wonderllama
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After listening to the very excellent program on WSRadio this week, I've started to piece together some things in my brain with respect to Dr.Wecht's theory of the sex game gone wrong, strangulation first, whack to the head second theory.
I needed to try and sort out what we know and how it could fit in with the story.
Keep in mind, this isn't necessarily my theory, but I wanted to try to grasp hold of it...and it seems to fit.
Some important things to remember.
If we are to accept this version of what happened, it means that JR's recollection of events is the one with the most untruths in it. One can assume that PR's lies start somewhere later in the night.
Okay, we're told that JBR was asleep and JR put her to bed.
But we were also told that JR read to her, so the inconsistencies begin immediately.
According to BPD Detective Linda Arndt, John Ramsey said JBR "had last been seen by her father, John Ramsey, at approximately 2200 hours".
So we have JR being the last to see her alive - therefore, he's in control of the timing, he's calling the shots.
Now the one item I've always been interested in is the Pineapple.
For their story to work, JBR has to be asleep - if she's asleep, in their minds, it gets them off the hook. In THEIR minds. So she has to be asleep.
Except, there's the pineapple - probably innocent enough, but it upsets their story and so it's handballed to an intruder.
I'm suggesting either -
1. She ate pineapple before going to bed. (my preferred option, fits with digestion time)
2. She was indeed asleep, but got up and ate pineapple.
BR is in bed, PR is in bed, JR is not.
JR & JBR are in the kitchen.
They head to the basement for JR's sex game.
The items purchased (rope/string etc) earlier were not for a planned killing, but for an escalation of the sex games which had recently begun. It's the way this crap works. Start off small, slowly do more until you see what you can get away with.
Shoplifters work that way, bag snatchers work that way, rapists work that way, murderers work that way, serial killers work that way.
Even a kid sneaking chocolates from the pantry works that way.
People doing something they know they shouldn't be doing start small and escalate. Fact.
So JR has his new "kit", but he's a beginner, hence the snapping off of the paint brush to twist.
As Dr.Wecht suggested, something went wrong...choking happened too soon, too fast, too PERMANENT. Nobody (sorry to be crude) got their rocks off yet. Suddenly an "innocent" sex game has gone wrong thanks to the amateurish efforts of JR.
While this is happening, PR realises JR is missing.
I'm suggesting either -
1. She had her suspicions something had been going on with JR, either because of the bedwetting/soiling or just general female intuition.
2. She wondered where he might be and didn't even check on JBR, but was searching for JR.
She gets to the kitchen. Hears something in the basement, flashlight is in the kitchen, grabs it. Or maybe the flashlight was brought down from upstairs? My wife keeps one by the bed, so you never know. She passes by the basement entry before having to reach the kitchen, so it may have been she heard something before reaching the kitchen.
Either way, she heads downstairs and stumbles across JR and the now strangled JBR. Well I'm guessing the you know what hits the fan. She would have grabbed JBR and shaken her, as no doubt would JR.
No response. In their minds, JR has killed her.
Abuse, crying, trauma sets in. There would be some time before composure is regained to any extent.
BR is asleep.
JR, PR and the almost deceased JBR are in the basement, probably outside the room she was found in - after all, it was cold and dingy, not really where you want to (again, sorry for crudeness) pleasure yourself.
This would explain the urine on the floor. She died there.
After a period of time - JR/PR realise this will destroy everything they have worked for...their position, their family, their name - their life.
Plan A begins. Someone else did this.
It's going to be a half-arsed plan because this was unintended, unplanned, and most importantly, they don't know what the hell they are doing.
Only way to consider the plan is to reference experiences we have had or have read/seen.
This explains the terrible over the top and wordy nature of the ransom note. It explains the cliches and it explains the excess of irrelevant and misleading information. It also explains the "quick, think of an amount" nature of the $118,000. People say it wasn't exactly the same as JR's bonus, but if you won $1,145,234...would you say "I won $1Million" or would you think of the exact amount?
