Netherlands Holland - Tanja Groen, 18, left school party on bike, Maastricht, 31 Aug 1993

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Dec 23 2022 rbbm.

Nog geen nieuws uit België over Tanja Groen

MAASTRICHT - Het cold case team van de politie Maastricht heeft nog geen nieuws over een onlangs gestart onderzoek naar een mogelijke relatie tussen Marc Dutroux en Tanja Groen. Begin oktober werd aangekondigd dat onderzocht zou worden of vrouwelijke dna-materiaal dat gevonden is in woningen en...

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''At the beginning of October it was announced that it would be investigated whether female DNA material found in Dutroux's homes and vans belongs to Tanja. The result would come quickly.

The Public Prosecution Service in Maastricht has now announced, 2.5 months later, that a request for legal assistance has been made to Belgium. That request has not yet been responded to.

The Public Prosecution Service expects to receive a message from Belgium in the course of January.''

 

[worldwatcher]

Still no result of DNA test Tanja:

"According to Sevérine Steuve, head of the DNA database in Belgium, it is not clear whether all unidentified DNA profiles from traces in Dutroux's homes and van are included in the database. That inventory has yet to take place. The competence for this lies with the Belgian judiciary."

Nog steeds geen uitslag DNA onderzoek Tanja

 

[Bit of hope]

Still no result of DNA test Tanja:

"According to Sevérine Steuve, head of the DNA database in Belgium, it is not clear whether all unidentified DNA profiles from traces in Dutroux's homes and van are included in the database. That inventory has yet to take place. The competence for this lies with the Belgian judiciary."

Nog steeds geen uitslag DNA onderzoek Tanja

Since what year is the DNA database in Belgium active? Dutroux was already arrested in 1996.....That's "only" 27 years ago....Talking about competence?!

To answer my own question.

https://justitie.belgium.be/nl/nieuws/persberichten/internationale_uitwisseling_van_dna_gegevens

July 31, 2014 - 12:00 PM
The NICC <The NICC (National Institute for Criminilastics and Criminology) is a federal scientific institution within the FPS Justice, which conducts independent scientific research at the request of the judicial authorities> will start on Tuesday 29 July with the international exchange of DNA data with the Netherlands.

All Belgian data obtained from DNA analyzes are centralized in two DNA databases, the “criminalistics” database and the “convicts” database, at the NICC. The “criminalistics” database contains more than 37,000 DNA profiles obtained from traces and suspects. The “convicts” database contains more than 29,000 DNA reference profiles of convicted persons. Most of these profiles will be automatically exchanged between all member states of the European Union in the future.

The first exchange of DNA data took place with the Netherlands on July 29 and resulted in more than 1500 matches. A large number of these similarities have been found between traces found at Belgian crime scenes and reference profiles of persons sampled in the Netherlands. Experts from the NICC will validate these agreements and submit them to the competent judicial authorities. It is clear that the results of this international exchange are promising and will have far-reaching consequences for judicial investigations and the clarification of criminal offenses in Belgium.

The international exchange of DNA data is an additional weapon in Belgium's fight against crime.

https://justitie.belgium.be/nl/nieuws/persberichten/nationale_belgische_dna_databank_bereikt_symbolische_kaap_van_50000_sporen

June 21, 2017 - 10:30 am
As of this week, the DNA database contains no less than 50,000 of those trace profiles. And that exactly 15 years after the database was set up in our country within the NICC, in 2002. An average of 320 traces are added every month.

What to think about this.......??

 

[worldwatcher]

Since what year is the DNA database in Belgium active? Dutroux was already arrested in 1996.....That's "only" 27 years ago....Talking about competence?!

To answer my own question.

https://justitie.belgium.be/nl/nieuws/persberichten/internationale_uitwisseling_van_dna_gegevens

July 31, 2014 - 12:00 PM
The NICC <The NICC (National Institute for Criminilastics and Criminology) is a federal scientific institution within the FPS Justice, which conducts independent scientific research at the request of the judicial authorities> will start on Tuesday 29 July with the international exchange of DNA data with the Netherlands.

All Belgian data obtained from DNA analyzes are centralized in two DNA databases, the “criminalistics” database and the “convicts” database, at the NICC. The “criminalistics” database contains more than 37,000 DNA profiles obtained from traces and suspects. The “convicts” database contains more than 29,000 DNA reference profiles of convicted persons. Most of these profiles will be automatically exchanged between all member states of the European Union in the future.

The first exchange of DNA data took place with the Netherlands on July 29 and resulted in more than 1500 matches. A large number of these similarities have been found between traces found at Belgian crime scenes and reference profiles of persons sampled in the Netherlands. Experts from the NICC will validate these agreements and submit them to the competent judicial authorities. It is clear that the results of this international exchange are promising and will have far-reaching consequences for judicial investigations and the clarification of criminal offenses in Belgium.

