CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 # 8

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 48s49 seconds ago
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Pros will now talk to DR about video. Significant to JH talking about depression
 
Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 45s45 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes says selfies w/ tactical gears & guns were 2 show he could buy it all. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 35s35 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Dr - that’s his statement remembering from 2 years ago. Review of record doesn’t present any debilitating depression

--Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 56s56 seconds ago
JH kept talking about his depression but Dr. says JH didn't have severe depression prior to shooting #theatershooting #theatertrial
 
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 49s49 seconds ago
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In notebook was mention of depression. Dr. Fenton & other psych from school didn’t indicated depression as major issue

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH's prior therapists didn't find he was clinically depressed or a major role in his issues #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting Someone in jail awaiting charges/court could lead to depression and is common

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes kept apt. clean, had plant to "add personality." Called it "Planty." Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH - Para-suicide w. cardboard reference. Early teens. Sitting in van leaving Salinas to San Diego. Didn’t want to leave

He cut at himself. “Parasuicide” is a clinical term. It means wanting to die but no indication he truly wanted to die
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 53s54 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Parasuicide - NON-Fatal act. Doesn’t put it in category as suicide attempt.
 
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 58s58 seconds ago
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Family therapy, individual therapy - no indication with all professionals they said he was suicidal but Dr Gerr mentioned

--Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes says Photoshopped profile pic w/ *advertiser censored* star "makes him look desirable." Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

The incident when he was an adolescent in her notes. nothing when he was older

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH used wrd parasuicide which is a clinical word. JH tried 2 cut himself w/ crdbrd. Dr says this isn't an attempted suicide #theatershooting

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Anica Padilla ‏@AnicaPadilla · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting trial
Dr. Reid: 'Were you a pretty desirable guy in… 2012?'
Gunman: 'I would say so.'
http://bit.ly/theatertrial

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Not uncommon to become suicidal when in jail.

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Aurora Theater Trial ‏@theatershooting · 1m1 minute ago
“They didn’t take it from my perspective”, #theatershooting gunman talked about media coverage of the shooting: http://dpo.st/1GgBhzo

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Discussion in video JH “transferred” suicidal thoughts into homicide. B/C those thoughts were protecting him from suicide
 
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 51s52 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Dr says in his experience JH says he had homicidal thought and he ASSUMES they were covering suicidal thoughts
 
Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Dr. pushes Holmes on idea he/sis have abandoned each other. No on both counts. Live http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH discusses he transfers his suicidal thoughts into homicidal thoughts. #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Dr Gerr - heard it differently

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes says he gets more letter in jail from people he doesn't know than fam. Live http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH says he felt catatonic (mental health term) - pathological, involuntarily rigidity. Muscle rigidity, sits/stands still
Can be for hours. If you move their arm it just stays there
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH says he was sitting still for hours and was in a catatonic state #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Catatonic disorders can be that they don’t move much. In a stupor

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes thinks friends would tell Dr. he was good friend but they don't write. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Catatonia - scene in ‘One Flew Over The Cuckoo Cuckoo’s Next’ shows this. Raise someone’s hand for them and it stays up
JH thought he had many things but it seem he misunderstood them
Kept going to class, shopped, saw friends, exercised 2-3 days a week
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
Dr. Reid thinks the catatonic state was a concern for JH but he misunderstood what it really is #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Kept going to class, shopped, saw friends, exercised 2-3 days a week
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 3m3 minutes ago
JH was still working out, going shopping and riding his bike....not catatonic #theatershooting #theatertrial

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting mental eval vid: Holmes watched news in wks following shooting. He was being called "gunman." Live: http://link.kdvr

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Significance with “Gargi” (spelling?) Being able to form friendships is significant to mental health
 
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

JH did carry on close relationship between Oct-March is more healthy than unhealthy. Doesn’t define anything in itself
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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JH saw as his future (family, home) - JH said he wanted to get married and have kids. This showed Dr world wouldn’t end

Notebook - written with knowledge someone would read it.

