ME ME - Ayla Reynolds, 20 mnths, Waterville, 17 December 2011 - # 6

[naturallyme]

I think it varies from state to state, and probably even from county to county. Police here in my county make removals, and the children are transported to what is called "The Rainbow Room" at the CPS annex. From there, the child is either taken to a foster home or released to a relative. Caseworkers pretty much do the same thing. I have been told that caseworkers rarely face resistance from parents; they let the children go willingly. Parents will be vindictive though, by not allowing a caseworker to take a child's clothes or formula or favorite toy. Parents will often say things like "if you're taking my child, you provide for him/her." That of course makes it more traumatic for the child, and harder for the caseworker.

In this case, it doesn't seem like this was an actual "removal" but for the fact that there was a family team meeting at some point. Being removed from the home is a traumatic experience for a child, no matter who removes them. Even very young children have trouble, although most will eventually adjust to their new surroundings provided that they are taken to a good and understanding environment.

Even if TR wanted Ayla left with her mother and sister, I think it is absolutely true that a father has rights to HIS child that outweigh the rights of an aunt or grandmother. If no custody order is in place, I believe both parents are presumed to have equal custodial rights...

All of this is IMO, based on experiences and such---I am in no way implying that all states/counties operate like this...

BBM

I agree to a point...that point being if the parent has provided for the child financially, emotionally and been a part of that child's life, yes I agree......I don't agree if the only roll that parent has played is egg or sperm donor. I just don't think that having the ability to bring a child into this world automatically makes them a parent or gives them parental rights that supersede the best interest of the child.

 

[HiHater]

BBM

I agree with the bolded above. But my question is about the legal paternity
paperwork. AFAIK, there was never any legal verification of paternity. Correct?

We don't really know if there was any legal verification, but since DHHS treated him as Ayla's father, I would assume that there was.

I looked up Acknowledgement of Paternity info for Maine, and if I had to bet I'd say that is what was signed in this case. Even if JD wasn't at the birth, in Maine there is no time limit on when it can be signed.

http://www.maine.gov/dhhs/ofi/dser/paternity/faq.html

 

[HiHater]

BBM

I agree to a point...that point being if the parent has provided for the child financially, emotionally and been a part of that child's life, yes I agree......I don't agree if the only roll that parent has played is egg or sperm donor. I just don't think that having the ability to bring a child into this world automatically makes them a parent or gives them parental rights that supersede the best interest of the child.

That's very valid, the reason for a father's absence can be beyond his control in a sense. Yes some of them are just deadbeats, but other times they are pushed away or have to be at the mercy of a mother who plays all types of games.

 

[menmo]

BBM

I'll ask the same question people have asked about JD, couldn't she just go on to plea for the return of her daughter? She's spoken at length about the bruising and Ayla's other "injuries" so what would be the part that she can no longer speak about? She's also never been prohibited from speaking about JD before, perhaps there's new info that LE has and is trying to protect?

JD didn't want to talk, he invokes LE and hindering the invetstigation---yet LE said they are not stopping him from talking....is this the same sort of situation? All of this is JMO, and I promise I'm trying not to be cynical about all of the players in this case, but it's hard!

I'm wondering if JD has gotten an attorney and that attorney has written a stern warning stating for TR to stop the defamation about his client, JD, or they'll see her in court? Would mommy, PD, pay for an attorney for her son? I believe so.


MOO

 

[NFYIAMY]

TR didn't give a reason for not being able to talk about these particular topics. PH believes she has been urged by LE not to discuss these issues, but he doesn't know for sure. That could be true. Or maybe TR doesn't want to further antagonize JD for fear that the truth will never come out. PH further states: Believing that she is deceased, I can't, in good conscience, have anything to do with raising money or giving "hope", tugging on listeners' emotions. If the only questions that can be asked have to do with such things as fund raising, it is outside the scope of what our program is about.

All MOO

Sounds like maybe Trista was looking for money to do the interview? When that didn't happen - she limited the scope of questions that could be asked?

I wonder how much money she has made to date off of Ayla's disappearance?

 

[deoneta]

Sounds like maybe Trista was looking for money to do the interview? When that didn't happen - she limited the scope of questions that could be asked?

I wonder how much money she has made to date off of Ayla's disappearance?

She could have asked for money for all I know, but PH doesn't pay for interviews. His point about fund raising is that he won't promo funds set up by family members, only donations made directly to search organizations. None of the networks will pay for interviews. If any money has been paid to any family members for use of photos, it hasn't been revealed. All MOO.

 

[cluciano63]

Sounds like maybe Trista was looking for money to do the interview? When that didn't happen - she limited the scope of questions that could be asked?

I wonder how much money she has made to date off of Ayla's disappearance?

Where does it say she asked for money, I missed that part.
So if JD isn't giving interviews, is that also because they won't pay him?

 

[LvsAMystry]

Sounds like maybe Trista was looking for money to do the interview? When that didn't happen - she limited the scope of questions that could be asked?

I wonder how much money she has made to date off of Ayla's disappearance?

Agreed. I feel $$ was asked for as "fundraising" and thats what is being alluded to.

I also wouldn't be surprised if she hasn't been warned off making unsupported accusations in terms of the bruising etc.. I always thought it strange that seemed to be her focus from day one. Initially made me wonder if the idea was to generate such public poor press and opinion of JD that by the time Ayla surfaced public outcry would be same if she were returned to anyone other than TR.

