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Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 2h2 hours ago
#BREAKING @vicenews: El Chapo's jury just asked to review transcripts of testimony by three major witnesses: Rey Zambada, Vicente Zambada, and Damaso Lopez. They also asked a question about drug murders that does not bode well for prosecutors. Jury seems nowhere near a verdict.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
Another crazy note from the jurors in the Chapo trial. I haven't said this yet, but this one does not look good for the government.
Emily PalmerVerified account @emilyepalmer 2h2 hours ago
After a silent morning, at 2:30 p.m. the jury requested full testimonial transcripts for three more witnesses in Chapo's case: Ray and Vicente Zambada and Dámaso López Núñez. That totals full testimonies for 5 of 14 star witnesses. (And six witnesses overall.)
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
The note had two parts: 1. Jurors asked for the ENTIRE testimony of three of the govt's chief witnesses: Rey Zambada; his nephew, Vicente Zambada; and Chapo's top lieutenant Damaso Lopez. That amounts to numerous days of testimony--so many it will take a while just to assemble it
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 2h2 hours ago
The jury's question: "If members of a drug cartel are killed by an opposing cartel for personal reasons, does that constitute a drug trafficking crime?"
The answer from the judge was no, if a killing was for "wholly personal reasons" it's not a drug trafficking crime.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
Even more ominous in some ways was Part 2 which read in full: "If members of a drug cartel are killed from an opposing cartel for personal reasons does that constitute as a drug trafficking crime?"
Emily PalmerVerified account @emilyepalmer 2h2 hours ago
The jury also had a question: "If members of a drug cartel are killed by an opposing cartel for personal reasons, does that constitute as a drug trafficking crime?" Answer: No, if "wholly" personal. (But a mixed bag of business and personal would still be a crime.)
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
This of course suggests that jurors have questions about one or more of the dozens of murders Chapo's been accused of ordering or committing.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 2h2 hours ago
Several of Chapo's alleged murders could be construed as personal. Most notably, the jury heard a lot of testimony about Rodolfo Carrillo Fuentes, the brother of Juarez Cartel leader Amado Carrillo. Several witnesses said he was killed for being disrespectful to Chapo.
Emily PalmerVerified account @emilyepalmer 1h1 hour ago
In total:
-Ray Zambada: 4 days
-Jorge Cifuentes: 3 days
-Vicente Zambada: 3 days
-Juan Aguayo: super short -Alex Cifuentes: 4 days
-Dámaso López Núñez: 3 days
The testimony comes in giant binders, without sufficient copies. Dramatic reading anyone?
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
One leaps to mind as possibly personal. In 2004, the govt says, Chapo had Rodolfo Carrillo Fuentes gunned down outside a movie theater in Culiacan. The murder followed failed attempts to reach a truce. At one point, Rodolfo is said to have refused to shake Chapo's hand. Personal?
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
After consulting with the parties, Judge Cogan instructed the jurors that a murder should not be thought of as a drug crime if it was committed "wholly for personal reasons" that weren't related to drug trafficking at all.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
It's also conceivable the killing of Juan Guzman Rocha, Chapo's cousin known as Juancho, could be thought of as personal. According to testimony, Chapo believed Juancho was a snitch. Is that a personal or a professional betrayal?
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
To return to the requested testimony, the jury has now asked for the ENTIRE testimonies of 5 of the govt's 14 cooperating witnesses. We don't know why or what they want to read over, but it is definitely unusual.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 2h2 hours ago
Rodolfo's murder in 2004 triggered a long-running war between the Sinaloa cartel and the Juarez cartel. We explain the background and the bloody fallout in episode 4 of our podcast:
EP 4: The Border
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
Rodolfo was "El Niño del Oro" — The Golden Boy. After his brother Amado died during plastic surgery, Rodolfo was the heir apparent to the family throne. We heard testimony that he controlled the city of Navolato, Sinaloa, and that his people were messing with Chapo's people.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
According to the testimony, El Mayo — who was close with the Carrillo Fuentes family — tried to broker a peace deal between Chapo and Rodolfo. But when Rodolfo arrived, he was rude to Chapo and refused to shake his hand.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
Chapo was pissed at Rodolfo over the handshake snub. Witnesses say there were a few more attempts at peace, but Rodolfo's men kept causing problems for Chapo in Navolato. Eventually, Chapo asked El Azul — the Sinaloa's arbiter — for permission to kill Rodolfo. It was granted.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
Several witnesses testified about how Chapo's hit squad attacked Rodolfo as he was leaving a movie theater in Culiacan. Rodolfo's wife was also gunned down. Rodolfo was guarded by federal police officers, and Mayo had to send reinforcements to help Chapo's men in the shootout.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
Several witnesses said Chapo, Mayo, and other cartel leaders were following Rodolfo's murder and the resulting shootout in real-time on CB radios. If the jury is just looking at the handshake snub, this killing could easily be construed as personal. Coldblooded, but personal.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
Here are Chapo's other alleged murder conspiracy victims. Of these, maybe Miguel Martinez Martinez and Ramon Arellano Felix could be construed as personal. The rest seem pretty clearly related to drug trafficking.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5717253-List-of-El-Chapo-s-alleged-murder-victims.html …
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#BREAKING @vicenews: El Chapo's jury just asked to review transcripts of testimony by three major witnesses: Rey Zambada, Vicente Zambada, and Damaso Lopez. They also asked a question about drug murders that does not bode well for prosecutors. Jury seems nowhere near a verdict.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
Another crazy note from the jurors in the Chapo trial. I haven't said this yet, but this one does not look good for the government.
Emily PalmerVerified account @emilyepalmer 2h2 hours ago
After a silent morning, at 2:30 p.m. the jury requested full testimonial transcripts for three more witnesses in Chapo's case: Ray and Vicente Zambada and Dámaso López Núñez. That totals full testimonies for 5 of 14 star witnesses. (And six witnesses overall.)
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
The note had two parts: 1. Jurors asked for the ENTIRE testimony of three of the govt's chief witnesses: Rey Zambada; his nephew, Vicente Zambada; and Chapo's top lieutenant Damaso Lopez. That amounts to numerous days of testimony--so many it will take a while just to assemble it
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 2h2 hours ago
The jury's question: "If members of a drug cartel are killed by an opposing cartel for personal reasons, does that constitute a drug trafficking crime?"
The answer from the judge was no, if a killing was for "wholly personal reasons" it's not a drug trafficking crime.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
Even more ominous in some ways was Part 2 which read in full: "If members of a drug cartel are killed from an opposing cartel for personal reasons does that constitute as a drug trafficking crime?"
