MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #3

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That a woman scorned can get very angry we know of.
RSBM
Women can get very angry... so therefore KR murdered someone?

Why not just say "Everyone knows womenfolk are emotional and can't control their impulses"?

What a disservice to our gender, believing and spreading such misogyny.

Edit: "our" not "your"
 
Anyone have any ideas which part of her testimony opened the door for witnesses to talk about harassment they have received from the public?
You'd have to ask the judge. Both the defense and the prosecution during pre-lim wanted all discussion of Turtleboy's activities barred. The judge said she'd see about that later.
 
We are back.
ADA Lally questioning Allison McCabe.
She testifies she did not go into Fairview when she got there.
She says Colin had no injuries, was normal. Detailing her ride to his home. She waited for him to get into his home. She does not remember what they spoke about.


Allison McCabe testified she got home about 12:30, her parents were not home.
When she woke up in the morning her parents were home.
She doesn’t know what time she got up.Lally asking about her State Police interview.
She provided them with text messages from Colin.


The interview was Aug 2023.
She may have upgraded her phone between Jan 2022 & Aug 2023.
Lally asking if all the data transferred.- yesText messages, etc - yesLally gives her a document to review.
She confirms they are the texts.


Yannetti is up with an objection, asks to be heard.
Sidebar


Jurors are being asked to step out by the judge.


The text messages are being entered.
The jury is not in the courtroom.
Lally asking when the texts were exchanged
-Jan 28
Beyond these screenshots, you’ve had other text exchanges with Colin?
-yes
Lally asking a convoluted series of questions, which I don’t understand


Neither does the witness, and the judge asks him to make it simple.
Basically, he’s asking Allison if these screenshots are of the text exchange, and are between her & Colin

Yannetti up now.
The jurors are not in the courtroom.
Yannetti establishing that Allison is well versed with an IPhone, texting and apps.
You know you can delete a text from a thread?
-yes
You click on the trash can.
What happens to message?
- it’s gone


Looking at a screenshot, you couldn’t tell if the message was ever there?
-correct
Yannetti asking when she got her new phone.
Established it was before the Fed Grand Jury hearing.
Where is the physical phone?
-I don’t know
Did an investigator ask for the phone?
-no


Judge interrupts him.
Asks him to stick to the voir dire.
Yannetti says he was laying foundation.
Judge expresses concern for jurors, changes direction and tells him to go ahead.


Yannetti asking Allison McCabe if she knew she could change the time on her cell phone to change the times on texts & photos. He is going into great detail.
Allison says she did not know that. She didn’t do that.
Voir dire is over. Jury coming back in.

Judge asks for a sidebar


Everyone was standing waiting for jury.

Judge directs officer to tell us to sit down. Now they’re here.


Yannetti asks for another sidebar.

Says to jury “Sorry!

Completely my fault”A few of them laugh, as does the judge.


Judge giving the jury instructions again about electronic communication. If it’s more likely than not to you that the communication is from the people it says it’s from, then you can consider it as evidence.


Lally asking about Colin’s contact info.
Allison says she entered it.Confirming it was his number, she texted him before.
Texts on screen say Colin11:54
- you can get me now if easier
Allison12:10
- here
Allston looking at pictures.

She says they are from Feb 11 2022, at Albert’s, pictures were to celebrate a family member coming home from military service. It’s a pic of Colin and Aunt Nicole.


The next picture is of Colin & someone else who is blacked out.
Colin is in a T ShirtIs this a fair and accurate portrayal of how he looked?
Yes
Lally done.
Yannetti up


Yannetti drawing the family connections between the McCabes & Alberts.
Allison agrees Colin is one of her best friends.
You claim text exchange occurred on 1/29
-yes
On 1/29, 30 31 did you hand the screenshot to law enforcement?
- i was never asked
No one asked you?
-correct


Yannetti establishing that no law enforcement asked for screenshot.You didn’t offer it in 2022?
-it wasn’t relevant.
By the summer of 2023 you had switched phones?
-correct
You had a new IPhone?
-correct

You claim you transferred all the data.When did you take that screenshot?
- I don’t remember
Before or after the new phone?
- I don’t remember
Before you got rid of the old phone & got the new one, did any investigator ask for the phone?
-no
Did they offer to an extraction?