The international exchange of DNA data is an additional weapon in Belgium's fight against crime.

https://justitie.belgium.be/nl/nieuws/persberichten/nationale_belgische_dna_databank_bereikt_symbolische_kaap_van_50000_sporen

June 21, 2017 - 10:30 am
As of this week, the DNA database contains no less than 50,000 of those trace profiles. And that exactly 15 years after the database was set up in our country within the NICC, in 2002. An average of 320 traces are added every month.

What to think about this.......??

Jaw dropping,right??
Makes me wonder if any files, evidence got "lost/misplaced" in the mean time..

The investigation wasn't throroughly and chaotic, sort to speak of.

 

[worldwatcher]

A week after Marc Dutroux's arrest, the Dutch police alerted Belgium to Tanja Groen

The parents of the Dutch Tanja Groen, who disappeared in 1993. Image DPG Media
A week after the arrest of Marc Dutroux in 1996, the public prosecutor's office in Neufchâteau was already alerted to a possible link with Tanja Groen (18) who had disappeared in Maastricht. It also received an extensive trace file from the Netherlands.


"Since it cannot be ruled out that Marc Dutroux may be to blame for the disappearance of Tanja Groen, I request that you pay attention to this in your investigation if possible." With those words, chief constable BMF Renckens of the Limburg-South regional police addressed the investigating judge Jean-Marc Connerotte in Neufchâteau on August 19, 1996, a week after the arrest of Marc Dutroux.

In the following months and years, the request led to a Dutch-Belgian exchange of information, with a summarizing 50-page official report on October 27, 1998, containing an extensive report on the disappearance of Tanja Groen, on August 31, 1993 after a student party in Maastricht. The file describes her fingerprints, X-rays of her teeth and hairs pulled from a comb in her bedroom...."

Article from oct,2022
Een week na de arrestatie van Marc Dutroux attendeerde de Nederlandse politie België al op Tanja Groen

 

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Claire van Dyck and Pascal Thewissen 26 April 2023
DNA van Tanja Groen na halfjaar nog niet vergeleken met sporen uit dossier-Dutroux

A DNA comparison from the Dutroux file has not yet been made.
''Six months after the Belgian commitment, it is still not clear whether the DNA of the Schagense Tanja Groen can also be compared with the unknown female DNA from the Dutroux file. It is still being investigated whether the DNA profiles have been preserved and, if so, where.''

 

[worldwatcher]

Claire van Dyck and Pascal Thewissen 26 April 2023
DNA van Tanja Groen na halfjaar nog niet vergeleken met sporen uit dossier-Dutroux
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A DNA comparison from the Dutroux file has not yet been made.
''Six months after the Belgian commitment, it is still not clear whether the DNA of the Schagense Tanja Groen can also be compared with the unknown female DNA from the Dutroux file. It is still being investigated whether the DNA profiles have been preserved and, if so, where.''

A few days ago, I was reading the files on WL.There is a mention of a brown hair.
Dutroux had many connections in The Netherlands.


She was dressed in blue jeans, a pink T-shirt with the inscription "Tanja" and a dark blue Guerrier jacket.

To ask
Do you have information about this missing person? Then contact the police on 0800-6070.

Facts
Name:
Tanja Afra Maria Green
Current age:
47
Length:
170 cm
Hair colour:
Brown
Eye Color:
Blue
Sex:
Woman
Tanja Afra Maria Groen

 

[worldwatcher]

Bumping for Tanja

It's mind blowing, that there still isnt any news/updates about about Tanja and the possibility of involvement of Dutroux:
"Detectives want to compare the unknown female DNA traces in the houses and van of Marc Dutroux with DNA from Tanja Groen. This concerns 26 DNA profiles, but are they in our Belgian database? And can they deliver anything?
Zitten de DNA-profielen uit de zaak-Dutroux eigenlijk wel in onze databank? “Er liep wel eens iets mis”

Belgian justice will compare unknown DNA found in the cellars and vans of Marc Dutroux with that of Tanja Groen, who has been missing since 1993.
België zal DNA dat bij Dutroux is gevonden vergelijken met dat van vermiste Nederlandse studente Tanja Groen

 

[ZaZara]

https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/487..._medium=social&utm_campaign=seeding-telegraaf

Comparison dna from Dutroux case with missing Tanja Groen is upcoming

The unidentified female dna traces from the Dutroux file are at the Netherlands Forensic Institute (NFI) for comparison with biological material from university student Tanja Groen, who disappeared in 1993.

