GUILTY GA - Lydia Ivanditti, 63, dead in bathtub, Eatonton, 2 Dec 2016

[dancinunderthemoon]

This is the info on LI's former business partner from above link. Apparently he is currently incarcerated.

"STATE OF GEORGIA - INCARCERATION HISTORY
INCARCERATION BEGIN: 02/18/2016*
INCARCERATION END: ACTIVE*"

WOW, marijuana, what'd he have 10 tons? more than meets the eye here Im sure, at any rate, he's incarcerated and who would want Ms Lydia dead? Is this bathtub drowning like a "personal" type murder? Wonder if she knew something? Wonder if it was a lovers quarrel, you know that was mentinoed in the Dermond case as well, speculating on possibilities, which I doubt for them but with LI, sortof tumultuous love life it SEEMS and then her partner/lover(?) in prison, she's not, nor the mcallister partner ..........maybe ole TDH was on parole at the time he was indicted for gambling and drugs the cause for his sentencing? Be glad to find out more, still hope there was a connection to the D's credit card theft......only hope for the D's is something like this I guess and certainly hoping they have evidence on the scene of LI's killer.......so sad, yes prominant citizens.......and whonos, I think Mr D played golf or used to? He walked alot someone said, what was it after knee surgery?? IDK about community affairs

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

http://www.lakeoconeebreeze.net/new...cle_f1786342-396c-11e4-8eb1-bf69731e1a03.html

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Holland and Huggins Holdings LLC ......incorporated Sept 2013.......dissolved Feb 2016

https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_ga/13451842

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Stephen Thomas Museum buckhead, bd of directors 2013/14.....http://gaartsnetwork.org/wordpress1...4/12/PressRelease_Joint_Statement_Oct2013.pdf

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

zoom info
President, Stephen Thomas Museum Buckhead, ...LI address for bs still walnut st, Eatonton, so still in the area 2013/14
http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Lydia-Ivanditti/1835671909
last updated nov 2013

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Do these links work for anyone? they dont work for me

I copied Treelights post from the Dermond thread. The links no longer work, but Treelights quotes the link. Notice Plaza Art Center. Was LI the director in 2014?

Tree lights' post on 05/07/2014:

Looks like Shirley played Bridge.
http://www.lakeoconeebreeze.net/loca...Bridge-results

http://www.msgr.com/news/community/a...a4bcf887a.html
"Posted: Thursday, March 27, 2014 12:00 am"
This last link is recently, from March 18, 2014, it lists Shirley....
"EDBC meets each Tuesday and Thursday at 12:30 p.m. at The Plaza Arts Center, 305 N. Madison Ave., in downtown Eatonton."

It also lists Shirley's telephone number, to call her, if a person wants to know more about the club.
Last edited by Treelights; 05-07-2014 at 01:06 PM.

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Robert Holland of Eatonton a possible relative of Tommy Holland of tulsa OK

Dont know what I'm looking for......... Recap

May 2010
Lydia I listed as Director of Eatontons Plaza arts Center
http://onlineathens.com/stories/052910/opi_646125922.shtml#.WFP98VMrKM8

One of these the Plaza or the Foundation that owned or managed the Plaza LI was listed as OWNER

Georgia community arts network
LI listed as coordinator
http://www.zoominfo.com/CachedPage/...5T14:25:17&firstName=Lydia&lastName=Ivanditti



this was a press release Oct 29 2013
Dated for 2013/14 Lydia I was listed on bd of directors for Stephen Thomas Museum
http://gaartsnetwork.org/wordpress1...4/12/PressRelease_Joint_Statement_Oct2013.pdf



Updated Nov 2013
Lydia I is listed as President of Stephen Thomas Museum…here
http://www.zoominfo.com/p/Lydia-Ivanditti/1835671909
LI address was still listed as her walnut st address

Started Holland and Holdings 2013 dissolved feb 2016 Link on page 3 here I think

Stated in this article dated Sept 2014 announcing new manager, that LI opened the Cashmere 9 months ago, Feb 2014
http://www.lakeoconeebreeze.net/new...cle_f1786342-396c-11e4-8eb1-bf69731e1a03.html

TDH incarcerated
Crime commit date for TDH Aug 2014-association Cashmere
INCARCERATION BEGIN: 02/18/2016
http://www.dcor.state.ga.us/GDC/OffenderQuery/jsp/OffQryRedirector.jsp


Sept 2014
Announcing changes to Cashmere Lounge Eatonton
New Manager (rumor has it he was sex offender, did not find that on sex offender site)
http://www.lakeoconeebreeze.net/new...cle_f1786342-396c-11e4-8eb1-bf69731e1a03.html

This site shows a relative of Tommy Holland of Tulsa OK as a Robert Holland of EATONTON GA

Don’t see where she might be connected to the Plaza Arts Center in Eatonton
In 2013 or 2014 unless however she is still on the bd or owner


Plaza arts theatre MURDER MYSTERY DINNER
June 2015
http://events.r20.constantcontact.c...trant?llr=njs548dab&oeidk=a07eayyasrdb9d0a313

Seems like she disappeared to ATL after the charges at Cashmere for herself TDH and Mcallister which was end of 2014?

