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:goodpost: The reason we are here in JY's case is because of a judicial error, nothing more, nothing less. But, you make a great point, NC has a history of cases that need to be reviewed or looked at it , again..
I hope they do call her as a witness because she's the only witness the State produced and she obviously was confused. I think the jury needs to know the LE tactics that helped her identify Jason.
JMO
Is it really necessary to call Jason's Mother Mommy? Her name is Mrs. Young or Pat Young, and yes she is Jason's mother, but I find this disrespectful. She is also not on trial.
JMO
I hope they do call her as a witness because she's the only witness the State produced and she obviously was confused. I think the jury needs to know the LE tactics that helped her identify Jason.
JMO
Isn't it crazy how much people are obsessed with GB? And now there are accusations of LE "losing" items because it doesn't fit their evidence? It seems to me that some people think that all LEO/DA/Judges are crooked. Not only in this case but others as well. Just because a loved one is incarcarated doesn't mean they are innocent and that the big bad LE framed them. It's true their are some innocent people locked up and that is horrible, but that's not the case in all.........especially here! IMO
I also doubt JY will take a plea......if one is offered to him. Mommy will not let that happen. As a tax payer of NC I'm glad to pay for a new trial for him and MP. Doesn't bother me one bit. They are both guilty and belong behind bars where they can't hurt anyone else. IMO
Originally Posted by Glenn101 said:I will have to go back and check the search warrants. I think that LE obtained that video. I would like to see the videos of the hallway around the 11:19 mark and around the time the camera was bumped up toward the ceiling. I am also wondering how tight that camera was on its mount and if Elmer Goad actually made it looser while plugging the lens back in. Those cameras are heavier at the back end the way they are mounted and once loosened vibration from things such as doors closing could have made it move upward on its own.
Very interesting. I look forward to finding out what those search warrants do say because the testimony from the hotel employee was that the video was functioning except as they noted.
JMO
From the search warrant said:"On November 4th, 2006 investigators from the Wake County Sheriffs Office traveled to the Hampton
Inn in Hillsville, Virginia. The investigators were able to obtain computer records of Jason Young checking in
to the Hampton Inn on the night of November 2nd, 2006. In addition they were able to view a security video that
showed Jason Young at the front desk and in the lobby area of the Hampton Inn from 10:49 of to 10:51 pm
(SEE ATTACHMENT # ).
The security video was seized and taken into evidence by the Wake County investigators for use in the
continuing investigation and so that further analysis could be preformed. As part of the continuing analysis, the
video was transfer into a digital format that was placed on DVD's. This transfer made it simpler to review
images that had been recorded on the fourteen security cameras at the Hillsville, Virginia Hampton Inn The
video transfer was preformed by an analyst with the North Carolina State Bureau of Investigation and the
images were analyzed by an investigator in the Intelligence Unit of the Wake County Sheriff s Office."
I don't think it's crazy at all. This is the only witness who can place Jason Young somewhere he shouldn't be and it would seem very logical , imo, that people are curious. We have nothing else to go on, there were no cameras, no videos, no witness who was in the store, there isn't anyone else she related this encounter to, nothing. There isn't even anything on the record at the store showing there was a $5.00 overpayment for gasoline, and so , therefore, this testimony may be held to a even higher level, because she is an eye witness.
Testimony from an eye witness has to be strong, it has to be looked at from every angle and direction and it has to stand up on its own. It is also up to the courts to prove that it meets that standard.
JMO
It has nothing to do with whether I like what she says or doesn't say. It has to do with giving an accurate description of Jason, something she has never been able to do.
The search warrant was for the storage unit in Etowah, 120 Oakland Hills Drive.
It can be found at http://www.wral.com/specialreports/michelleyoung/asset_gallery/3401559/
I will quote the pertinent portion:
The LE does have the tape, of all of the cameras in the HI. I wonder if either defense requested copies and actually reviewed them in depth. I have not read or heard anyone post a plausible explanation of how Jason actually got to that camera undetected. I can see how he could have unplugged the camera fairly easily once he got under it, but for now, I can see no way that he could have gotten there from his room undetected. As usual, I am open to evidence that would prove otherwise.
Glenn
Who are all these crooked LE people in NC? There have been some as well as a bad DA. But All? No. Just no. I've seen some ineptness though. Fortunately the vast majority of people do a good job and are honest, decent folk.
A blanket statement like "LE in NC has proven itself to be crooked" is simply false.
No, it is a true statement. I didn't say every LEO has been crooked, but LE and DA's in general have been in the news nonstop for the past decade due to unfair practices that put innocent people in jail. Is it really necessary to review every one, starting with Nifong and ending with the news just LAST WEEK. Yes, there have been some good DA's and LEO's. However, the evidence of misconduct in North Carolina is growing by the day, and it is ABSOLUTELY within the scope of the examination of this and other trials to evaluate the conduct of LE and the DA without a presumption of honesty and integrity.
oenophile, this was in your link and I hope the same thing happens in the Young case. Focus on finding the people who left the unknown DNA at the crime scene:
In overturning Howards conviction, Superior Court Judge Orlando Hudson found that prosecutors withheld evidence and that a police officer misled the jury......
...Saifee said she hopes prosecutors will choose not to seek a new trial, and instead focus on prosecuting the alternate suspects implicated by DNA tests.
GC was employed at 4 Bros, conducted customer transactions, and was on duty and said she saw JY at ~5:30am on the morning in question. You can choose not to believe her. So can jurors. But she exists, is a party to this case as a witness. Just because one may not like what she says does not mean her testimony should be excluded. It is what it is.
Mommy,Mother,Mama,Mom...it's all the same. Sorry you find this disrespectful......but isn't that how he refers to her?
Funny you say PY is not on trial.................hmmmmmmm
No, it is a true statement. I didn't say every LEO has been crooked, but LE and DA's in general have been in the news nonstop for the past decade due to unfair practices that put innocent people in jail. Is it really necessary to review every one, starting with Nifong and ending with the news just LAST WEEK. Yes, there have been some good DA's and LEO's. However, the evidence of misconduct in North Carolina is growing by the day, and it is ABSOLUTELY within the scope of the examination of this and other trials to evaluate the conduct of LE and the DA without a presumption of honesty and integrity.
What is scary is the paragraph immediately prior:
Current prosecutors have indicated they will retry Howard, and asked Friday that he be held in jail rather than released on bail until his new trial. They cited his criminal record before the arrests, which included convictions for armed robbery and breaking and entering.
Why exactly would they plan to retry Howard when the evidence that was hidden exonerates him? When they found the guy that sexual assaulted the victim? Could it be because the prosecutor is so invested in a case that they are unwilling to seek justice? THIS is exactly the problem, it is a virus that infects the entire judicial system.
Fair enough. Having said that which specific LEO's and DA's are you prepared to cite in this specific case? One would assume that you are ready to question their honesty and integrity? Where do we start and how do we proceed?