Emily PalmerVerified account @emilyepalmer 2h2 hours ago
The jury also had a question: "If members of a drug cartel are killed by an opposing cartel for personal reasons, does that constitute as a drug trafficking crime?" Answer: No, if "wholly" personal. (But a mixed bag of business and personal would still be a crime.)
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
This of course suggests that jurors have questions about one or more of the dozens of murders Chapo's been accused of ordering or committing.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 2h2 hours ago
Several of Chapo's alleged murders could be construed as personal. Most notably, the jury heard a lot of testimony about Rodolfo Carrillo Fuentes, the brother of Juarez Cartel leader Amado Carrillo. Several witnesses said he was killed for being disrespectful to Chapo.
Emily PalmerVerified account @emilyepalmer 1h1 hour ago
In total:
-Ray Zambada: 4 days
-Jorge Cifuentes: 3 days
-Vicente Zambada: 3 days
-Juan Aguayo: super short -Alex Cifuentes: 4 days
-Dámaso López Núñez: 3 days
The testimony comes in giant binders, without sufficient copies. Dramatic reading anyone?
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
One leaps to mind as possibly personal. In 2004, the govt says, Chapo had Rodolfo Carrillo Fuentes gunned down outside a movie theater in Culiacan. The murder followed failed attempts to reach a truce. At one point, Rodolfo is said to have refused to shake Chapo's hand. Personal?
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
After consulting with the parties, Judge Cogan instructed the jurors that a murder should not be thought of as a drug crime if it was committed "wholly for personal reasons" that weren't related to drug trafficking at all.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
It's also conceivable the killing of Juan Guzman Rocha, Chapo's cousin known as Juancho, could be thought of as personal. According to testimony, Chapo believed Juancho was a snitch. Is that a personal or a professional betrayal?
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
To return to the requested testimony, the jury has now asked for the ENTIRE testimonies of 5 of the govt's 14 cooperating witnesses. We don't know why or what they want to read over, but it is definitely unusual.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 2h2 hours ago
Rodolfo's murder in 2004 triggered a long-running war between the Sinaloa cartel and the Juarez cartel. We explain the background and the bloody fallout in episode 4 of our podcast:
EP 4: The Border
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
Rodolfo was "El Niño del Oro" — The Golden Boy. After his brother Amado died during plastic surgery, Rodolfo was the heir apparent to the family throne. We heard testimony that he controlled the city of Navolato, Sinaloa, and that his people were messing with Chapo's people.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
According to the testimony, El Mayo — who was close with the Carrillo Fuentes family — tried to broker a peace deal between Chapo and Rodolfo. But when Rodolfo arrived, he was rude to Chapo and refused to shake his hand.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
Chapo was pissed at Rodolfo over the handshake snub. Witnesses say there were a few more attempts at peace, but Rodolfo's men kept causing problems for Chapo in Navolato. Eventually, Chapo asked El Azul — the Sinaloa's arbiter — for permission to kill Rodolfo. It was granted.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
Several witnesses testified about how Chapo's hit squad attacked Rodolfo as he was leaving a movie theater in Culiacan. Rodolfo's wife was also gunned down. Rodolfo was guarded by federal police officers, and Mayo had to send reinforcements to help Chapo's men in the shootout.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
Several witnesses said Chapo, Mayo, and other cartel leaders were following Rodolfo's murder and the resulting shootout in real-time on CB radios. If the jury is just looking at the handshake snub, this killing could easily be construed as personal. Coldblooded, but personal.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
Here are Chapo's other alleged murder conspiracy victims. Of these, maybe Miguel Martinez Martinez and Ramon Arellano Felix could be construed as personal. The rest seem pretty clearly related to drug trafficking.
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/5717253-List-of-El-Chapo-s-alleged-murder-victims.html …
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Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
Chapo is not charged with homicide, but count one of his indictment includes a violation for conspiracy to commit murder. To even consider this violation, the jury must find Chapo guilty of three other counts in the indictment.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
The testimony from Damaso Lopez, Rey Zambada, and Vicente Zambada was extensive. All of those witnesses were on the stand for multiple days. The transcripts will easily exceed a thousand pages. It's going to take time to prepare, and time for the jury to review.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
It's too soon to call this a victory for the defense, but it's certainly encouraging. Saw one member of the defense do a little fist pump. Chapo seemed pleased, he was all smiles as he left the courtroom, wearing a black suit w/ a gray shirt and black tie.
Emily PalmerVerified account @emilyepalmer 1h1 hour ago
Again, the jury asked to be let out at 4:15 p.m. As though you couldn't tell: they don't appear in any hurry to come to a verdict in Chapo's case. The judge made the announcement with a sigh-toned laugh.
Emily PalmerVerified account @emilyepalmer 1h1 hour ago
P.S.: The judge (who REALLY wants to be done with this, as evidenced by his every gesture on the stand) has asked the jury to sit Friday. They aren't available. He said he'd ask again tomorrow. Anyone want to place any bets?
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
In a second note, the jury also asked--for the 3rd day in a row--to be released at 4:15 pm. They indicated as well that they're not inclined to deliberate on Friday, meaning this could stretch into next week...
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
The jury asked to be dismissed at the usual time of 4:15pm. By then, deliberations will have lasted for 17+ hours. At least one juror isn't available to deliberate on Friday, raising the possibility that this could stretch into next week.
Emily PalmerVerified account @emilyepalmer 1h1 hour ago
Once deliberations start, Chapo only enters the court for jury notes. So, on this slow day he came into the room for the first time at 2:52 p.m., shaking each of his attorneys hands, per usual. But there was a bounce in his step I haven’t noticed before.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 29m29 minutes ago
That's it for today. The jury has been dismissed. We're officially headed for a fourth day of deliberations in El Chapo's trial.
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Chapo is not charged with homicide, but count one of his indictment includes a violation for conspiracy to commit murder. To even consider this violation, the jury must find Chapo guilty of three other counts in the indictment.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
The testimony from Damaso Lopez, Rey Zambada, and Vicente Zambada was extensive. All of those witnesses were on the stand for multiple days. The transcripts will easily exceed a thousand pages. It's going to take time to prepare, and time for the jury to review.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
It's too soon to call this a victory for the defense, but it's certainly encouraging. Saw one member of the defense do a little fist pump. Chapo seemed pleased, he was all smiles as he left the courtroom, wearing a black suit w/ a gray shirt and black tie.
Emily PalmerVerified account @emilyepalmer 1h1 hour ago
Again, the jury asked to be let out at 4:15 p.m. As though you couldn't tell: they don't appear in any hurry to come to a verdict in Chapo's case. The judge made the announcement with a sigh-toned laugh.