Pics - Knew people would see

DR - Didn’t seem He thought the world would end unless police killed him on the spot
--Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH had social relationships & he didn't have a view the world would end. He created notebook knowing some1 would read it #theatershooting

--Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
Dr. Reid's #TheaterShooting mental eval testimony: Notebook says depression = issue. Psychs who saw him didn't. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Dr says he only told Dr Gerr he did the victims a favor by killing them. In these videos he says they didn’t want to die

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
Dr. Reid's #TheaterShooting mental eval testimony: Holmes wasn't overcome w/ depression. Was going about life. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

--Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
Nothing in the records saying JH was doing people a favor by killing them. He stated the people wouldn't want to die #TheaterShooting

--Anica Padilla ‏@AnicaPadilla · 2m2 minutes ago
#TheaterShooting trial
Dr. Reid: 'Has your sister deserted you?'
Gunman: 'Nope. We're uh, living separate lives.'
http://bit.ly/theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH initiated relationship with woman in Neuroscience program. Doc says it’s normal & texts confirm that

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 57s57 seconds ago
JH wanting to distance himself from Hillary so she wasn't a GF of a murderer shows he was anticipating being a killer. #theatershooting
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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 50s50 seconds ago
#theatershooting

He says he didn’t want Hillary to be associated with a murderer. Murderer - JH word, not Dr Reid's
 
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 50s50 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Purchases - the items he bought had purpose. JH mentioned “overkill”. He didn’t go buy spontaneously.

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 50s50 seconds ago
Record indicates JH had purpose when buying his weapons & gear. He even noted it was "overkill" #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

He researched guns that were easy to use, related to unfortunately rational purpose. Shot ammo
 
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 47s48 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Different from unusual buying in manic purchasing. buy things you don’t need with $$ you don’t have in poor judgement

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH was rational when making these purchases. He wasn't experiencing mania #theatershooting #theatertrial

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH was rational when making these purchases. He wasn't experiencing mania #theatershooting #theatertrial

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 57s58 seconds ago
Dr Reid #TheaterShooting mental eval testimony: Holmes misdiagnosed self in notebook. He didn't have catatonia. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH was not making unusual food purchases #theatershooting
 
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Picked theater instead of airport b/c he didn’t want this to be mistaken for terrorism

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH wanted a contained environment to kill people. He wanted a lot of people in one spot. He didn't want people to escape #theatershooting

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--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Picked a show likely to be packed and knew that. Picked late show b/c fewer children there

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

RIP Veronica (bbm)
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH picked a show that he knew would be packed and a late show so less children would be there #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Says he didn’t want to kill children and was sorry when he learned a child had been killed

Age of the person doesn’t matter in line with his”point system” which will learn about in video later
He said children were a class of victims he didn’t want to use for his points
He wasn’t sure there wouldn’t be children there
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH chose a theater so it wouldn't look like an act of terrorism #theatershooting #theatertrial

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
Children weren't a class of victims JH wanted to target #theatertrial #theatershooting

--Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH said he was sorry a child was killed #theatershooting #theatertrial

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Selfies/photos - What does JH think pics are showing and what does he want to show? He knew other would see them
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

They had to do w. his wanting people to see him as strong, dangerous, defend himself, and to be REMEMBERED

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
Reid #TheaterShooting mental eval testimony: Holmes only told Dr. Gur he did victims favor. Never told me that. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH wanted the selfies seen and he wanted others to see him as strong, dangerous and some1 to be remembered #Theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

Not just next week, but remembered for a long time. It was a conscious choice of how to show himself in pics.
 
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

He hopes there will be people there to remember him: The world is not going to live

In this segment, nothing changed Dr’s opinion about JH not knowing right from wrong and had intent to kill
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH wanting people to remember him went against his world will end statements #theatershooting #theatertrial

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
Dr. Reid #TheaterShooting mental eval testimony: Holmes had healthy relationships. 1 he initiated pre-shooting. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

New disks being introduced

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
Dr. Reid says his opinion is still JH knew right from wrong #theatershooting #theatertrial

--Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 2m2 minutes ago
Dr Reid #TheaterShooting mental eval testimony: Holmes called weapons "overkill." They weren't spontaneous buys. Live http://link.kdvr.com/

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
Dr. Reid #TheaterShooting mental eval testimony: Holmes bought weapons that were easy to use. That's rational. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV
 
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 56s57 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Video playing. Watch live at http://www.thegoldpatrol.com

--Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
Reid #TheaterShooting mental eval testimony: Holmes carefully chose packed theater but late show so fewer kids. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 53s54 seconds ago
#theatershooting

JH reminds Dr he wanted to talk about the apartment

(MOO---JH seemed VERY eager to discuss apartment)
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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 55s56 seconds ago
Reid #TheaterShooting mental eval testimony: Holmes' killing point system didn't include kids. Didn't want them. Live http://link.kdvr.com/1Fp1WUV