So according to the article on her death, she was probably in ATL for past 1 or 2 years Max, as she is still involved with Cashmere in Sept 2014 according to above article

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

from btsctr on Shirley dermond............:"fraudulent charges (7 in total - Macys.com and Amazon.com) were made between Sept. 20 through Sept. 23, 2012 to their American Express account. It was a $2000 4-day shopping spree. The Dermonds reported it to PCSO on Oct 24, 2012. It didn't appear in the local paper until Nov 8, 2012"

So this was while LI was director of Plaza Arts center and Sills went to OK in questioning for the Dermond's murders in 2014/15....where TOmmy Holland is from and moved back to and was incarcerated in 2016, who was living with LI in 2013 while he managed her business Cashmere...................I dont see him connected to the Plaza Arts center but dont know when he and LI got together but since they were together in 2013 for the nightclub clearly they were together in 2012 or earlier..............He lived with her.....wonder when he moved into Walnut St? Just trying to get my head wrapped around it, Its very interesting Sills went to OK for questioning in the Dermonds murders..........who was he investigating?

 

[Bootsctr]

Sept 2014
Announcing changes to Cashmere Lounge Eatonton
New Manager (rumor has it he was sex offender, did not find that on sex offender site)
http://www.lakeoconeebreeze.net/news...9731e1a03.html

I found him. INCARCERATION DETAILS

MAJOR OFFENSE: INCEST
MOST RECENT INSTITUTION: WHEELER CORR FACILITY
MAX POSSIBLE RELEASE DATE: 08/31/2021

 

[Bootsctr]

Do these links work for anyone? they dont work for me

No, but I'm going back in threads (#7) July 8 right now and I am finding links that still work.

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

No, but I'm going back in threads (#7) July 8 right now and I am finding links that still work.

hmm, that's weird,

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

whats interesting is that Aug 21 2014 Judge cline jr of greensboro ga near Eatonton committed SUICIDE........... Aug 15 2014 was the "crime commit date" where LI, TDH and MCallister were found under surveillance at Cashmere and charged with Drug possession and gambling..........of course the GBI confirmed he committed suicide

As well, May2 2014 Dermonds murdered, May 8 Real Estate Agent drowned off her own dock, it was confirmed a drowning and no foul play

And the dermonds passed on the 2nd May and LI passed on the 2nd Dec , different years but they ran in the same circle

Just noting how all these occurred in 2014, Putnam Co or were connected to Putnam in some way and living nearby, except LI, 2016 death

maybe nothing but very very odd, these people aren't just ****s (street gangs) on the streets...............well maybe one

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Sept 2014
Announcing changes to Cashmere Lounge Eatonton
New Manager (rumor has it he was sex offender, did not find that on sex offender site)
http://www.lakeoconeebreeze.net/news...9731e1a03.html

I found him. INCARCERATION DETAILS

MAJOR OFFENSE: INCEST
MOST RECENT INSTITUTION: WHEELER CORR FACILITY
MAX POSSIBLE RELEASE DATE: 08/31/2021

I didnt realize he was incarcerated!

What in the world, LI announced him as new manager in Sept 2016 by the end of Sept he's in carcerated again and was just released in 2013

WHY?? JUST WHY??

STATE OF GEORGIA - INCARCERATION HISTORY

INCARCERATION BEGIN: 09/27/2016
INCARCERATION END: ACTIVE
INCARCERATION BEGIN: 08/11/2009
INCARCERATION END: 04/10/2013

SO I guess we can surmise that this ended it for LI and Cashmere as the place to be in 2016

I havent seen anything that stated Cashmere was closing it s doors, it must have just closed quietly after her second manager issues

So now what did she know? and on whom?

Im wondering like someone mentioned earlier in the thread, about adult onset dementia or alzheimers, but rumors are not in her favor of LI but seems like she was doing oik according to her career track record....what in the world happened?