Emily PalmerVerified account @emilyepalmer 1h1 hour ago
P.S.: The judge (who REALLY wants to be done with this, as evidenced by his every gesture on the stand) has asked the jury to sit Friday. They aren't available. He said he'd ask again tomorrow. Anyone want to place any bets?
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
In a second note, the jury also asked--for the 3rd day in a row--to be released at 4:15 pm. They indicated as well that they're not inclined to deliberate on Friday, meaning this could stretch into next week...
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 1h1 hour ago
The jury asked to be dismissed at the usual time of 4:15pm. By then, deliberations will have lasted for 17+ hours. At least one juror isn't available to deliberate on Friday, raising the possibility that this could stretch into next week.
Emily PalmerVerified account @emilyepalmer 1h1 hour ago
Once deliberations start, Chapo only enters the court for jury notes. So, on this slow day he came into the room for the first time at 2:52 p.m., shaking each of his attorneys hands, per usual. But there was a bounce in his step I haven’t noticed before.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 29m29 minutes ago
That's it for today. The jury has been dismissed. We're officially headed for a fourth day of deliberations in El Chapo's trial.
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Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
More on Rodolfo Carrillo. In the early 2000s, his workers and Chapo's workers began having turf issues around Navolto, leading to a series of sit downs with cartel leaders. Vicente testified about these meetings where Chapo was portrayed as trying to work things out.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
But Rodolfo was stubborn & Chapo ultimately went to his fellow bosses, including Mayo Zambada, to get permission to kill Rodolfo. The hit took place outside a movie theater @ a shopping center in Culiacan in 2004. Rodolfo's wife was also killed and his security chief was injured.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
The murder led to one of the first major rifts in the Sinaloa cartel. Rodolfo's brother, Vicente, left and joined forces w/a rival cartel, Los Zetas. A violent war ensued w/Chapo and Mayo on one side and the Zetas and the Carrillos on the other.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
The most powerful Carrillo Fuentes brother, Amado, the Lord of the Skies, was by then long dead, having passed away during plastic surgery in 1997. Amado had been a close ally of Mayo for years and also worked closely with Chapo before his death. That made the split more poignant
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More on Rodolfo Carrillo. In the early 2000s, his workers and Chapo's workers began having turf issues around Navolto, leading to a series of sit downs with cartel leaders. Vicente testified about these meetings where Chapo was portrayed as trying to work things out.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
But Rodolfo was stubborn & Chapo ultimately went to his fellow bosses, including Mayo Zambada, to get permission to kill Rodolfo. The hit took place outside a movie theater @ a shopping center in Culiacan in 2004. Rodolfo's wife was also killed and his security chief was injured.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
The murder led to one of the first major rifts in the Sinaloa cartel. Rodolfo's brother, Vicente, left and joined forces w/a rival cartel, Los Zetas. A violent war ensued w/Chapo and Mayo on one side and the Zetas and the Carrillos on the other.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 2h2 hours ago
The most powerful Carrillo Fuentes brother, Amado, the Lord of the Skies, was by then long dead, having passed away during plastic surgery in 1997. Amado had been a close ally of Mayo for years and also worked closely with Chapo before his death. That made the split more poignant
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Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 1h1 hour ago
The bottom line is: No matter which murder the jury is trying to figuring out with this question, their note suggests that a verdict may not be coming for a while.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 1h1 hour ago
There is (of course!) another theory. The murders are all contained in the last of the 27 sub-counts in the indictment’s 1st count. Count 1 is the big one. If the jury is close to deciding on Count 1, that suggests something different.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 59m59 minutes ago
Oddly, the jurors don’t have to find that Chapo committed all of the murders he’s been accused of to find that the murder sub-count has been proved. Why focus on the personal aspect of a killing (or killings)? Some were clearly professional. Why not focus on those?
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 42m42 minutes ago
Day 3 of Chapo jury deliberations has ended. Still no verdict. The takeaway so far? The jury is clearly scrutinizing the evidence. But of course scrutiny of the evidence does not bode well for Chapo, given it's so overwhelmingly against him.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 40m40 minutes ago
It can't feel good for the prosecution team to have their slam-dunk, tied-up-every-which-way case being put through its paces, but there's really only one way this trial is headed in the end. It's just a matter of how long it takes to get there.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 21m21 minutes ago
You could argue the jury is looking hard at the evidence because there's so much of it. All the witnesses whose testimony they asked for today (Rey & Vicente Zambada and Damaso Lopez) talked about the Rodolfo Carrillo murder. But Rey was on the stand 3 months ago. Its a long time
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 15m15 minutes ago
Is there a point where a lot of damning evidence is too much damning evidence & the jury starts to get mired in the details losing sight of the bigger picture? I'm not saying that's happening now but the number of charges and amount of proof needed to them support them is a lot.
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The bottom line is: No matter which murder the jury is trying to figuring out with this question, their note suggests that a verdict may not be coming for a while.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 1h1 hour ago
There is (of course!) another theory. The murders are all contained in the last of the 27 sub-counts in the indictment’s 1st count. Count 1 is the big one. If the jury is close to deciding on Count 1, that suggests something different.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 59m59 minutes ago
Oddly, the jurors don’t have to find that Chapo committed all of the murders he’s been accused of to find that the murder sub-count has been proved. Why focus on the personal aspect of a killing (or killings)? Some were clearly professional. Why not focus on those?
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 42m42 minutes ago
Day 3 of Chapo jury deliberations has ended. Still no verdict. The takeaway so far? The jury is clearly scrutinizing the evidence. But of course scrutiny of the evidence does not bode well for Chapo, given it's so overwhelmingly against him.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 40m40 minutes ago
It can't feel good for the prosecution team to have their slam-dunk, tied-up-every-which-way case being put through its paces, but there's really only one way this trial is headed in the end. It's just a matter of how long it takes to get there.
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 21m21 minutes ago
You could argue the jury is looking hard at the evidence because there's so much of it. All the witnesses whose testimony they asked for today (Rey & Vicente Zambada and Damaso Lopez) talked about the Rodolfo Carrillo murder. But Rey was on the stand 3 months ago. Its a long time
Alan Feuer @alanfeuer 15m15 minutes ago
Is there a point where a lot of damning evidence is too much damning evidence & the jury starts to get mired in the details losing sight of the bigger picture? I'm not saying that's happening now but the number of charges and amount of proof needed to them support them is a lot.
