CO- Dylan Redwine, 13, Vallecito, 19 November 2012 - #13

[LotusPawprint]

“We’re doing the best we can with the resources we have,” and now are prepared and capable of moving ahead with the investigation, he added. He noted that, “God forbid” this happens again, local authorities will be more prepared to deal with it.


In fact, the investigation and search have blossomed, Phippen said.


“When law enforcement can only go so far, we depend on the public,” media and other organizations and individuals to help, he said.

investigation has blossomed? interesting.


They depend on the public, eh? We're HERE!

HELP US HELP YOU!!!


http://durangoherald.com/article/20121208/NEWS01/121209618/Volunteers-search-for-Dylan--

 

[beach]

As of yesterday afternoon, Denise Hess (family friend/running Find Dylan fb page/coordinator of all things find Dylan) responded to a poster who asked about TES -- she said that LE asked people to hold off.

I'm discouraged by that.

ITA they should be called in.
Hope LE isn't hesitant to call in TES; they work with them, not in place of LE.
I'm not sure what they're waiting for.

Thank you for letting us know that.

I don't understand it AT ALL, but glad to know they are aware of TES.

I'm just so, so worried about the freezing temps in that particular remote location. They need Tim's expertise and help, imo. And like, now.

 

[Yoda]

As of yesterday afternoon, Denise Hess (family friend/running Find Dylan fb page/coordinator of all things find Dylan) responded to a poster who asked about TES -- she said that LE asked people to hold off.

I'm discouraged by that.

ITA they should be called in.
Hope LE isn't hesitant to call in TES; they work with them, not in place of LE.
I'm not sure what they're waiting for.

There are a lot of things LE does in missing cases that I don't understand, like not utilizing the public more or not holding press conferences. To me, LE asking to hold off on TES, gives me the impression that they possibly know what happened to Dylan and don't want to waste TES time or resources. BUT, then again, LE's decisions usually don't make sense to me. Jmo. And I respect LE greatly. I would just like to know the statistics and research that support current procedures.

 

[catswhiskers]

I thought it might be because they were hoping to find evidence, but didn't expect to find his body. MOO

Even if they were looking for items of evidence, surely knowingly having a POI involved would be very risky as you'd expect they could knowingly step over or pass by something on purpose? :moo:
I am guessing the LE involvement today wasn't just limited to locals with limited experience - would the other more specialised agencies still be monitoring or giving advice?

Hmmm, maybe it was to see if Elaine spotted any unusual behavior in Mark during the search that may provide them more clues or information? Probly not allowed to say what else I'm thinking ...

Regarding AlexisFresca's comment above - I doubt that MR and ER would have been working in the same search groups or areas, or that LE would ask that of the victims family, especially under such strained circumstances as theirs.

:moo: again

 

[Chili Fries]

I am afraid they don't have a clue as to what happened to Dylan.

<snipped>

I don't think it's prudent to say that when we know there is a lot of possible evidence at the crime labs. LE surely took a lot of stuff from MR's residence and vehicles. Who knows if any of that will be important, but it will take a while for it all to be processed.

 

[ICUDOUCME]

Even if they were looking for items of evidence, surely knowingly having a POI involved would be very risky as you'd expect they could knowingly step over or pass by something on purpose?

I don't think they would of let MR be involved at all if they thought he was POI.

 

[jjenny]

I don't think they would of let MR be involved at all if they thought he was POI.

And yet they searched his house, his cars, and now the road from the airport in the direction of his house.

 

[JaimeSommers]

As of yesterday afternoon, Denise Hess (family friend/running Find Dylan fb page/coordinator of all things find Dylan) responded to a poster who asked about TES -- she said that LE asked people to hold off.

I'm discouraged by that.

ITA they should be called in.
Hope LE isn't hesitant to call in TES; they work with them, not in place of LE.
I'm not sure what they're waiting for.

Personal and professional egos need to be set aside for the sake of finding this child.

 

[Confusion]

I don't think they would of let MR be involved at all if they thought he was POI.

He seems to be a person of interest to almost everybody except the police... I definitely couldn't see someone they suspected was involved in any crime assisting them while they were looking for evidence to hang him. :twocents:

 

[scorekeeper]

I don't think they would of let MR be involved at all if they thought he was POI.