-no
Talking about the hearing in 2023, that prosecution & defense weren’t at, is the first time the screenshot came up.
Aug 2023, you were interviewed by Troopers via zoom
-correct

You mother was present?
-ok
She was monitoring?
- I don’t know


You’ve had an IPhone for 7-8 years, you know how to use an IPhone?
-correct
Yannetti going thru what he did in voir dire, all the things you can do with text messages.
What does the trash can icon do?
-deletes messages
The screenshot shows there were no deleted text messages?
- true

But if you had deleted a message, we wouldn’t know?
-true
Yannetti listing all the places apps can be,Yannetti makes a joke “Not bad for an old guy” Gets a laugh from jury, and Allison.
Yannetti asking about the app that their family uses to track the kids.


Yannetti asking like he did on Voir Dire does she know you can change the time on texts & pix via the settings?
-I didn’t know that
I’m not accusing you, but if the time was changed, that’s what would happen.
- yes
Have the State Police asked to look thru your new phone?
-no


When you gave the screenshot to State Police, did they ask to see your new phone?
-no
Did they ask for an extraction on the phones?
-no
At some point you knew you’d be a witness in this case and have the unfortunate experience of talking to me?Objection



Sidebar


To this day no extraction has been done?
-correct
On the zoom interview Aug 25, you said you drove Colin straight home, and you went straight home.
-correct
You’re familiar with the area, you’re a Canton girl?
-yes


What the route you took to pick up Colin?
- I don’t remember.
Don’t know the street names.
Yannetti gives her some landmarks.
- I’m bad with directions.
Establish eventually that she would have passed by the library.
Testifies she got home and stayed home.


Says she got home about 12:30ish
Talking about the Life360 app her family used.
On Jan 29 12:04, you arrived in your home circle.12:06, you left12:23 completed 7 mile drive12:23 you left12:26 you left home12:26 arrive at Canton HS12:26 completed 1 mile drive


12:29 you arrive

1:08 you arrive home
1:28 at high school

I missed a couple of data points,But it does not match her testimony.
Allison disputed every bit of this data.
Asks to see it.
Yannetti offers his readers - she laughs


Does this refresh your memory.
-no
1:28 you arrive at the high school
1:30 you arrive home - it wouldn’t take me 2 minutes to travel from the HS to home
Is the high school one of the bubbles - a general location?
-yes
The last entry is you completed a 12 mile drive at 1:32


Would agree that’s when you arrived home?
- I don’t recall
Yannetti done

Lally up
Establishing the new phone.
Did you delete any info regarding Colin!
-no
Were you aware that you could change time stamps on your phone?
-no


Is the Life360 data accurate?
-the WiFi could have impacted it.
Every data point shown to me said something about WiFi
Lally asking about the relevancy of the screenshot,
She says Colin was not at the house.The door for the discussion about harassment is open.


Allison is directly speaking to the jury about the harassment from a blogger.
She cries, asks for a moment.
Lally asks how long it has been going on.
- a very long time.
Some members of the jury are visibly moved.
Lally is done.
Yannetti had no further questions


@SueNBCBoston
 
Screenshots of text messages between Colin Albert and Allison McCabe were shown to the jury. Colin had asked her to pick him up that night. She texted "here" at 12:10am. There has been previous testimony that Colin Albert left the Alberts' home shortly after they got home from the bar.



Defense cross-exam concentrates on the possibility that texts can be deleted inside a text thread and LE not asking for her phone or conducting an extraction of her phone, etc...
 
I was also at first thinking he was feeling upset and trying to remain composed, then as honed in on his face I saw fear and nervousness as a kid in facing big trouble.

The more I think about it, the more I can't understand all these people circling their wagons like they are except for one reason. To save one of their own.
 
The more I think about it, the more I can't understand all these people circling their wagons like they are except for one reason. To save one of their own.
100 percent they have been. JMc wanting screenshots of texts, all the obvious and could care less attitudes about helping to solve by some of them, on the stand. Destroyed phones. If that pic of Colin's knuckles is from that night, I wonder if Caitlin would of noticed, not that she'd say if she did. His response about JO seemed 'normal' in response. His face seemed relaxed at that point. 'A nice guy, a good guy' seemed for real. After that he did get the very nervous , fearful and distracted look.
 
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Prosecution calls Colin Albert
He is 20, life long Canton resident, lives with parents & siblings. Is a junior in college.
Lally establishing 1/28, 29
He was a HS senior.
Everyone in the jury is paying to him.
Colin doesn’t remember what time he went out on the 28th.


He went to Mike’s. Who else was there? I don’t remember. But other people were there?
-yes
He doesn’t remember how he got there.
Lally asks: walk drive-drive Who took you?
- I don’t remember


They drank some Bud Lights.He then went to the Alberts.He believes Allison McCabe gave him a ride to Fairview.
Allison is his cousin’s cousin, they went to school together, in same grade.
Got to Fairview 10:30 -11
He had a curfew of around 12.