You'd round.
So the note is written, the scenario is set.
At some stage JR grabs the flashlight and smacks JBR over the head.
He is stronger, and more importantly, he has more to lose at this stage.
PR would be doing the motherly thing, trying to make her baby comfortable in death.
So all this could quite easily have taken 5+ hours to sort out.
You don't just kill someone and then go back to bed.
So neither of them slept.
JR washed up, PR composed herself and finished setting the scene...maybe she told JR to get out as she wanted some time with her baby.
Part 2 of the plan commences when the 911 call is made.
BR is awake but told to go back to bed. He does.
JR's and PR's separation makes sense after the police arrive. There is a level of contempt, guilt, and partners in crime often 'go their separate ways', so this was a variation on this.
At some stage, JR perhaps realises something which may have been left behind or simply starts to worry about the scene. Heads downstairs. This is when he is missing for a short time, or rather out of sight of the police for a period of time. He comes up, is more agitated either by what he has had to do or simply due to being down their again and the reality of the situation playing on his mind.
Their friends are their to give comfort...after all, THEY NEED IT!!!
PR is in a bad way.
Over the next few days she is sedated, hysterical etc....and we know why.
And as with many crimes, the way to deal with accidents is in your mind to deny them *cough* Casey Anthony *cough*.
It's a very common thing.
The rest makes sense. The non-cooperation, the muddying the waters...the whole lot. They are trying to preserve what is left of what JR nearly destroyed thanks to his sexual urges.
PR stood by her man...she had to after she helped him cover up the death of their daughter.
As much as we're disgusted by both of them, I now lean towards PR only being complicit in the cover-up. Probably not to begin with, she probably wanted JBR saved or taken to the hospital - after all, she seemed quite concerned over time with her visits to the pediatrician. But JR is a businessman, a successful one. He got what he wanted and that was redirected blame and a wife willing to go along with him.
He doesn't search for the killer, he refers to the killer as a monster etc.
He would have felt guilt to begin with, but he now has distanced himself from the event and he would need to have done so in order to survive.
I needed to try and sort out what we know and how it could fit in with the story.
Keep in mind, this isn't necessarily my theory, but I wanted to try to grasp hold of it...and it seems to fit.
Some important things to remember.
If we are to accept this version of what happened, it means that JR's recollection of events is the one with the most untruths in it. One can assume that PR's lies start somewhere later in the night.
Okay, we're told that JBR was asleep and JR put her to bed.
But we were also told that JR read to her, so the inconsistencies begin immediately.
According to BPD Detective Linda Arndt, John Ramsey said JBR "had last been seen by her father, John Ramsey, at approximately 2200 hours".
So we have JR being the last to see her alive - therefore, he's in control of the timing, he's calling the shots.
Now the one item I've always been interested in is the Pineapple.
For their story to work, JBR has to be asleep - if she's asleep, in their minds, it gets them off the hook. In THEIR minds. So she has to be asleep.
Except, there's the pineapple - probably innocent enough, but it upsets their story and so it's handballed to an intruder.
I'm suggesting either -
1. She ate pineapple before going to bed. (my preferred option, fits with digestion time)
2. She was indeed asleep, but got up and ate pineapple.
BR is in bed, PR is in bed, JR is not.
JR & JBR are in the kitchen.
They head to the basement for JR's sex game.
The items purchased (rope/string etc) earlier were not for a planned killing, but for an escalation of the sex games which had recently begun. It's the way this crap works. Start off small, slowly do more until you see what you can get away with.
Shoplifters work that way, bag snatchers work that way, rapists work that way, murderers work that way, serial killers work that way.
Even a kid sneaking chocolates from the pantry works that way.
People doing something they know they shouldn't be doing start small and escalate. Fact.
So JR has his new "kit", but he's a beginner, hence the snapping off of the paint brush to twist.
