*DEVELOPING*CO Shooting at Movie Theater #1

[shadowraiths]

Motive still a blank in Aurora shooter's story link )
By Joel Achenbach
Washington Post, Saturday, July 21, 10:45 AM

If police have discovered the motive for the Colorado movie theater rampage, they haven’t revealed it. Motive remains a missing piece of the terrible story of the Aurora massacre.

All such crimes can be described as senseless, or as the manifestation of evil, but what unfolded Friday at the midnight showing of the new Batman movie was something that so far lacks even a madman’s explanation.

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Police say the killer at the movie theater had a small arsenal of weapons and a massive amount of ammunition, and he evidently wanted to kill as many innocent people as possible, as dramatically as possible.

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The picture is likely to become clearer as investigators obtain more information about the suspect, but for the moment, the motive remains speculative, something inferred from the gunman’s actions more than from anything he communicated directly.

“Mass-shooting cases have the common motive of an attacker seeking immortality,” said Michael Welner, a forensic psychiatrist who is chairman of the Forensic Panel in New York. “Mass shootings are invariably, invariably carried out by people who have had high self-esteem. They are people who had high expectations of themselves.”​

 

[mysterygirl]

You hunt them when they do a home invasion of your house and want to rape your teenage daughter....




USATODAY.com - Police in some areas see increase in home ...

The slayings of seven people during a home-invasion robbery in Indianapolis last week spotlights a trend in several cities around the nation: This terrifying crime is on the rise. It's difficult to quantify the increase because such robberies aren't a separate crime category that the ...

usatoday.com/news/nation/2006-06-07-home-invasions_x.htm
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The reason some people have never picked up a gun or intended to is because someone else has been willing to..............

It's a privilege of the protected.

 

[panthera]

When i was a kid there were many theatre workers patrolling the aisles and stationed at the exits. They had flashlights to escort people to seats and tell kids to stop throwing popcorn etc. Even these measure wouldn`t have stopped him. He likely would have picked a different venue. I do hope extra safety in Theatres is put in place. If people stay away in fear he wins.

He had originally entered the theater as a patron, then went out the emergency exit to his car to suit up and get the weapons, and was able to return to the theater through the same door. There should be some way of ensuring an emergency exit door closes once someone is outside, and not able to be propped open so that someone can re-enter through it.

MOO

 

[wishuwerehere]

He had originally entered the theater as a patron, then went out the emergency exit to his car to suit up and get the weapons, and was able to return to the theater through the same door. There should be some way of ensuring an emergency exit door closes once someone is outside, and not able to be propped open so that someone can re-enter through it.

MOO

Or if you exit through an emergency door, an alarm should go off.

jmo

 

[ggg]

The reason some people have never picked up a gun or intended to is because someone else has been willing to..............

It's a privilege of the protected.

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.
They sure stopped Jimmy from shooting seventy-some people last night, eh?
That was with the station three blocks away, and every hip young moviegoer in the $12 seats with an iPhone in their pocket with 911 on speed-dial...

 

[Bravo]

I know home invasions happen ggg. Luckily where i live crime is very very low. Break ins are when someone isn`t home and if you are they run off. One home invasion here where they stole paintings and left. Nobody was harmed. Murders are not committed by a random person etc. etc. I am not ignorant to the fact it may never happen. I just have other lines of Defense for protection and an assault weapon is not one of them. I have had to call Police observing kids breaking into a neighbor's garage. I would say response time was less than 30 seconds with 4 cars.

 

[mysterygirl]

I am not for or against guns. I would imagine that if someone had had a concealed weapon at this theater, tried to use it, it would have only added to the chaos. It was dark, there was smoke everywhere and the gunman was covered in head-to-toe gear to protect himself. Maybe it would have enraged him further. Also, the person trying to protect everyone with his or her concealed weapon may have shot others in the confusion because of all the smoke, noise etc. Again, I am not saying guns are good or bad. Where I live, our mayor basically said to cut the budget on robberies and there would be no police investigations. Well it was a free for all. Suddenly our robberies went up and they became very violent too; pistol-whipping people in the head. Luckily for us, our new mayor stepped in and put cops on the home invasions again and our robberies went down. I have to say that if I felt vulnerable, and robberies continued to increase, I might invest in a gun. I have never used one and would like to remain gun-free but I can see things changing. It is a scary world we live in.

All valid points.

BUT.................I think this body armor deal is misleading people to think this man was invincible.

If you hit someone with a shot ....a 45 or a 357...............in full armor..........they will fall.

He is not a human tank.

That creates windows of opportunities.

Would it be worth it? I don't know..........maybe, maybe not. Someone or two could have then tackled him. I have a feeling he would go down pretty easily if he didn't have the advantage.

Look at people who throw themselves on grenades.......

People that took out the shoebomber even though he had explosives.

In no way am I blaming victims either............I guess I'm looking to the future.

 

[Zoe Bogart]

I watched the bombs being detonated just now (ch 9 KUSA), and after seeing the explosions and the amount of fire involved, I hope they charge that "person" with many more counts of attempted murder. The lives of everyone in his apartment building were in serious danger. The carnage could have been so much worse.

One bomb exploded like a mushroom of fire. It was huge, another didn't quite look as bad on explosion but it burned longer and more violently.

The guy's actions are beyond evil.

 

[JBean]

opening a thread # 2 shortly

 

[sfbaynancydrew]

It bugs me that no one has noticed on that alleged "adult friend finder" profile that his birthdate is incorrect. His real birthday is 12/13/87, not 12/10/87. Either that or he purposely used the wrong info. Unless it wasn't him and someone just guessing. I don't know.

Edited to add that I acquired the info from: http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com

I have a subscription.

 

[panthera]

Or if you exit through an emergency door, an alarm should go off.

jmo

Exactly - it should be used in an emergency only, not for easy access to the parking lot.

MOO

 

[mysterygirl]

When seconds count, the police are minutes away.
They sure stopped Jimmy from shooting seventy-some people last night, eh?
That was with the station three blocks away, and every hip young moviegoer in the $12 seats with an iPhone in their pocket with 911 on speed-dial...

Absolutely!

My best friend walked out of her bedroom one night to find a man in a ski mask standing in her kitchen.

She quickly closed her bedroom door and yelled she was armed with cops on the way.................her brother lives next door and is a cop!

But in those LOOOONG seconds they took to get there she said thank god she had a gun...........if he came through the 2 doors she locked she was going to shoot.......

He didn't. He hauled butt. I guess he believed her.

 

[mysterygirl]

It bugs me that no one has noticed on that alleged "adult friend finder" profile that his birthdate is incorrect. His real birthday is 12/13/87, not 12/10/87. Either that or he purposely used the wrong info. Unless it wasn't him and someone just guessing. I don't know.

Edited to add that I acquired the info from: http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com

I have a subscription.

And his height is off too.

Maybe he wanted to alter his stats slightly....

 

[shadowraiths]

I must say...

I am quite impressed with the Aurora PD and their handling of this case. Esp their handling of the booby-trapped apartment. Hats off to them, and those who are working with them, to not only keep people safe and disarm the apartment but to do so in such a way as to preserve as much evidence as possible. From everything I've seen, their professionalism shines. And, of course, hats off to the men and women first responders at the theater, hospital staff, and other patron heroes. As tragic as this case is, I am gently reminded that the human spirit does indeed shine.

 

[JBean]

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