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Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 44m44 minutes ago
Wondering why the hell it's taking so long for the jury to convict El Chapo? Read my story from this morning @vicenews:
Here’s why it’s taking so long for El Chapo’s jury to reach a verdict
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 42m42 minutes ago
A theory about today's note: If the jury is deciding on violation 27 from count 1 of the indictment, it means they've already found Chapo guilty on counts 2-4. That suggests good progress and could mean a verdict by tomorrow, assuming there's no debate over the remaining counts.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 40m40 minutes ago
It should also be noted that Rey Zambada, Vicente Zambada, and Damaso Lopez all delivered extensive testimony about the murder of Rodolfo Carrillo Fuentes. They each had their own version of the story, and the different perspectives offered a Rashomon-like retelling.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 38m38 minutes ago
Another alleged El Chapo murder that could be construed as personal was his cousin Juan Guzman Rocha aka Juancho or Virgo. He was a trusted lieutenant in the cartel, but Damaso Lopez testified that he was killed because he lied to Chapo about his whereabouts.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 36m36 minutes ago
Miguel Angel Martinez Martinez aka El Gordo is another murder that the jurors might think was personal. He was Chapo's right-hand man in the late '80s and early '90s. After Chapo was arrested in 1993, Gordo tried to sell a house that Chapo's wife and kids were living in.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 34m34 minutes ago
Gordo was the intended target in one of the most memorable murder attempts from the trial, where Chapo allegedly sent a mariachi band to his prison and had a hitman throw grenades into his cell. More on that here:
The 10 wildest moments and stories from El Chapo’s trial
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 32m32 minutes ago
Gordo survived the grenade attack, but the charge against Chapo is for conspiracy to commit murder. That means the government doesn't have to prove that anyone was killed — just that Chapo plotted a murder as part of a drug crime.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 29m29 minutes ago
Also note that the murder part of Chapo's indictment only requires him to be found guilty of one murder conspiracy. Prosecutors accused him of 20+ murder conspiracies, but the jury only needs to buy into one of those to convict him.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 24m24 minutes ago
The prosecutors looked stressed after the note from the jury this afternoon. They were scrambling to prepare the requested transcripts. But there's really no reason for them to be sweating at this point. If this stretches into next week, then they might have a problem.
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Wondering why the hell it's taking so long for the jury to convict El Chapo? Read my story from this morning @vicenews:
Here’s why it’s taking so long for El Chapo’s jury to reach a verdict
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 42m42 minutes ago
A theory about today's note: If the jury is deciding on violation 27 from count 1 of the indictment, it means they've already found Chapo guilty on counts 2-4. That suggests good progress and could mean a verdict by tomorrow, assuming there's no debate over the remaining counts.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 40m40 minutes ago
It should also be noted that Rey Zambada, Vicente Zambada, and Damaso Lopez all delivered extensive testimony about the murder of Rodolfo Carrillo Fuentes. They each had their own version of the story, and the different perspectives offered a Rashomon-like retelling.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 38m38 minutes ago
Another alleged El Chapo murder that could be construed as personal was his cousin Juan Guzman Rocha aka Juancho or Virgo. He was a trusted lieutenant in the cartel, but Damaso Lopez testified that he was killed because he lied to Chapo about his whereabouts.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 36m36 minutes ago
Miguel Angel Martinez Martinez aka El Gordo is another murder that the jurors might think was personal. He was Chapo's right-hand man in the late '80s and early '90s. After Chapo was arrested in 1993, Gordo tried to sell a house that Chapo's wife and kids were living in.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 34m34 minutes ago
Gordo was the intended target in one of the most memorable murder attempts from the trial, where Chapo allegedly sent a mariachi band to his prison and had a hitman throw grenades into his cell. More on that here:
The 10 wildest moments and stories from El Chapo’s trial
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 32m32 minutes ago
Gordo survived the grenade attack, but the charge against Chapo is for conspiracy to commit murder. That means the government doesn't have to prove that anyone was killed — just that Chapo plotted a murder as part of a drug crime.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 29m29 minutes ago
Also note that the murder part of Chapo's indictment only requires him to be found guilty of one murder conspiracy. Prosecutors accused him of 20+ murder conspiracies, but the jury only needs to buy into one of those to convict him.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 24m24 minutes ago
The prosecutors looked stressed after the note from the jury this afternoon. They were scrambling to prepare the requested transcripts. But there's really no reason for them to be sweating at this point. If this stretches into next week, then they might have a problem.
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Molly Crane-NewmanVerified account @molcranenewman 5h5 hours ago
It’s business as usual for Judge Cogan, who’s seeing other cases. This hour, he held a pre-motion conference for a wrongful arrest suit
Molly Crane-NewmanVerified account @molcranenewman 5h5 hours ago
The plaintiffs’ attorney argued that upon discovering contraband in a common area, cops maliciously arrested his clients when they wouldn’t rat out the search warrant target
Molly Crane-NewmanVerified account @molcranenewman 5h5 hours ago
Could the contraband in question be connected to the Sinaloa Cartel—or any of the players we’ve heard about, in a weird full circle moment? Anything’s possible
Molly Crane-NewmanVerified account @molcranenewman 5h5 hours ago
Emma Coronel is at home this morning. We’ve been told she’s not feeling well. She was bombarded by hundreds of photogs leaving court last night.
Molly Crane-NewmanVerified account @molcranenewman 5h5 hours ago
If Chapo is indeed convicted, he’s likely to be sent to ADX Florence in Colorado, home to the Unabomber & 9/11 co-conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui.
Molly Crane-NewmanVerified account @molcranenewman 5h5 hours ago
If/when he is sentenced, the SAMs which prohibit any contact whatsoever between Chapo & Emma are likely to be renewed—meaning these days in court are among the last they will ever see each other again.
Molly Crane-NewmanVerified account @molcranenewman 1h1 hour ago
El Chapo jurors request thousand of pages of testimony as deliberations slide into fourth day
El Chapo jurors request thousand of pages of testimony as deliberations slide into fourth day
FEB 06, 2019
"The jury tasked with deciding El Chapo’s fate appears to be having a hard time digesting the drug lord’s behemoth Brooklyn trial.
Nearing the end of their third day of deliberations, jurors asked Wednesday for the testimony of three cooperating witnesses in their entirety — documents numbering in the thousands.
The jury, comprised of eight women and four men, also sent out a note asking for clarification regarding the murder conspiracy charge included in the top count of leading a continuing criminal enterprise.
“If members of a drug cartel are killed from an opposing cartel for personal reasons, does that constitute as a drug trafficking crime?” a note from the jury read.
U.S. District Judge Brian Cogan told jurors that a killing carried out for “wholly personal reasons not related to drug trafficking” would not fall within the charge...."