According to the Public Prosecutor's Office (OM), it is not yet possible to say when there will be more clarity about a possible match between one of these unknown profiles and the dna profile of the then 18-year-old Schagen student who disappeared during the introduction week in Maastricht. "The traces have been handed over and are now at the NFI to be analysed. After the inventory, it has to be seen which investigations are still possible. All this takes time. At the moment, it is impossible to say when this process will be completed. Any further investigations will also take time," said a justice spokesperson.

More than 20 unknown dna traces were found in the homes and a van of Belgian serial killer Marc Dutroux; some female and some mixed. Thousands of hairs were also found.

The Netherlands already submitted a mutual legal assistance request to the Belgian prosecution service two years ago in order to compare the traces. Why this was not done earlier remains unclear. Neither the judiciary in Limburg nor in Liege would comment on that. No announcements are made about the further course of the comparison either. "It is up to the requesting party, in this case the Netherlands, to communicate about this," responsible advocate-general Jean-Baptiste Andries repeatedly informed.

Research by the cold case team Limburg shows that a possible role of Dutroux in Tanja Groen's disappearance cannot be excluded, it has only been superficially investigated.

BBM


As much as I would like to see Tanja's disappearance solved, I do not wish upon anyone to be a victim of Marc Dutroux and his wife.

 

[worldwatcher]

In Schagen, North Holland, a square is named after Tanja Groen, who has been missing since 1993. There will also be a memorial on the square for her and crime reporter Peter R. de Vries, who paid a lot of attention to her disappearance.

Schagen gets Tanja Groenplein with monument Peter R. de Vries​

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May 6, 2024

The memorial will also include a QR code that allows visitors to read the reason for this sign. The memorial is currently being worked on, reports the municipality of Schagen.
Groen was born in June 1975 in Schagen, where she also grew up. After her eighteenth birthday she moved to Maastricht to study there. During the introduction week in 1993, she disappeared when she cycled to her room in the village of Gronsveld after a party at the Circumflex student association. Since then, every trace of her has been missing.
De Vries started a crowdfunding campaign in June 2021 to raise at least 1 million euros. That money would be available for one year to the person who provided the golden tip. De Vries started the collection on what would have been Groen's 46th birthday. At the beginning of July 2021, he was in Schagen to ask local entrepreneurs for help. He was shot a day later and died more than a week later

SBM
Schagen krijgt Tanja Groenplein met monument Peter R. de Vries | Binnenland | NU.nl

 

[worldwatcher]

https://www.telegraaf.nl/nieuws/487..._medium=social&utm_campaign=seeding-telegraaf

Comparison dna from Dutroux case with missing Tanja Groen is upcoming

The unidentified female dna traces from the Dutroux file are at the Netherlands Forensic Institute (NFI) for comparison with biological material from university student Tanja Groen, who disappeared in 1993.

According to the Public Prosecutor's Office (OM), it is not yet possible to say when there will be more clarity about a possible match between one of these unknown profiles and the dna profile of the then 18-year-old Schagen student who disappeared during the introduction week in Maastricht. "The traces have been handed over and are now at the NFI to be analysed. After the inventory, it has to be seen which investigations are still possible. All this takes time. At the moment, it is impossible to say when this process will be completed. Any further investigations will also take time," said a justice spokesperson.

More than 20 unknown dna traces were found in the homes and a van of Belgian serial killer Marc Dutroux; some female and some mixed. Thousands of hairs were also found.

The Netherlands already submitted a mutual legal assistance request to the Belgian prosecution service two years ago in order to compare the traces. Why this was not done earlier remains unclear. Neither the judiciary in Limburg nor in Liege would comment on that. No announcements are made about the further course of the comparison either. "It is up to the requesting party, in this case the Netherlands, to communicate about this," responsible advocate-general Jean-Baptiste Andries repeatedly informed.

Research by the cold case team Limburg shows that a possible role of Dutroux in Tanja Groen's disappearance cannot be excluded, it has only been superficially investigated.

BBM


As much as I would like to see Tanja's disappearance solved, I do not wish upon anyone to be a victim of Marc Dutroux and his wife.

"DNA material found in Marc Dutroux's cars and homes has been brought to the Netherlands."

"Two years after the disappearance of Tanja Groen, Dutroux kidnapped Julie Lejeune and Mélissa Russo in Grâce-Hollogne. That is barely 35 kilometers from Maastricht. In terms of time and place they are not that far apart."

SBM
Was Marc Dutroux ook de ontvoerder van Tanja Groen? DNA-materiaal wordt nu onderzocht in Nederland

From my memory, I do believe Dutroux was in possession of several cars..
So just wanted to add this, with the source.

ETA
A podcast can be found here:
DE STEMMEN VAN ASSISEN. Tanja Groen en de link naar Marc Dutroux: “Maastricht stond met een stift omcirkeld op zijn kaart”