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 47s48 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Dr showing photos of apartment to JH. JH explains photo: incendiary devices I made. I ordered cannon shells in 3 & 6

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH looking at a pic of his apartment. Sounding proud of his bomb making skills #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 52s52 seconds ago
#theatershooting

JH is explain how the devices worked. Recalling what went to what. Recalls in perfect detail 2 yrs later

Dr asks how he learned. JH tells again how technically the devices work
 
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Says he didn’t test any of the devices. Figured they wouldn’t work and were made to look bomb like to divert attention

--Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 45s46 seconds ago
JH never tested out his devises. He didn't think it would work or even go off. He wanted it to look scary #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 58s59 seconds ago
#theatershooting

JH wanted to get them away from theater, divert forces to apartment.
Before the shootings began was the plan
Divert through noise complaint prior to shooting
Music would play after 15 min of silence
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH wanted to divert police from theater to apartment #TheaterShooting #theatertrial
 
I call bs on him making the apartment for show
 
Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH wanted his loud music to cause a call into police for a disturbance #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 54s55 seconds ago
#theatershooting

The music came from App where you could connect songs and copy/past minutes of silence in. On highest volume

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 47s48 seconds ago
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Music was next to monitors and bass on floor
 
Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH left his apartment door unlocked for the police #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH left door unlocked and considered a non-police person would come to door. Had trip wire inside door but not trip
If they opened the door, they could see and not come in. Would call 911

JH says cops wouldn’t come in but would be stuck at the scene. Gave small likelihood it would work
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH did take into account a regular person would open door so he didn't attach trip wire to actual door #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

JH says he didn’t put anything inside dumpster. BESIDE it. Boom box and transmitter so someone could trigger fuses.

JH - Another way to set off devices. Says he knows the stuff was taken away b/c he told FBI details about devices
--Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 40s41 seconds ago
JH says he told police all the details about what was in apartment #theatershooting #theatertrial

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 58s58 seconds ago
#theatershooting

JH had basic firework (fuse) experience
 
7NEWS Denver Channel ‏@DenverChannel · 1m1 minute ago
Holmes: Devices in apartment were used to divert police attention away from #theatershooting http://bit.ly/theatertrial

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH says he had basic fireworks knowledge #theatershooting #theatertrial

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 34s34 seconds ago
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Jars - liquid and rounds. JH - Liquid was gasoline and styrofoam - makes napalm. Thought the bullets would go off if lit

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Julie Hayden ‏@HaydenTV · 56s57 seconds ago
#theatershooting : shooter says he thought only small chance devices in apartment would go off but would divert cops

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 37s38 seconds ago
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Had they gone off most damage would be fire if it spread to other apts. JH didn’t think anyone would get hurt

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 34s35 seconds ago
JH thought is was a low probability of it going off. If it did it would mostly be fire. #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

in other apartments
 
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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IN theater, you knew people would get killed. JH - For diversion. I wouldn’t want to be in that room when anything lit

JH doesn’t think it would have spread to other apt. Bullets would have exploded in all directions since not in tube

JH doesn’t think it would have spread to other apt. Bullets would have exploded in all directions since not in tube

JH doesn’t think it would have spread to other apt. Bullets would have exploded in all directions since not in tube
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH says he wouldn't want to be in his apt when it went off. Yet he doesn't think anyone else was in danger in building #theatershooting

--Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH did test the flammability of his set up over the bathtub #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

He though about “just getting it done

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

“It” assembling the components

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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“It” assembling the components

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Diversion - JH says apt is 10-15 min from theater. Adams and Arapahoe Co. were the jurisdictions according to JH
 
The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
#theatershooting

Mission came from within himself. JH - “Mission” was to go to theater & shoot as many people as possible

JH says it was not part of any larger mission
--Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH's mission was to go to theater and shoot as many people as possible #theatershooting #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

JH says it was not part of any larger mission
JH - What made it so important is the alternative was suicide
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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
The #theatershooting was JH's "ultimate mission." #theatertrial

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
#theatershooting

DR - You said you weren’t thinking of it at the time.

JH - I was focused on the homicide

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Julie Hayden ‏@HaydenTV · 38s38 seconds ago
#TheaterShooting; shooter says attacked theater because the alternative was suicide. Says it gave him a purpose

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 45s46 seconds ago
#theatershooting

Dr -alternative was suicide. What leads you to that?

JH - Doing homicide gave me purpose and get out of depression
 
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