El Chapo jurors request thousand of pages of testimony as deliberations slide into fourth day - NY Daily News
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It’s business as usual for Judge Cogan, who’s seeing other cases. This hour, he held a pre-motion conference for a wrongful arrest suit
Molly Crane-NewmanVerified account @molcranenewman 5h5 hours ago
The plaintiffs’ attorney argued that upon discovering contraband in a common area, cops maliciously arrested his clients when they wouldn’t rat out the search warrant target
Molly Crane-NewmanVerified account @molcranenewman 5h5 hours ago
Could the contraband in question be connected to the Sinaloa Cartel—or any of the players we’ve heard about, in a weird full circle moment? Anything’s possible
Molly Crane-NewmanVerified account @molcranenewman 5h5 hours ago
Emma Coronel is at home this morning. We’ve been told she’s not feeling well. She was bombarded by hundreds of photogs leaving court last night.
Molly Crane-NewmanVerified account @molcranenewman 5h5 hours ago
If Chapo is indeed convicted, he’s likely to be sent to ADX Florence in Colorado, home to the Unabomber & 9/11 co-conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui.
Molly Crane-NewmanVerified account @molcranenewman 5h5 hours ago
If/when he is sentenced, the SAMs which prohibit any contact whatsoever between Chapo & Emma are likely to be renewed—meaning these days in court are among the last they will ever see each other again.
Molly Crane-NewmanVerified account @molcranenewman 1h1 hour ago
El Chapo jurors request thousand of pages of testimony as deliberations slide into fourth day
El Chapo jurors request thousand of pages of testimony as deliberations slide into fourth day
FEB 06, 2019
"The jury tasked with deciding El Chapo’s fate appears to be having a hard time digesting the drug lord’s behemoth Brooklyn trial.
Nearing the end of their third day of deliberations, jurors asked Wednesday for the testimony of three cooperating witnesses in their entirety — documents numbering in the thousands.
The jury, comprised of eight women and four men, also sent out a note asking for clarification regarding the murder conspiracy charge included in the top count of leading a continuing criminal enterprise.
“If members of a drug cartel are killed from an opposing cartel for personal reasons, does that constitute as a drug trafficking crime?” a note from the jury read.
U.S. District Judge Brian Cogan told jurors that a killing carried out for “wholly personal reasons not related to drug trafficking” would not fall within the charge...."
El Chapo jurors request thousand of pages of testimony as deliberations slide into fourth day - NY Daily News
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'El Chapo' jury deliberations to stretch into fourth day
FEBRUARY 6, 2019
"(Reuters) - Jury deliberations in the U.S. trial of accused Mexican drug cartel boss Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman were expected to stretch into a fourth day after jurors asked to review days’ worth of testimony from key prosecution witnesses....
On Wednesday afternoon, jurors asked to review the testimony of Zambada’s brother, Jesus “El Rey” Zambada, and son, Vicente Zambada, as well as of Guzman’s former top lieutenant, Damaso Lopez. U.S. District Judge Brian Cogan told them they would get transcripts of the testimony as soon as they were ready.
The three witnesses pleaded guilty to U.S. charges and agreed to testify against Guzman. All of them spoke at length about Guzman’s alleged drug trafficking.
The jurors also asked whether the killing of drug cartel members by members of a rival cartel for personal reasons counted as a “drug trafficking crime.”
One of the 10 criminal counts against Guzman, engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise, includes the charge that he conspired to murder cartel enemies. The jury gave no indication of whether their question related to any particular murder....
The 12 jurors appeared relaxed and even cheerful as they entered the courtroom to receive Cogan’s instructions....
The jurors left court around 4:15 p.m. EST on Wednesday, and were expected to return at about 9:30 a.m. on Thursday...."
'El Chapo' jury deliberations to stretch into fourth day | Reuters
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FEBRUARY 6, 2019
"(Reuters) - Jury deliberations in the U.S. trial of accused Mexican drug cartel boss Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman were expected to stretch into a fourth day after jurors asked to review days’ worth of testimony from key prosecution witnesses....
On Wednesday afternoon, jurors asked to review the testimony of Zambada’s brother, Jesus “El Rey” Zambada, and son, Vicente Zambada, as well as of Guzman’s former top lieutenant, Damaso Lopez. U.S. District Judge Brian Cogan told them they would get transcripts of the testimony as soon as they were ready.
The three witnesses pleaded guilty to U.S. charges and agreed to testify against Guzman. All of them spoke at length about Guzman’s alleged drug trafficking.
The jurors also asked whether the killing of drug cartel members by members of a rival cartel for personal reasons counted as a “drug trafficking crime.”
One of the 10 criminal counts against Guzman, engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise, includes the charge that he conspired to murder cartel enemies. The jury gave no indication of whether their question related to any particular murder....
The 12 jurors appeared relaxed and even cheerful as they entered the courtroom to receive Cogan’s instructions....
The jurors left court around 4:15 p.m. EST on Wednesday, and were expected to return at about 9:30 a.m. on Thursday...."
'El Chapo' jury deliberations to stretch into fourth day | Reuters
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Brendan Pierson @brenpiers 4h4 hours ago
Prosecutors probably aren't happy that the jury's still out on Chapo, but it's probably too early to say it's bad for them. For one thing, two and a half days of deliberations just isn't that long for a big, complicated trial.
Brendan Pierson @brenpiers 4h4 hours ago
There are also some good signs for the government. The jury asked today about whether murders for personal reasons could be considered drug trafficking crimes. On the one hand, that could mean they're questioning whether the government proved drug-related murders.
Brendan Pierson @brenpiers 4h4 hours ago
But on the other hand, it suggests they're looking at the single murder conspiracy charge in the case, which they're only supposed to decide if they've already found Chapo guilty of at least one of the drug conspiracy charges.
Brendan Pierson @brenpiers 3h3 hours ago
The best sign of the prosecution probably isn't any of their notes. It's how they looked when they came into court this afternoon - relaxed, even cheerful. Not at all like a jury that's stuck or headed toward deadlock.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 3h3 hours ago
Keegan Hamilton Retweeted Brendan Pierson
This is true…
---Brendan Pierson @brenpiers
The best sign of the prosecution probably isn't any of their notes. It's how they looked when they came into court this afternoon - relaxed, even cheerful. Not at all like a jury that's stuck or headed toward deadlock.
2:10 PM - 6 Feb 2019
Brendan Pierson @brenpiers 3h3 hours ago
Having said all that - the only solid lesson I've taken away from years of covering trials is that juries are impossible to read or predict with any certainty, so take all that with a grain of salt.
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Prosecutors probably aren't happy that the jury's still out on Chapo, but it's probably too early to say it's bad for them. For one thing, two and a half days of deliberations just isn't that long for a big, complicated trial.
Brendan Pierson @brenpiers 4h4 hours ago
There are also some good signs for the government. The jury asked today about whether murders for personal reasons could be considered drug trafficking crimes. On the one hand, that could mean they're questioning whether the government proved drug-related murders.
