HokeyPokey143
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***How would these "strangers" known to have called your house to find Robert for this job? Was your number listed in an advertisement for his landscaping business? Did he have business cards? Did he advertise online, newspaper, or other means...signs on the sides of the road, etc? Robert had been putting in job applications all over the place. He knew that he would have to start paying child support soon, and didn’t want to have to worry about being behind. So, people knew he was looking, the ex knew he was looking also, and what type of work he did. Robert had talked to the ex Friday night, March 11th. He asked he to come to Chattanooga, to met him there, because he wanted to see the girls. She told him no. Then later, he told her he wanted to come home to her and the girls. That she and the girls could come pick him up after he was done working, and he would have money then too. She agreed to that………………… (I won’t deny, that during that phone call, Robert seemed determined/desperate, almost like he had to go. I knew he was missing the girls terribly, and figured that was the reasoning behind it. We thought that the whole getting back with the ex thing, was just a way for Robert to visit with the girls. Robert and I even got into an argument over the phone, because I told him the job didn’t sound right, and she has to let him visit with the girls, he don’t have to get back with her just to do so). Later on late that evening, she called me, to tell me she didn’t want him there, and she was not picking him up. She laughed because she thought it was funny. I called Robert to tell him, and we got on 3-way with her, and she told him what she told me. He seemed almost to be crying, telling her how he ‘loved’ her, and it’s killing him to be away from Cali & LaChlynd. Somewhere, she was able to find humor in all of this, yet still be cold, almost like hell-bent in making him more upset, and prove to him that she had the control. Robert left to go to the ‘job’ anyway, hoping she would change her mind. He even wired money to her, for his daughter, from Wal-mart, on the night he disappeared.How would these "strangers" known to have called your house to find Robert for this job? Was your number listed in an advertisement for his landscaping business? Did he have business cards? Did he advertise online, newspaper, or other means...signs on the sides of the road, etc?
It does sound like his ex is involved in some way, but LE is correct in saying they don't have anything to go on with her. You can't obtain phone records or other evidence without a search warrant which they cannot obtain without probable cause. Since she was living out of state, it would take a witness naming her as a co-conspirator in this particular case or something for LE to become involved..(At least, to my knowledge which is limited.) If she denied being the person that LE wanted to talk to...isn't much they could do in that respect either. Their hands were rather tied because they can't cross those lines.
However, if you have proof your PI was conversing and hiding evidence perhaps...you might be able to go through other channels to secure his records. Check in your state to see what recourse you have against bad PIs. This might require you filing a civil action against him...if applicable. Talk to an atty on this one. This could be the break you need to involve the ex-wife, too. I don't know if you have any such recourse, but it is worth a shot.
It sounds like that "job" sounds too good to be true. He should have questioned it at the time, but I am sure whomever called knew he would fall for such a ruse. It is too bad he didn't write anything down..or did he? Did you keep a pad by the phone for such? Could he have written down something about it and ripped it off to take with him? (Did he live with you, by the way? If not, where did he live and what was the area like?)
I know you won't like me saying this, but I am going to anyway. (You will find I am a bit blunt. Sorry, I don't mean disrespect, but someone has to be objective and ask the hard questions or look at other scenarios.) Sometimes, we don't know our siblings or family members as well as think. It could be Robert was saying this about the "job" in order to explain him coming back in four days with such a "windfall" and he was involved in something sinister. Maybe there was something in the other boys' stories which did connect them. Drugs or robbery would certainly fit into this category to obtain that kind of fast cash. So would "doing a job" for another person...if this person had authority/held threats over them.
***However, if you have proof your PI was conversing and hiding evidence perhaps He wasn’t a PI, like you would go out an hire, he was the one assigned to Robert’s case, through the sheriff dept. There are a lot of suspicious players through our LE, AND the GBI. Where we live, our county covers up a lot of ‘wrong doings’ with the PD. They are actually under investigation right now, while some are in Federal prisons, and other’s like the head of narcotics, are awaiting trail inside the jail. They protect only their own.
***I am sure whomever called knew he would fall for such a ruse. Robert believed the best in everyone, and took things for face value pretty much. If you have never screwed him over, then he had no reason not to trust you, and believe you.
*** Did you keep a pad by the phone for such? No, we did not.
***Did he live with you, by the way? Yes, he was living at my house, from the time he separated from his wife which was around the very end of December 2004, to the very beginning of January 2005. He stayed with me, up until he left in March. The neighborhood, wasn’t the best, it was far from it. We kept to ourselves mostly, due to the way the area was.
***I know you won't like me saying this, but I am going to anyway. Please don’t think that I am not open to other people’s versions, or ideals, or even opinions. I am not like that. This all has nothing to do with what I like, or don’t like. It’s about help finding my brother. I understood when allowing these post to be placed in order to gain help, that there may be scenarios that we have not thought of, and people can and will post their feelings and thoughts on the situation. That is why I am here. To be open minded, and hear out other peoples versions. J Believe me, after 2 ½ years go by, and nothing but a bunch of terrible stories, I am braced for about anything.
***Sometimes, we don't know our siblings or family members as well as think. I understand, and I pray that I didn’t know Robert at all, that I, and the rest of the family only thought we knew him. That he could show us a side to him, that wasn’t real, in order to disappear. Because not really knowing him, and us being fooled, is still better than what we fear.
***order to explain him coming back in four days with such a "windfall" and he was involved in something sinister. Something sinister, I would believe, something evil even. Robert, we fear, got caught up in something that he had no ideal how bad it was. Open to the ideal that we did know him very well…..Robert was very happy-go-lucky, all the time, and very seldom did hard knocks of life get to him. When life gave him lemons, or those around him, he always turned it into not lemonade, but kool-aide! He had just such a happy spirit inside him, that when he was around, he infected everyone!!! Life of the party is a HUGE understatement for him.
***Drugs or robbery would certainly fit into this category to obtain that kind of fast cash. So would "doing a job" for another person...if this person had authority/held threats over them. Robert did use drugs every once in a while, but selling them,…out of the question. Robbery, I only laugh now at that ideal, because he would have been busted flat out right then. He could not stop clowning around, long enough for something so serious. He would be trying to dance, and be all like ‘what’s up dawg?’ Threats was something that Robert put no value in, he just didn’t believe in them. Maybe it was because of his attitude toward life. He would say, threats are just people with nothing better to do, than run their mouths. That if someone was really going to be doing something, that for one, they wouldn’t air to the world, they wouldn’t have time for those types of games, they would just come up to you, by surprise, and actually do what all the other are only talking about. That was one reason he put no thought into the phone call about the ‘hit’.