GUILTY Canada - Jessica Newman, 24, Calgary, 10 March 2015 #2

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Lalalacasbah said:
I feel like Jessica knew her murderer or was at least acquainted with this person somehow.

I would almost guess the person who killed her has no record or hasn't killed before only because there seems to be a mere speck of some small conscience at work by 'letting' her remains be found after that letter. Just a guess though, and the court date timing seems too aligned.

<modsnip>In these situations I tend to look at other family members other than the exes who might be close to the children (grandparents, aunts/uncles) sometimes they feel they have something to lose and might feel Jessica was in the way.
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I keep going back to that letter for clues... Obviously, someone that LE had interviewed in the investigation, was purposely trying to deceive them. Why they didn't just say to that person that they are on to him, is a mystery. Why the need for a public statement? I surmise that it is possible that this person stopped communicating with LE... They needed to get a message to this person and had to go public. That, or maybe they were suggesting that other people know what went down and were not cooperating. Either way, it seems to have worked, because her body magically appeared and was coincidentally found by a friend.
 
Hey folks .. it's not open season on anyone or everyone who knew Jessica unless they are a named POI or suspect via LE through MSM. If a POI/suspect is announced, then have at it. We know it's frustrating at times .. but them's the rules !!

from:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?65798-Etiquette-amp-Information

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If there is any confusion wrt the bolded part, it refers to individuals whose names have appeared in MSM articles on the case, not folks we've picked at random for whatever reason.
 
http://globalnews.ca/news/1986096/jessica-newmans-loved-ones-rally-to-pay-for-funeral-children/
"The 24-year-old was last seen March 10 leaving her place of work, the Water Grill, in southeast Calgary.

The next day, she was supposed to be at a custody hearing for her youngest son, but never showed up.

"It&#8217;s all she wanted&#8230;after months of fighting, she finally got it, then this happened,&#8221; said Chamberlain."


Still no mention from Police.
The article states that she was last seen leaving her place of work. No mention of her being dropped off at home by an ex-boyfriend. Strange.
 
sillybilly said:
Hey folks .. it's not open season on anyone or everyone who knew Jessica unless they are a named POI or suspect via LE through MSM. If a POI/suspect is announced, then have at it. We know it's frustrating at times .. but them's the rules !!

from:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?65798-Etiquette-amp-Information

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If there is any confusion wrt the bolded part, it refers to individuals whose names have appeared in MSM articles on the case, not folks we've picked at random for whatever reason.
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I thought that we were told in the past, that as long as we use initials and didn't link to their personal social-media pages, it was allowed? TIA! :eek:
 
sillybilly said:
Hey folks .. it's not open season on anyone or everyone who knew Jessica unless they are a named POI or suspect via LE through MSM. If a POI/suspect is announced, then have at it. We know it's frustrating at times .. but them's the rules !!

from:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?65798-Etiquette-amp-Information

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If there is any confusion wrt the bolded part, it refers to individuals whose names have appeared in MSM articles on the case, not folks we've picked at random for whatever reason.
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Sorry sillybilly, I thought initials were okay! And I just had my TO lifted too because of a post not realizing it's wasn't allowed. Didn't mean to do that, seriously thought initials were still allowed for some reason.
 
LoisLane said:
http://globalnews.ca/news/1986096/jessica-newmans-loved-ones-rally-to-pay-for-funeral-children/
"The 24-year-old was last seen March 10 leaving her place of work, the Water Grill, in southeast Calgary.

The next day, she was supposed to be at a custody hearing for her youngest son, but never showed up.

"It&#8217;s all she wanted&#8230;after months of fighting, she finally got it, then this happened,&#8221; said Chamberlain."


Still no mention from Police.
The article states that she was last seen leaving her place of work. No mention of her being dropped off at home by an ex-boyfriend. Strange.
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Something else I thought about...*if* she did get dropped off at home and didn't go in (like I think LE said) maybe she did go into her house but was caught off guard as soon as she got in the door....So no time to take jacket off, put keys down, take off shoes, etc. those little habits we do to show we've been home.

Does anyone else have keys to her place that maybe was there waiting for her as soon as she got in the door?
 
Lalalacasbah said:
Something else I thought about...*if* she did get dropped off at home and didn't go in (like I think LE said) maybe she did go into her house but was caught off guard as soon as she got in the door....So no time to take jacket off, put keys down, take off shoes, etc. those little habits we do to show we've been home.

Does anyone else have keys to her place that maybe was there waiting for her as soon as she got in the door?
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Since it's just background, the reporter is probably guilty of not keeping up with the story.
 
OutOfTheDarkness said:
Since it's just background, the reporter is probably guilty of not keeping up with the story.
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Oh, I wasn't going off of that particular story detail, actually what I find the most interesting about Lois' post is the reference to fighting, but I didn't comment on that and got off track!

The post more or less triggered an idea about the story we've been hearing all along and that is - that she was supposed to have been dropped at home and presumably did not go in, so mine was an angle that maybe she did go in, but only literally got through the front door.
 
