CO - James Holmes Trial Discussion - Begins April 27, 2015 # 8

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Reid: Symptoms you talked about - periods of invincibility.

JH - Driving to gym. I just did. Would go over speed lmt

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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 2m2 minutes ago
JH talking about "brief periods of invincibility." #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Actions in hyperspeed: JH - Time seemed to speed up. Twice as fast

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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JH - Not too hyper speed, I guess

---The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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JH - Still be one speed but feel hyper speed.

Reid: It was continuous

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[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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Catatonia - JH a- “kind of tired immobility” lying down & can’t get up. Up to go to bathroom - eat, didn’t wet bed

 

[cujenn81]

I need to catch up on today... but I just tuned in to a few minutes of the live interview recording and the attorneys on both sides look as if they could just as easily be watching paint dry. They look bored to tears.

 

[zoey]

I'm getting it now..tho it's been a long a tedious road...JH throughout his life feels un-valued..but was unwilling to actually do the work to enter socially to gain true friendships or work towards gaining respect or work with anyone else to get some help with that...Instead..became cynical, defiant and began to HATE EVERYONE..so decided to create chaos and mayhem in order to gain VALUE....Sick for sure..BUT well thoughtout and rational ....

It's rational because he weighed the pros and cons..and understood the folkways and morays of society and CHOSE to create his OWN ANSWER to his situations.....YUP..Sick but not LEGALLY INSANE..

OUT DAM SPOT~~Shakespeare's MacBeth quote is how I understand Jh's purpose!!

ahhhh Lady MacBeth!!! In junior high we loved that quote only because we could say dam and get away with it---(simpler times)

a lot of his complaints remind me of that kid in California who wrote that huge note about why he killed those he did--(the virgin)

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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JH says the flickering would happen in his vision in the lab. Turn to see, not there

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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Shadows - could stare at directly

--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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No other visual phenomenon. 1St time he was shadows was 3rd rotation in March - May

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--The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Was sitting at lab desk and saw the moving shadow. Moving and reforming

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 59s59 seconds ago
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Shadow appeared on something in from of him. It split in to two and moved around. Didn’t form recognizable shapes @ 1st

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 40s40 seconds ago
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Looked like a blob at first. Lasted 30 sec

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Reid is going towards exploring if JH was having hallucinations

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[zoey]

I need to catch up on today... but I just tuned in to a few minutes of the live interview recording and the attorneys on both sides look as if they could just as easily be watching paint dry. They look bored to tears.

there are times paint drying would be better....but alas I can gaze out my window and watch the roofers next door.....

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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JH feeling - “What’s going on”

Reid: You say it in narrative way, not emotional What was your feeling?

JH - Surprised

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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JH- Couldn’t think of logical explanation

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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JH not frightened, not worried or concerned

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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JH not frightened, not worried or concerned

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Wasn’t doing any harm. Didn’t think it was a sign of anything

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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JH would tell someone else to see an optometrist or psychiatrist if someone said they saw that to him

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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JH - He would tell them it could be a hallucination

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Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting eval vid: Holmes had "periods of invincibility" & periods when he felt he was in "hyper speed." -> http://link.kdvr.com/1QpiLo1

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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JH explains it something worrisome going on in brain

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Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 2m2 minutes ago
JH wasn't worried at all about these delusions #theatershooting #theatertrial

 

[zoey]

Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting eval vid: Holmes says he also had periods of "catatonia & immobility" when he felt paralyzed. Live: http://link.kdvr.com/1QpiLo1

 

[I'mjazzed]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Reid: Looking in notebook where you say facing death or eviscerating soul. Fire in window drawing

(again sorry I don't do pics)

 

[zoey]

Will C. Holden ‏@will_c_holden · 1m1 minute ago
#TheaterShooting eval vid: Holmes says if someone else was seeing blobs like him, he'd say it may b hallucination--> http://link.kdvr.com/1QpiLo1

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Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 2m2 minutes ago
JH can't recall when he first thought he had a "broken brain." Maybe when he was a teenager. #theatershooting

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[zoey]

:loveyou: thank you!

 

[I'mjazzed]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 2m2 minutes ago
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Catatonia - JH a- “kind of tired immobility” lying down & can’t get up. Up to go to bathroom - eat, didn’t wet bed

BBM~ I kind of have that right now.. ; )

 

[zoey]

Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 1m1 minute ago
JH as a kid never thought he'd fall in love #theatershooting #theatertrial

 

[zoey]

Larry Ryckman ‏@larryryckman · 1m1 minute ago
JH says he "resisted" the idea of falling in love. He broke a pact he made as a kid to not fall in love. #theatershooting

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 30s31 seconds ago
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JH resisted falling in love. He made a pact with himself as a kid he wouldn’t

 

[zoey]

Jen's Trial Diaries ‏@TrialDiariesJ · 52s53 seconds ago
JH says he's resisted falling in love #theatershooting #theatertrial

 

[zoey]

BBM~ I kind of have that right now.. ; )

just from listening or are you sick?

 

[LyndyLoo]

So now he equates having sex ( biology) means "Falling in Love"..This guy is truly talking like a juvenile...SMH..
Having intercourse does NOT mean Love..Ouyvie...Master-bate ( never made a pact to not do that)...He has absolutely no understanding of WHAT LOVE REALLY IS!! does he?.. Could explain why he doesn't value anyone beyond himself..."Circled the wagons" in his head it seems way back when !!

 

[zoey]

The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Felt guilty about breaking that pact he made in childhood

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 1m1 minute ago
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Reid: How does that pact stay strong as young adult?

JH - I didn’t rationalize

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The Gold Patrol™ ‏@thegoldpatrol · 43s44 seconds ago
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Reid: We love our dogs, you lost your dog. You say you’ll never love again.

JH - You had to already love your dog