But time has gone by, so many questions on both sides; where is she?

 

[cluciano63]

If I was Trista, my focus would be on Ayla's prior injuries, I can say that much with certainty.

 

[HiHater]

If I was Trista, my focus would be on Ayla's prior injuries, I can say that much with certainty.

If I was Trista, I wouldn't bring up any prior injuries that had not been documented with some other agency or photographed. Unless she called DHHS or CPS or the police every time she was suspicious of an injury, she looks like she's only saying something after the fact and did nothing to protect the child.

For me, there has been nothing that suggests JD was abusive to Ayla, aside from TR's assertions. Kids play rough, and some of them bruise easily.

 

[HiHater]

Where does it say she asked for money, I missed that part.
So if JD isn't giving interviews, is that also because they won't pay him?

Per the above post by hoppy:

PH further states: Believing that she is deceased, I can't, in good conscience, have anything to do with raising money or giving "hope", tugging on listeners' emotions. If the only questions that can be asked have to do with such things as fund raising, it is outside the scope of what our program is about.

So she's not asking for money directly for herself, but she may have wanted to plug or promote the find ayla reynolds groups and associated donations...JMO

 

[cluciano63]

Per the above post by hoppy:



So she's not asking for money directly for herself, but she may have wanted to plug or promote the find ayla reynolds groups and associated donations...JMO

Or PH is wanting to give that impression for some reason. I have my doubts about his "conscious", personally.

 

[deoneta]

We sure are talking a lot about PH so I hope this doesn't end up all removed. He said nothing about TR asking for money or asking to promote any fund set up. What he did say was that he wouldn't discuss the websites set up by both sides of the family because they asked for donations and in such cases, it wasn't always clear how the donated money was being spent. He didn't accuse either the Reynolds or DiPrietos of any misuse of funds, just stating that he doesn't want to publicize funds set up by the families of victims. All MOO.

 

[Helenstreet]

If I was Trista, I wouldn't bring up any prior injuries that had not been documented with some other agency or photographed. Unless she called DHHS or CPS or the police every time she was suspicious of an injury, she looks like she's only saying something after the fact and did nothing to protect the child.

For me, there has been nothing that suggests JD was abusive to Ayla, aside from TR's assertions. Kids play rough, and some of them bruise easily.

Actually, hasn't it been stated by members of Trista's family that they have reported Ayla's injuries to CPS?

 

[naturallyme]

Much more detailed info. has been given in the Help Find Ayla FB page.

Go to the first article on the page and then click continue story.

 

[Helenstreet]

Regarding PR, he was the one who chose to cancel the interview with Trista--for now. His reasons for canceling are quite clear:

Trista agreed to be on the show but told him that she couldn't answer questions regarding JP, CR, family, or Ayla's injuries. PR clearly stated that those were the very issues that he wanted to cover. He has not found Trista to be deceptive at all, and he believes that she has been counseled by law enforcement to not discuss these issues. He never stated that Trista's purpose for being on his show was for fundraising. He stated that he believes that Ayla is deceased, and didn't want to give false hope to his audience (I don't remember the exact wording). His talk about fundraising and everything else was mentioned secondarily to his clearly stated reasons for canceling the interview. In my opinion, it actually sounds like PR has developed quite a bit of respect for Trista. If anyone still has any questions regarding why the show was canceled, whether Trista canceled it, or that she has any ulterior motives for having the show canceled--I recommend that you go to the blog and read PR's statements. MOO.....

 

[HiHater]

Much more detailed info. has been given in on the Help Find Ayla FB page.

Go to the first article on the page and then click continue story.

Well...there's been some obvious revisions done there as well.

At any rate, now that this has been published there, can it be quoted here?

 

[deoneta]

If I was Trista, I wouldn't bring up any prior injuries that had not been documented with some other agency or photographed. Unless she called DHHS or CPS or the police every time she was suspicious of an injury, she looks like she's only saying something after the fact and did nothing to protect the child.

For me, there has been nothing that suggests JD was abusive to Ayla, aside from TR's assertions. Kids play rough, and some of them bruise easily.

It all depends on whom you are willing to believe. LE's statement refuting JD's assertion that he was not told how he did on the LDT, PD's "clarification" of her whereabouts on the Friday night in question and the whole deal with Harry's website make me skeptical of any statements they make. A lot of people see inconsistences in TR's interviews, but imo, I've seen nothing that raises huge red flags. TR's sister did say that HHS was informed of the injuries. Apparently TR did have her doubts about JD's version of events, but when children are too young to speak for themselves, it's difficult to prove anything one way or another. The delay in treatment after the fall, the story of "fighting" in the Chuck E Cheese ball pit, the missed specialist's appointment, especially in light of the subsequent disappearance from the DiPietro home, do nothing to raise JD's credibililty in my eyes. All MOO.

 

[askfornina]

Well...there's been some obvious revisions done there as well.

At any rate, now that this has been published there, can it be quoted here?

I am about to PM a mod and ask, I have the old version and now the revised version and I'm wondering if I can put them in my timeline.

 

[naturallyme]

Well...there's been some obvious revisions done there as well.

At any rate, now that this has been published there, can it be quoted here?

Not sure about quoting or linked but I think it can be discussed.

The same info can be found by going to Ayla's page set up by Trista and clicking on Content and then download Timeline.

I would think if it was on a page devoted to Ayla that it could at least be discussed.