I don't know how they could have excluded him without naming him a POI.

Just because they haven't said he was a POI doesn't mean LE doesn't have him within their sites....

 

[ICUDOUCME]

Found an article about a guy and girl(real strange put in by a local from the area)in our local American classifieds wonder if it might be of some interest to this case, since our area is very much interconnected with Durango,Bayfield, and Ignacio.

 

[Abby Normal Again]

Lurking lots, posting little. This says it all to me, IMO. If the Sheriff's Office has ruled out runaway and does not think an accident happened to Dylan while he was wandering in the wilderness....AND they now do not believe 'there is a sex offender abducting children' in the area....THEN that leaves us with....well, you fill in the blank.

But, for me, A plus B equals C. 'Nuff said. I bet a certain someone was VERY uncomfortable during today's search.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121208/NEWS01/121209618/Volunteers-search-for-Dylan--

My town recently had a 6 yo child raped and murdered. The only thing LE put out publicly was that there was no cause for concern for the community, leading us all to believe it was familial. It was the little girl's next door neighbor.

Feel free to translate this as black and white in meaning, but my experience says I shouldn't.

 

[Linda7NJ]

I don't think they would of let MR be involved at all if they thought he was POI.

They have no legal right to stop him.
As far as I know, he is a United States citizen, that gives him rights.




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[scorekeeper]

investigation has blossomed? interesting.


They depend on the public, eh? We're HERE!

HELP US HELP YOU!!!


http://durangoherald.com/article/20121208/NEWS01/121209618/Volunteers-search-for-Dylan--

this statement was made AFTER the search was over?

Maybe, hopefully a useful clue was found.

lease:lease:

 

[jjenny]

He seems to be a person of interest to almost everybody except the police... I definitely couldn't see someone they suspected was involved in any crime assisting them while they were looking for evidence to hang him. :twocents:

He is the last known person to see his child. In Lauren S. case, police declared a whole bunch of people who saw her before she went missing POIs.

 

[AlexisFresca]

Lurking lots, posting little. This says it all to me, IMO. If the Sheriff's Office has ruled out runaway and does not think an accident happened to Dylan while he was wandering in the wilderness....AND they now do not believe 'there is a sex offender abducting children' in the area....THEN that leaves us with....well, you fill in the blank.

But, for me, A plus B equals C. 'Nuff said. I bet a certain someone was VERY uncomfortable during today's search.

http://durangoherald.com/article/20121208/NEWS01/121209618/Volunteers-search-for-Dylan--

Or very comfortable if LE is off the mark in the area they searched. Both scenarios have gone through my mind.

 

[scorekeeper]

Found an article about a guy and girl(real strange put in by a local from the area)in our local American classifieds wonder if it might be of some interest to this case, since our area is very much interconnected with Durango,Bayfield, and Ignacio.

can you provide a link?

 

[jjenny]

Personal and professional egos need to be set aside for the sake of finding this child.

Agreed. Just searching a ditch along the road is not enough. There is a whole lot of wooded area surrounding the road.

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Found an article about a guy and girl(real strange put in by a local from the area)in our local American classifieds wonder if it might be of some interest to this case, since our area is very much interconnected with Durango,Bayfield, and Ignacio.

this sounds interesting...

Could you expand on this... Without breaking TOS?

TIA

 

[Linda7NJ]

Even if they were looking for items of evidence, surely knowingly having a POI involved would be very risky as you'd expect they could knowingly step over or pass by something on purpose? :moo:
I am guessing the LE involvement today wasn't just limited to locals with limited experience - would the other more specialised agencies still be monitoring or giving advice?



Regarding AlexisFresca's comment above - I doubt that MR and ER would have been working in the same search groups or areas, or that LE would ask that of the victims family, especially under such strained circumstances as theirs.

:moo: again

In my very limited experience, while the community gathered to do ground searches for Autumn Pasquale, people were assigned in small groups, briefed, and assigned an area on a grid map.

After the briefing, I declined because I had my 14 year old son with me. We were instructed to look in trash cans, yards, dumpsters etc. The fear of actually finding her coupled with the knowledge that the perp often searches alongside people that actually care was more than I could handle.

We passed out flyers


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