Lalalacasbah said:
Something else I thought about...*if* she did get dropped off at home and didn't go in (like I think LE said) maybe she did go into her house but was caught off guard as soon as she got in the door....So no time to take jacket off, put keys down, take off shoes, etc. those little habits we do to show we've been home.

Does anyone else have keys to her place that maybe was there waiting for her as soon as she got in the door?
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We also don't know if she did go in or not. She may have gone in, changed, took her bag and keys and went back out. No offense to those with an X chromosome, but most men wouldn't notice if she had changed that day. Her roommate works long hours as reported, so he doubtful knew if she had come home and left again.
 
Lalalacasbah said:
Oh, I wasn't going off of that particular story detail, actually what I find the most interesting about Lois' post is the reference to fighting, but I didn't comment on that and got off track!

The post more or less triggered an idea about the story we've been hearing all along and that is - that she was supposed to have been dropped at home and presumably did not go in, so mine was an angle that maybe she did go in, but only literally got through the front door.
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I suspect that the reference to fighting was with CFS and not the ex. According to his public posts on the missing page, they were on good terms.
 
The letter and the story about an "ex" dropping her off were released on the same day. Since the letter pleas to someone about 2 sides to every story, and about misleading LE, one could suspect the letter was targeted at someone who knows the "ex", and was possibly told a different story than "dropping her off".
 
I have been reading a few news stories in Calgary lately and think I found a connection.

A couple months ago, Nick Lush was murdered and just recently 2 people were charged with his death.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...remains-found-by-rcmp-near-longview-1.3025697

I will find the article that mentions Nick was lured to a party out of town near Pincher Creek, supposedly by his cousin. In a Reddit thread on this, the cousin was named, and I happen to know him through attached circles of people. Once I heard that, I double checked on FB and he is friends with Nick, and the 2 men charged with the murder. He was an old friend of a friend who was definitely involved in drugs when I knew him a few years ago..

When I heard about Jessica Newman and that she worked at the Watergrill, something clicked in my head that the cousin used to spend a lot of time there when he was dating another girl who worked there. Curious, I looked on FB - and he is also friends with Jessica Newman.

I am hoping something comes out about this from LE. I dont know for sure he has anything to do with Jessica's disappearance, but just thinking that circles can be quite small and him having a connection with 2 people found murdered (2 people who also are from very similar social circles) was a bit too much to ignore.
 
Honestly folks, I do not dream this stuff up ;). I've double-checked with Admin on my understanding/interpretation of the rules.

Family members and others reported on or named/quoted in MSM can be discussed.

Victim or perp&#8217;s name can be used in full. For all others named in MSM, we use initials. IOW, if it was reported in MSM that &#8220;Joe Pumpkin found Sam Slugger's body&#8221; we subsequently refer to him as JP, i.e. &#8220;When JP found Sam's body &#8230;&#8221;.

Personal social media is off limits and comments made on public pages should not be discussed. This avoids our threads being derailed with rumours that grow long legs.

Posts on an individual&#8217;s FB page cannot be discussed unless that person is the victim or a named POI/suspect.

Please ask any further questions through PM to a Mod or Admin. Thanks.
 
sillybilly said:
Honestly folks, I do not dream this stuff up ;). I've double-checked with Admin on my understanding/interpretation of the rules.

Family members and others reported on or named/quoted in MSM can be discussed.

Victim or perp&#8217;s name can be used in full. For all others named in MSM, we use initials. IOW, if it was reported in MSM that &#8220;Joe Pumpkin found Sam Slugger's body&#8221; we subsequently refer to him as JP, i.e. &#8220;When JP found Sam's body &#8230;&#8221;.

Personal social media is off limits and comments made on public pages should not be discussed. This avoids our threads being derailed with rumours that grow long legs.

Posts on an individual&#8217;s FB page cannot be discussed unless that person is the victim or a named POI/suspect.

Please ask any further questions through PM to a Mod or Admin. Thanks.
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Thanks, looks like we all have to keep quiet now. Oh well I guess we wait
 
Something beyond dreadful happened to that girl. I can't help thinking she got caught up with people who had more money than she did, lived a more affluent/glamorous life and when she tried to get away she 'knew too much' and was killed. I could see a young mom wanting to cut ties with any kind of toxic elements just before getting custody rights back.
I am not suggesting Jessica was directly involved in a life of crime, but it gives me pause knowing she was at one point denied unescorted custody. Knowing a little bit about child protection from a previous career, and find this odd.
No doubt CPS is well aware of any influences in this young woman's life, and they will unravel this.
 
Krystine said:
Something beyond dreadful happened to that girl. I can't help thinking she got caught up with people who had more money than she did, lived a more affluent/glamorous life and when she tried to get away she 'knew too much' and was killed. I could see a young mom wanting to cut ties with any kind of toxic elements just before getting custody rights back.
I am not suggesting Jessica was directly involved in a life of crime, but it gives me pause knowing she was at one point denied unescorted custody. Knowing a little bit about child protection from a previous career, and find this odd.
No doubt CPS is well aware of any influences in this young woman's life, and they will unravel this.
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You could be right, many times people are not who they appear to be. I agree with you about the children and CPS it does seem strange.
 
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