Brendan Pierson @brenpiers 4h4 hours ago
But on the other hand, it suggests they're looking at the single murder conspiracy charge in the case, which they're only supposed to decide if they've already found Chapo guilty of at least one of the drug conspiracy charges.
Brendan Pierson @brenpiers 3h3 hours ago
The best sign of the prosecution probably isn't any of their notes. It's how they looked when they came into court this afternoon - relaxed, even cheerful. Not at all like a jury that's stuck or headed toward deadlock.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 3h3 hours ago
Keegan Hamilton Retweeted Brendan Pierson
This is true…
---Brendan Pierson @brenpiers
The best sign of the prosecution probably isn't any of their notes. It's how they looked when they came into court this afternoon - relaxed, even cheerful. Not at all like a jury that's stuck or headed toward deadlock.
2:10 PM - 6 Feb 2019
Brendan Pierson @brenpiers 3h3 hours ago
Having said all that - the only solid lesson I've taken away from years of covering trials is that juries are impossible to read or predict with any certainty, so take all that with a grain of salt.
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Thursday, Feb. 7th:
*Trial (Day 42)– VERDICT WATCH! (Day 4 of Jury Deliberations) (@ 9:30am ET) - NY – *Joaquín Archivaldo Guzmán Loera (El Chapo) (~61) arrested & charged with smuggled 155 tons of cocaine into U.S. Sinaloa drug cartel chief. Guzmán faces 10-count indictment charging him with drug trafficking, murder conspiracy & money laundering spanning nearly three decades. Plead not guilty to all charges. No bail.
Prosecutors say Guzmán ran Mexico's Sinaloa cartel from 1989 to 2014. In that time, they allege the cartel brought cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine & marijuana into the U.S. Prosecutors also charged Guzmán in connection with the assassinations of thousands of competitors. Plead not guilty to all charges. If convicted, he faces life in prison.
Trial expected to last several months. Also for trafficking, conspiracy & firearms in California, Arizona, Texas, Illinois, Florida & New York.
Jurors: The jurors are not sequestered, which means they’re allowed to go home every day, but they are escorted to and from the courthouse under the guard of U.S. Marshals. The jurors are all from the Eastern District of New York, which includes Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island, and Long Island. They are a diverse group, including two fluent Spanish speakers, several African-Americans, and, judging solely by appearances, a roughly 50/50 mix of younger and older folks. We don’t know much about their lives, but it came out during jury selectionthat one is retired from the Department of Corrections and another has family members who work for the Department of Homeland Security. The foreperson is Juror 11, a black woman who looks to be in her late 40s or early 50s.
2/4/19 Day 1 Jury Deliberations: The defense will ask Judge Cogan to poll the jury before deliberations begin about whether anyone saw news coverage about Chapo allegedly drugging and raping young girls. Could potentially lead to jurors being dismissed. There are six alternates available. Cogan just said two jurors acknowledged seeing press coverage over the weekend. One said it was about deliberations starting today, the other "took a quick glance at something." He's now questioning each juror in private with one attorney each from the defense & prosecution. The jury is now seated in the courtroom. Nobody dismissed. Cogan now reading the charging instructions. Jury start deliberations @ 1:05pm ET. The Jurors had 3 questions. The first note came in at 1:58 pm ET. Jury had questions answered by the judge & returned to deliberations at 2:45 pm. Day 1 of Chapo jury deliberations have just ended without a verdict. The jurors will be back tomorrow morning 2/5 at 9:30 for Day 2. Chapo still faces indictments in six other federal jurisdictions. If by some miracle he is acquitted in Brooklyn, his next trial would probably be in either El Paso or San Diego. Jurors consist of seven women and five men.
2/5/19 Day 2 Jury Deliberations: 4 questions from the jury just after 1:45 p.m.: two regarding meth: 1) requesting a phone recording about 'ice' and 2) Ray Zambada's testimony about a man named Chespiro, who wanted legal help to bring ephedrine from "one of those Asian countries." 3) Full testimony from Alex Cifuentes. 4) Full testimony from Jorge Cifuentes. The request for the Cifuentes' testimony: The judge said he was inclined to simply give jurors the printed pages rather than spending 3 to 5 days--yes, 3 to 5 DAYS--reading back that testimony. Because that would be nuts. The jury was brought into the courtroom & they played the recording of this call they requested earlier. The transcript was shown on a screen in the courtroom. Then the jury got a read back of Rey Zambada's testimony about "Chespiro." Correction from earlier: Rey said he met him in 2004/05 in Mexico City. Said he was in charge of meth production for Chapo, wanted help importing 15-20 tons of ephedrine from Asia via a front company. Redacting the testimony of Alex & Jorge Cifuentes. The jury also sent another note, which Cogan said "makes the issue worse." They requested the entire testimony of an obscure witness named Juan Aguayo. He was a border agent who arrested three guys who were trying to smuggle weed into California by boat. Jurry deliberations been going for 10 hours so far. Jury deliberations continue to 2/6.
2/6/19 Day 3: The jury will hear readbacks of testimony from Juan Aguayo, a border agent who helped seized 400 kgs of pot in panga boats off the Calif. coast in 2012. It was also get giant binders w/the full testimony of Alex & Jorge Ciifuentes. In terms of punishment, Chapo faces life in prison on the charges in his indictment. That life sentence will become mandatory if the jury checks off three boxes underneath the top charge of engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise. 1. Did any of the coke deals he made involve more than 150 kgs? (All of them did.). 2. Did the enterprise earn $10 million or more in one 12-month period? (There was repeated testimony that the cartel earned $100s of millions all the time). 3. Was Chapo a leader of the enterprise? At 2:30 p.m. the jury requested full testimonial transcripts for three more witnesses in Chapo's case: Ray and Vicente Zambada and Dámaso López Núñez. That totals full testimonies for 5 of 14 star witnesses. (And six witnesses overall.) The jury's question: "If members of a drug cartel are killed by an opposing cartel for personal reasons, does that constitute a drug trafficking crime?" The answer from the judge was no, if a killing was for "wholly personal reasons" it's not a drug trafficking crime. The jury also asked--for the 3rd day in a row--to be released at 4:15 pm. They indicated as well that they're not inclined to deliberate on Friday, meaning this could stretch into next week. Deliberations will have lasted for 17+ hours. And deliberations continue on 2/7.
*Trial (Day 42)– VERDICT WATCH! (Day 4 of Jury Deliberations) (@ 9:30am ET) - NY – *Joaquín Archivaldo Guzmán Loera (El Chapo) (~61) arrested & charged with smuggled 155 tons of cocaine into U.S. Sinaloa drug cartel chief. Guzmán faces 10-count indictment charging him with drug trafficking, murder conspiracy & money laundering spanning nearly three decades. Plead not guilty to all charges. No bail.