 

[Bootsctr]

Maybe I'm down the rabbit hole, but I see she announced him in September 2014.

“I am also pleased to announce Matthew Shields as my new general manager and Mike McKelvey is returning to be our head cook,” said Ivanditti.

http://www.lakeoconeebreeze.net/new...cle_f1786342-396c-11e4-8eb1-bf69731e1a03.html

She has a lot of friends. This is the public FB page of the Plaza Arts Center where she was worked. https://www.facebook.com/ThePlazaArtsCenters?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab&pnref=friends.all

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Maybe I'm down the rabbit hole, but I see she announced him in September 2014.



http://www.lakeoconeebreeze.net/new...cle_f1786342-396c-11e4-8eb1-bf69731e1a03.html

She has a lot of friends. This is the public FB page of the Plaza Arts Center where she was worked. https://www.facebook.com/ThePlazaArtsCenters?fref=pb&hc_location=friends_tab&pnref=friends.all

woops, you are right, sept 2014, had too many dates and peopel in my mind, everything seemed to be going awry in 2014 but he had just been released in 2013, then I guess he was convicted on more by 2016 and incarcerated

She must've quietly closed at end of 2014, I never saw anything on the closing and the Huggins and Holland LLC was dissolved way later in 2016 IIRC........

 

[Bootsctr]

The only OK connection I am seeing right now is through Holland, but there is more than one Holland that was a friend of Ms. Ivanditti's. She was well connected. There are Florida connections too, and I believe investigators also went to Florida during the early part of the investigation. I'll see if I can dig up that link. :lookingitup:

 

[1&2&3]

Just to say Thank You to my fellow sleuthers who are so very dedicated and good at what you do!

I really appreciate it, as I am sure many others do too. :loveyou:

Here's hoping there will be a break in the Dermonds case.

 

[Bootsctr]

Okay, I had it bassackwards... The Florida detectives came to Eatonton at Sills' request:

Sills recently called on the expertise of two detectives from the Jacksonville, Florida, sheriff's office's cold-case squad. Sills roomed with Jacksonville Sheriff John H. Rutherford when the two attended the FBI Academy.

The Florida detectives spent a day and a half in Eatonton examining crime-scene photographs and other materials, Sills said.

http://www.covnews.com/archives/54986/


Good to see you 1&2&3! Sure would love to see atthelake too!

 

[dancinunderthemoon]

Okay, I had it bassackwards... The Florida detectives came to Eatonton at Sills' request:

Sills recently called on the expertise of two detectives from the Jacksonville, Florida, sheriff's office's cold-case squad. Sills roomed with Jacksonville Sheriff John H. Rutherford when the two attended the FBI Academy.

The Florida detectives spent a day and a half in Eatonton examining crime-scene photographs and other materials, Sills said.

http://www.covnews.com/archives/54986/


Good to see you 1&2&3! Sure would love to see atthelake too!

I think that was for the Dermond's investigation?? I also looked up Vicki Stephens, the RE agent that drowned, what 6 days after the D's? She has some of the same friends as LI IIRC, I dont think she and LI were friends. I know it's all been "settled" on the Stephens drowning and the Judge Cline suicide, I just find it ALL VERY ODD, they were all prominent citizens, the only th..u..g... is the Cashmere crew and I dont know if LI is too but some dont speak too highly of her habits, I have no idea her personal affiars but WHY oh WHY get invovled with these guys, one got indicted and she went right into bs with a sex offender............they're all in jail and alive though, SMH...............I also keep thinking after the D's I was reading everone say, they'll strike again, then LI death so odd

 

[Bootsctr]

I think that was for the Dermond's investigation?? I also looked up Vicki Stephens, the RE agent that drowned, what 6 days after the D's? She has some of the same friends as LI IIRC, I dont think she and LI were friends. I know it's all been "settled" on the Stephens drowning and the Judge Cline suicide, I just find it ALL VERY ODD, they were all prominent citizens, the only th..u..g... is the Cashmere crew and I dont know if LI is too but some dont speak too highly of her habits, I have no idea her personal affiars but WHY oh WHY get invovled with these guys, one got indicted and she went right into bs with a sex offender............they're all in jail and alive though, SMH...............I also keep thinking after the D's I was reading everone say, they'll strike again, then LI death so odd

If they are related, and 2 are incarcerated, then I would hope someone would not be afraid to come forward with a description of the man seen at the Dermonds house in May of 2014.

Did someone attempt to stage LI's death to look like she fell in the bathroom? Did she suffer blunt force trauma to the head just like Mrs. D?

There is a best defense move ever.