He entered thru the kitchen.
He’s listing the people he remembers who there for Little Brian’s party.
Lally establishing that the people there were older than him.
He had Bud Lite, doesn’t remember how many.
Did you feel drunk?
-no


Was anyone fall-down drunk?
-no
What was the mood?
- happy
Did you see anyone go anywhere in the house?
- no
How long were you there?
- about an hour and a half
What time did you leave?
-12:10


Who did you reach out to to get a ride home?
- my friend Ally McCabe
Lally establishing legitimacy of possible text exchanges.


Colin reiterating he texted Allison for a ride.
Says he saw Brian & Nicole coming home.
He spoke with them.
Allison was in the driveway in the car.
He doesn’t remember what door he got into the car. He doesn’t remember if anyone else was in the car.


Colin thinks it was snowing. Testifies Ally took him straight home.
Were the Jen or Matt McCabes vehicles at Fairview when you left?
-no


How do you get into your home?
- a key or I get buzzed in, have to go up 3 flights of stairs.
Do you know of A McCabe was still there?
- I don’t know
Who was home?
-parents and brother
- I always tell my parents I’m home, I go to their room, say I love you, hug them go to bed


Did you do that that night?
-yes
What time was this about 12:30.
How long have you been living in the condo?
- I don’t know
- short time, a couple of months
Living on Meadows Ave,
did you know John OKeefe?
- yes
- I knew him because my parents were friendly with him.


Do you know who lived with him?
- the kids he adopted His niece & nephew?
- yes
Ever animosity or argument you had with OKeefe?
-Never
How would you describe him?
- nice guy

Did you see OKeefe on 1/28 or 1/29 anywhere?
Inside or outside Fairview?
- no
Do you know Karen Read?
- I knew she was John OKeefe’s girlfriend.
Do you know what she looked like?
- not really.


Is reaching out to Ally McCabe something you’ve done before?
-yes
If someone had been drinking you’d call for a ride?
-yes
Did you give State Police a screenshot of your phone?
-yes
Lally gives him a document.


Colin Albert says it’s a screenshot of his text message with A McCabe.


Judge asks the jurors to remember the instruction about text messages.Lally puts the screenshot on the screen.


Colin reads the text exchange screenshot.Lally gives him the picturesfrom Feb 11, the party he was at for his cousin’s return from the Marines. So far, Lally’s questioning of Colin is similar to that of A McCabe.


Did you see anyone else other than Nicole & Brian at Fairview?
- no

That’s it for today, the jury is being released for the day.


Judge asking council if there is any issues they can deal with now to save time for tomorrow?
No
She says “We WILL start at 9a tomorrow”


Processing how seemingly unprepared Allison McCabe was when confronted with the Life360 data.


@SueNBCBoston
 

DEDHAM, Mass. (Court TV) — Massachusetts woman Karen Read is standing trial on murder and manslaughter charges for the death of her boyfriend, John O’Keefe. The following are digital copies of exhibits that were entered into evidence and provided to the media by the Norfolk County Superior Court.

CATCH UP ON THE FACTS | MA v. Karen Read: Killer or Cover-Up Trial Highlights
 

Colin says he was drinking Bud Light's the night of Jan 28. Started at his friend Mike's house. Was there a few hours. Then went to Uncle Brian's house on Fairview.

Colin ALbert says he believes his close friend Allie McCabe gave him a ride from Mike's to Uncle Brian's house. He thinks he got there around 10:30 or so. He has a midnight curfew


Colin says he drank more bud lights but says he wasn't intoxicated or falling down drunk. No one at the party was. Says he never went to the basement or upstairs.


Colin says he was at the house "probably like an hour and a half." He says he believed he left at 12:10.

Colin says he took screenshoys of his convo with Allie about getting picked up around midnite 1-28-22. The Jury sees those.


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Has it been brought up about COLIN's look about him of being in a fight? WELL HE WAS, but not sure of it's been timelined. Oh boy, hence the huge coverup for him. That age, getting into it with an older and known neighbor, prev and knowing he's a cop and no thinking of consequences would be a drunk teen or age group 'thing to do', then beat feet. Afraid after of big trouble for it once he became 'lucid' about it , then a 'few hours later to hear JO died due to it. ALL of them would spring to the circle the wagons. No minds of their own/ conscience as all 'in' with the group, till one is not and understandably be watching his or her back forever. They've heard the stories.
 
We'll hear more later, but just pointing out Allison McCabe's father Matt, as we've heard, husband of Jen, is a cyberspace IT expert. Again, just saying.

 
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