Prosecutors say Guzmán ran Mexico's Sinaloa cartel from 1989 to 2014. In that time, they allege the cartel brought cocaine, heroin, methamphetamine & marijuana into the U.S. Prosecutors also charged Guzmán in connection with the assassinations of thousands of competitors. Plead not guilty to all charges. If convicted, he faces life in prison.
Trial expected to last several months. Also for trafficking, conspiracy & firearms in California, Arizona, Texas, Illinois, Florida & New York.
Jurors: The jurors are not sequestered, which means they’re allowed to go home every day, but they are escorted to and from the courthouse under the guard of U.S. Marshals. The jurors are all from the Eastern District of New York, which includes Brooklyn, Queens, Staten Island, and Long Island. They are a diverse group, including two fluent Spanish speakers, several African-Americans, and, judging solely by appearances, a roughly 50/50 mix of younger and older folks. We don’t know much about their lives, but it came out during jury selectionthat one is retired from the Department of Corrections and another has family members who work for the Department of Homeland Security. The foreperson is Juror 11, a black woman who looks to be in her late 40s or early 50s.
2/4/19 Day 1 Jury Deliberations: The defense will ask Judge Cogan to poll the jury before deliberations begin about whether anyone saw news coverage about Chapo allegedly drugging and raping young girls. Could potentially lead to jurors being dismissed. There are six alternates available. Cogan just said two jurors acknowledged seeing press coverage over the weekend. One said it was about deliberations starting today, the other "took a quick glance at something." He's now questioning each juror in private with one attorney each from the defense & prosecution. The jury is now seated in the courtroom. Nobody dismissed. Cogan now reading the charging instructions. Jury start deliberations @ 1:05pm ET. The Jurors had 3 questions. The first note came in at 1:58 pm ET. Jury had questions answered by the judge & returned to deliberations at 2:45 pm. Day 1 of Chapo jury deliberations have just ended without a verdict. The jurors will be back tomorrow morning 2/5 at 9:30 for Day 2. Chapo still faces indictments in six other federal jurisdictions. If by some miracle he is acquitted in Brooklyn, his next trial would probably be in either El Paso or San Diego. Jurors consist of seven women and five men.
2/5/19 Day 2 Jury Deliberations: 4 questions from the jury just after 1:45 p.m.: two regarding meth: 1) requesting a phone recording about 'ice' and 2) Ray Zambada's testimony about a man named Chespiro, who wanted legal help to bring ephedrine from "one of those Asian countries." 3) Full testimony from Alex Cifuentes. 4) Full testimony from Jorge Cifuentes. The request for the Cifuentes' testimony: The judge said he was inclined to simply give jurors the printed pages rather than spending 3 to 5 days--yes, 3 to 5 DAYS--reading back that testimony. Because that would be nuts. The jury was brought into the courtroom & they played the recording of this call they requested earlier. The transcript was shown on a screen in the courtroom. Then the jury got a read back of Rey Zambada's testimony about "Chespiro." Correction from earlier: Rey said he met him in 2004/05 in Mexico City. Said he was in charge of meth production for Chapo, wanted help importing 15-20 tons of ephedrine from Asia via a front company. Redacting the testimony of Alex & Jorge Cifuentes. The jury also sent another note, which Cogan said "makes the issue worse." They requested the entire testimony of an obscure witness named Juan Aguayo. He was a border agent who arrested three guys who were trying to smuggle weed into California by boat. Jurry deliberations been going for 10 hours so far. Jury deliberations continue to 2/6.
2/6/19 Day 3: The jury will hear readbacks of testimony from Juan Aguayo, a border agent who helped seized 400 kgs of pot in panga boats off the Calif. coast in 2012. It was also get giant binders w/the full testimony of Alex & Jorge Ciifuentes. In terms of punishment, Chapo faces life in prison on the charges in his indictment. That life sentence will become mandatory if the jury checks off three boxes underneath the top charge of engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise. 1. Did any of the coke deals he made involve more than 150 kgs? (All of them did.). 2. Did the enterprise earn $10 million or more in one 12-month period? (There was repeated testimony that the cartel earned $100s of millions all the time). 3. Was Chapo a leader of the enterprise? At 2:30 p.m. the jury requested full testimonial transcripts for three more witnesses in Chapo's case: Ray and Vicente Zambada and Dámaso López Núñez. That totals full testimonies for 5 of 14 star witnesses. (And six witnesses overall.) The jury's question: "If members of a drug cartel are killed by an opposing cartel for personal reasons, does that constitute a drug trafficking crime?" The answer from the judge was no, if a killing was for "wholly personal reasons" it's not a drug trafficking crime. The jury also asked--for the 3rd day in a row--to be released at 4:15 pm. They indicated as well that they're not inclined to deliberate on Friday, meaning this could stretch into next week. Deliberations will have lasted for 17+ hours. And deliberations continue on 2/7.
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‘El Chapo’ Guzman’s lawyers send out strange tweet on third day of deliberations (with clip)
FEBRUARY 6, 2019
"NEW YORK — On the third day of jury deliberations, lawyers for Mexican drug lord Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman Loera sent out a strange tweet.
The lawyers tweeted a picture of Hijos de Villa tequila in the shape of a gun, captioned “For after trial. #ElChapo.”
BALAREZO LAW @balarezolaw 19h19 hours ago
For after trial. #ElChapo
The meaning behind the tweet is unclear, and PIX11 News has reached out for comment...."
‘El Chapo’ Guzman’s lawyers send out strange tweet on third day of deliberations
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FEBRUARY 6, 2019
"NEW YORK — On the third day of jury deliberations, lawyers for Mexican drug lord Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzman Loera sent out a strange tweet.
The lawyers tweeted a picture of Hijos de Villa tequila in the shape of a gun, captioned “For after trial. #ElChapo.”
BALAREZO LAW @balarezolaw 19h19 hours ago
For after trial. #ElChapo
The meaning behind the tweet is unclear, and PIX11 News has reached out for comment...."
