I was wondering what happened over on the other thread because I couldn't "Quote" anyone! I thought I was in trouble! :truce: I wanted to address the thought that the video was fake. IMHO, it was NOT fake, but I can see how someone would think that. For one thing, it is heavily edited, as I have said all along. The victim is drugged so he is not, and NEVER was, an active participant in what was happening. I believe he had been dead for a while before the ice pick was used to stab him. If the body had been dead for a while, the blood would have begun to settle, and there would be very little 'gore' in terms of the stabbing. The dismemberment part of the video is also very edited. At the very beginning of the video, when the victim is still alive, JRM moves an object from the floor on the right side of the bed - what was it? My first thought when I saw it, was a saw, but then my imagination tends to run away at times. I can't go back and watch it again right now because I just can't.... maybe latter. One last point - the "fat" that was cut from the hip for the cannibal part of the video: I don't think that is fake either. I have been present during an autopsy, and true "fat" is yellow and looks a lot like the fat you see on a chicken from the grocery store, but hip "muscle" is not the same kind of fat. That part looked real to me. I don't think he ate it however.... he lifted the fork just out of camera range and then he called in the little dog. I think the dog had been starved because I don't believe most dogs would have done what this little one did. What a JM is... I hate him, and I want him caught so bad!!!!