As Dr.Wecht suggested, something went wrong...choking happened too soon, too fast, too PERMANENT. Nobody (sorry to be crude) got their rocks off yet. Suddenly an "innocent" sex game has gone wrong thanks to the amateurish efforts of JR.
While this is happening, PR realises JR is missing.
I'm suggesting either -
1. She had her suspicions something had been going on with JR, either because of the bedwetting/soiling or just general female intuition.
2. She wondered where he might be and didn't even check on JBR, but was searching for JR.
She gets to the kitchen. Hears something in the basement, flashlight is in the kitchen, grabs it. Or maybe the flashlight was brought down from upstairs? My wife keeps one by the bed, so you never know. She passes by the basement entry before having to reach the kitchen, so it may have been she heard something before reaching the kitchen.
Either way, she heads downstairs and stumbles across JR and the now strangled JBR. Well I'm guessing the you know what hits the fan. She would have grabbed JBR and shaken her, as no doubt would JR.
No response. In their minds, JR has killed her.
Abuse, crying, trauma sets in. There would be some time before composure is regained to any extent.
BR is asleep.
JR, PR and the almost deceased JBR are in the basement, probably outside the room she was found in - after all, it was cold and dingy, not really where you want to (again, sorry for crudeness) pleasure yourself.
This would explain the urine on the floor. She died there.
After a period of time - JR/PR realise this will destroy everything they have worked for...their position, their family, their name - their life.
Plan A begins. Someone else did this.
It's going to be a half-arsed plan because this was unintended, unplanned, and most importantly, they don't know what the hell they are doing.
Only way to consider the plan is to reference experiences we have had or have read/seen.
This explains the terrible over the top and wordy nature of the ransom note. It explains the cliches and it explains the excess of irrelevant and misleading information. It also explains the "quick, think of an amount" nature of the $118,000. People say it wasn't exactly the same as JR's bonus, but if you won $1,145,234...would you say "I won $1Million" or would you think of the exact amount?
You'd round.
So the note is written, the scenario is set.
At some stage JR grabs the flashlight and smacks JBR over the head.
He is stronger, and more importantly, he has more to lose at this stage.
PR would be doing the motherly thing, trying to make her baby comfortable in death.
So all this could quite easily have taken 5+ hours to sort out.
You don't just kill someone and then go back to bed.
So neither of them slept.
JR washed up, PR composed herself and finished setting the scene...maybe she told JR to get out as she wanted some time with her baby.
Part 2 of the plan commences when the 911 call is made.
BR is awake but told to go back to bed. He does.
JR's and PR's separation makes sense after the police arrive. There is a level of contempt, guilt, and partners in crime often 'go their separate ways', so this was a variation on this.
At some stage, JR perhaps realises something which may have been left behind or simply starts to worry about the scene. Heads downstairs. This is when he is missing for a short time, or rather out of sight of the police for a period of time. He comes up, is more agitated either by what he has had to do or simply due to being down their again and the reality of the situation playing on his mind.
Their friends are their to give comfort...after all, THEY NEED IT!!!
PR is in a bad way.
Over the next few days she is sedated, hysterical etc....and we know why.
And as with many crimes, the way to deal with accidents is in your mind to deny them *cough* Casey Anthony *cough*.
It's a very common thing.
The rest makes sense. The non-cooperation, the muddying the waters...the whole lot. They are trying to preserve what is left of what JR nearly destroyed thanks to his sexual urges.
PR stood by her man...she had to after she helped him cover up the death of their daughter.
As much as we're disgusted by both of them, I now lean towards PR only being complicit in the cover-up. Probably not to begin with, she probably wanted JBR saved or taken to the hospital - after all, she seemed quite concerned over time with her visits to the pediatrician. But JR is a businessman, a successful one. He got what he wanted and that was redirected blame and a wife willing to go along with him.
He doesn't search for the killer, he refers to the killer as a monster etc.
He would have felt guilt to begin with, but he now has distanced himself from the event and he would need to have done so in order to survive.