‘El Chapo’ Guzman’s lawyers send out strange tweet on third day of deliberations
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Sean Penn 'should be in jail' because his 2015 interview with El Chapo thwarted a Mexican military raid to capture the drug cartel boss, says ex-DEA agent
7 February 2019
"Before retiring, Jack Riley was the highest ranking Special Agent in the Drug Enforcement Administration
Riley wrote a book about his efforts to track down Joaquin 'El Chapo' Guzman, the reputed head of the powerful Sinaloa drug cartel
El Chapo had twice escaped the clutches of Mexican authorities, but in October 2015 he was tracked to a secret location, Riley claims
Just before the Mexican marines were given the order to capture him, Sean Penn arrived together with a Mexican soap actor to interview El Chapo
Riley says that Mexican forces called off the planned raid because of the risk of causing harm to Penn and Kate del Castillo
After Penn and del Castillo left, Mexican forces launched a raid, but El Chapo slipped away
Riley tried to persuade the Justice Department to prosecute Penn for obstruction of justice, but was denied ..."
Sean Penn 'should be in jail' because his interview with El Chapo 'thwarted a Mexican military raid' | Daily Mail Online
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7 February 2019
"Before retiring, Jack Riley was the highest ranking Special Agent in the Drug Enforcement Administration
Riley wrote a book about his efforts to track down Joaquin 'El Chapo' Guzman, the reputed head of the powerful Sinaloa drug cartel
El Chapo had twice escaped the clutches of Mexican authorities, but in October 2015 he was tracked to a secret location, Riley claims
Just before the Mexican marines were given the order to capture him, Sean Penn arrived together with a Mexican soap actor to interview El Chapo
Riley says that Mexican forces called off the planned raid because of the risk of causing harm to Penn and Kate del Castillo
After Penn and del Castillo left, Mexican forces launched a raid, but El Chapo slipped away
Riley tried to persuade the Justice Department to prosecute Penn for obstruction of justice, but was denied ..."
Sean Penn 'should be in jail' because his interview with El Chapo 'thwarted a Mexican military raid' | Daily Mail Online
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Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 4h4 hours ago
Hello from Day 42 of El Chapo’s trial. It’s day 4 of jury deliberations. They’ve been at it for roughly 17 hours, sent 10 notes to the court, and requested over 1,000 pages of testimony. Why is it taking so long to reach a verdict? My story @vicenews:
Here’s why it’s taking so long for El Chapo’s jury to reach a verdict
Feb 6, 2019
"BROOKLYN, New York — Jurors in the trial of Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán sat through nearly three months of damning testimony and heard just 30 minutes from the only witness called by the defense. But as of Wednesday, after a day and a half of deliberations, they still haven’t made up their minds about whether he ought to be convicted or acquitted.
So what gives? How is there any doubt that the leader of the Sinaloa cartel is guilty as charged? And what happens if, by some miracle, he wins an acquittal?..."
Here’s why it’s taking so long for El Chapo’s jury to reach a verdict
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 3h3 hours ago
There’s some reason to think we could get a verdict today:
-Jury asked about violation 27 in count 1.
That likely means they found Chapo guilty on counts 2-4.
-Counts 5-8 are for cocaine, and the evidence there is pretty clear.
-That leaves counts 9-10…
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 3h3 hours ago
…Counts 9-10 are for use of weapons and money laundering.
There are lots pics of Chapo brandishing guns. Nearly every witness testified about it.
Much less evidence of money laundering. It was almost an afterthought in the testimony. If Chapo beats a charge, it’ll be this one.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 3h3 hours ago
Counts 9 and 10 also don't really matter. It would be embarrassing for prosecutors not to get a conviction, but to even consider these the jury must find Chapo guilty on counts 1-4. Each of those carry a life sentence on their own. The guns and money laundering are just extra.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 3h3 hours ago
To be clear, there's ample evidence that Chapo engaged in money laundering. His mistress testified about setting up a front company. We saw his drug ledgers. Multiple witnesses described funneling drug proceeds from the US back to Mexico and Colombia. But no obvious smoking gun.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 3h3 hours ago
The burden of proof for the money laundering charge is also quite low. Prosecutors basically just need to convince the jury that Chapo tried to hide the money he was making from illegal drug sales. That seems like a no-brainer, but it could get lost in the vast sea of evidence.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 2h2 hours ago
The case against a verdict today: The jury is going to be wading through massive binders of testimony transcripts. And they seem to be diligent about making sure each count has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, so even if they're on count 5, they still have a long way to go.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 2h2 hours ago
Heading up to the courtroom now, stay tuned for updates.…
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Hello from Day 42 of El Chapo’s trial. It’s day 4 of jury deliberations. They’ve been at it for roughly 17 hours, sent 10 notes to the court, and requested over 1,000 pages of testimony. Why is it taking so long to reach a verdict? My story @vicenews:
Here’s why it’s taking so long for El Chapo’s jury to reach a verdict
Feb 6, 2019
"BROOKLYN, New York — Jurors in the trial of Joaquín “El Chapo” Guzmán sat through nearly three months of damning testimony and heard just 30 minutes from the only witness called by the defense. But as of Wednesday, after a day and a half of deliberations, they still haven’t made up their minds about whether he ought to be convicted or acquitted.
So what gives? How is there any doubt that the leader of the Sinaloa cartel is guilty as charged? And what happens if, by some miracle, he wins an acquittal?..."
Here’s why it’s taking so long for El Chapo’s jury to reach a verdict
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 3h3 hours ago
There’s some reason to think we could get a verdict today:
-Jury asked about violation 27 in count 1.
That likely means they found Chapo guilty on counts 2-4.
-Counts 5-8 are for cocaine, and the evidence there is pretty clear.
-That leaves counts 9-10…
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 3h3 hours ago
…Counts 9-10 are for use of weapons and money laundering.
There are lots pics of Chapo brandishing guns. Nearly every witness testified about it.
Much less evidence of money laundering. It was almost an afterthought in the testimony. If Chapo beats a charge, it’ll be this one.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 3h3 hours ago
Counts 9 and 10 also don't really matter. It would be embarrassing for prosecutors not to get a conviction, but to even consider these the jury must find Chapo guilty on counts 1-4. Each of those carry a life sentence on their own. The guns and money laundering are just extra.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 3h3 hours ago
To be clear, there's ample evidence that Chapo engaged in money laundering. His mistress testified about setting up a front company. We saw his drug ledgers. Multiple witnesses described funneling drug proceeds from the US back to Mexico and Colombia. But no obvious smoking gun.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 3h3 hours ago
The burden of proof for the money laundering charge is also quite low. Prosecutors basically just need to convince the jury that Chapo tried to hide the money he was making from illegal drug sales. That seems like a no-brainer, but it could get lost in the vast sea of evidence.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 2h2 hours ago
The case against a verdict today: The jury is going to be wading through massive binders of testimony transcripts. And they seem to be diligent about making sure each count has been proven beyond a reasonable doubt, so even if they're on count 5, they still have a long way to go.
Keegan HamiltonVerified account @keegan_hamilton 2h2 hours ago
Heading up to the courtroom now, stay tuned for updates.…
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