when I was pregnant, we considered “Flora” as a girl’s name.
A: She would have loved that. She would have loved [Sprout]. His great-aunt.

Q: I know, I think about that a lot. Well, let’s see what we can do about finding her. Thanks for answering all these questions.
A: Sorry I didn’t know too much. I hope it helps.

**end**
 
The house of her enemy burned down a week after she went missing, and her enemy moved away from town?

Her son told the police not to look for her?

Her son has never called her brother to tell him, yes, a DNA test was done on the foot? Are you going to call her son to see if a DNA test was done? Or check with the insurance company or LE?

I don't know, but it all sounds kind of suspicious to me.
 
The house of her enemy burned down a week after she went missing, and her enemy moved away from town?

Her son told the police not to look for her?

Her son has never called her brother to tell him, yes, a DNA test was done on the foot? Are you going to call her son to see if a DNA test was done? Or check with the insurance company or LE?

I don't know, but it all sounds kind of suspicious to me.

Well, though this fellow was *rumoured* to have killed her, he was her friend, not her enemy... it's kind of hazy, but I think the rumour focuses a lot on his wife being the instigator there. Again, this is all pure rumour.

Her brother told them not to look for her; the brother who spotted her on the day she disappeared.

And, no, her sons have no contact with her side of their family, sadly.
 
Or maybe the son who was the last one to see her alive? Generally police will suspect the last person to see a victim....
Great question and often the first one LE asks. Who benefits? Hope it wasn't the ex. :eek:
 

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