GUILTY MI - Carnel Chamberlain, 4, Mount Pleasant, 21 June 2012 #1

[Cubby]

I havnt seen it stated that way before...that no one was home when she arrived. In moo that changes everyhing, Carnel could be anywhere within driving distance. Anyone else seen this before?

I can't be for sure/Thinking outloud... but I'm now remembering initial msm stated she arrived home around 9:30 and the missing persons report was called in around 10:10pm. I have to go back and find out what time her shift ended, but iirc it was closer to 10:00 pm. Which leaves me wondering how long mom was at home waiting for them to arrive. And if the vehicle AB returned on was the ATV mentioned being taken by a neighbor.

and where does AB washing the pool fit into all of this?

Lot's of questions.

 

[GateKeeper]

Thanks SO much for going out this weekend and searching for Carnel !!! Im glad we have a local there to help us along the way. Its MUCH appreciated.

:cheers:

 

[Cubby]

Ok found it. Her shift ended at 10:00pm, but she arrived home at 9:30pm. Not unusual for the restaurant business... slow night people go home early. It really sounds like AB didn't expect her to arrive home early from her scheduled shift.

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It will be interesting to see who saw AB on the ATV, if that was his mode of transportation and where. Who might have noticed what time they left. I'm sure LE canvased the neighborhood....

 

[katydid23]

The only people who can use the campground are natives...and id bet the farm he wasnt taken by a native

Reason I say this is only native on native crime usually is DV.

But the prime suspect is a native. Right?

 

[Cubby]

But the prime suspect is a native. Right?

Technically "person of interest", but yes, AB is a Native.

 

[katydid23]

I havnt seen it stated that way before...that no one was home when she arrived. In moo that changes everyhing, Carnel could be anywhere within driving distance. Anyone else seen this before?

Cops took an ATV 4 -wheeler with them to forensics. So maybe the suspect did not have access to a car. Mom probably had it at work. But an ATV can go a long way too. And off road.

 

[Jan]

Where can I find the mom's facebook page? Thanks for any help!

 

[katydid23]

Technically "person of interest", but yes, AB is a Native.

Technically, a POI. But I bet he is actually the prime suspect. He was in charge of the boy when he went missing. And then was not cooperative. That smells like 'prime suspect' to me.

 

[longtallcold]

But the prime suspect is a native. Right?

Sorry, what I meant was "abducted from the campground" by a native

 

[longtallcold]

Where can I find the mom's facebook page? Thanks for any help!

just search the last name and she comes up

 

[longtallcold]

Mom has had a difficult life, and with all this on top of it (regardless of how you feel her actions contributed), she is not a suspect here, she is a victim...i'd just like to see her treated as one, I guess. TIA

 

[longtallcold]

No different than any other thread on WS - we dont treat ppl like suspects who are victims.

 

[GateKeeper]

Mom's place of employment:

http://www.soaringeaglecasino.com/isabellas.htm

From link:

Breakfast: Served Daily 7AM - Noon
Dinner: Served Daily 5PM - 10PM

Resort property map and address:
http://www.soaringeaglecasino.com/img/Resort/PropertyMap.pdf

Soaring Eagle Casino & Resort
6800 Soaring Eagle Boulevard
Mount Pleasant, Michigan 48858

According to goggle maps, mom's home is about 1.8 miles from work, or a five minute car ride.

Looks like dinner ends at 10...but yes,it could have been slow,or whatever. But,my guess is,AB wouldnt have expected her home until AFTER 10.
Just speculating here...

IMO

SORRY CUBBY...you beat me to it. Youre to fast!

 

[katydid23]

Mom has had a difficult life, and with all this on top of it (regardless of how you feel her actions contributed), she is not a suspect here, she is a victim...i'd just like to see her treated as one, I guess. TIA

I understand completely. I guess some are just really tired of this same old scenario. It is like the exact same script over and over. Young single mom meets ex-felon as he is released from prison,gives him a key to the apartment, and soon he is watching her babies while she goes to work at the late shift. Then baby is beaten or killed or raped or neglected or ...whatever.

So it is not fair to dump all of our frustrations upon her, but it is really frustrating to see this exact same situation repeat itself over and over. kwim?

 

[Amster]

She didnt lock her son in a closet with no food to starve to death...she didnt strap him into his carseat and run the car into a pond, she didnt chloroform him and duct tape him and toss him out with the trash, she didnt blame it on a carjacking by a black guy, she didnt claim a stranger abducted him out his window, she didnt claim she gave him to a "group" , she didnt claim he was on the beach one minute and gone the next.....

My point is mom has been talking to media (which is what you all scream for) and has been cooperating, so whatever "bad judgement' in YOUR eyes she made, lets leave it there, as I am pretty sure she has enough of her own crap going through her head with out internet strangers adding more.

Hope I got my point across.

Oh absolutely! Totally a victim. No matter what. Got it.

 

[Cubby]

Looks like dinner ends at 10...but yes,it could have been slow,or whatever. But,my guess is,AB wouldnt have expected her home until AFTER 10.
Just speculating here...

IMO

One of the MSM articles, the one which listed her shift, iirc, stated her position was hostess versus waitress. They usually leave earlier than wait staff when the dinner rush is basically over.

 

[Mimiof8]

It looks like a family member is working on a fb page for Carnel. Its not up yet. Is it ok to post the link once its public?

Longtallcold, I am sorry for anything I may have said that treated Carnels mom as a suspect. I meant no disrespect. Karen

 

[longtallcold]

I understand completely. I guess some are just really tired of this same old scenario. It is like the exact same script over and over. Young single mom meets ex-felon as he is released from prison,gives him a key to the apartment, and soon he is watching her babies while she goes to work at the late shift. Then baby is beaten or killed or raped or neglected or ...whatever.

So it is not fair to dump all of our frustrations upon her, but it is really frustrating to see this exact same situation repeat itself over and over. kwim?

I do kwum however is it fair for one person (her) to catch the frustration over all the many cases we have seen? No, of course not...it works both ways is all im saying .. lets be victim friendly and from here out try to spread word that the biggest danger to our kids is mommy or daddys new boyfriend or girlfriend!

Lets make flyers and post em everywhere!! Im serious!

 

[longtallcold]

It looks like a family member is working on a fb page for Carnel. Its not up yet. Is it ok to post the link once its public?

Longtallcold, I am sorry for anything I may have said that treated Carnels mom as a suspect. I meant no disrespect. Karen

OMG not at all kseal - not at all ! I was just hoping to cut if off at the pass ! And yes please post FB page when made public!

 

[longtallcold]

Oh absolutely! Totally a victim. No matter what. Got it.

I sense some sarcasm here...maybe I am wrong but I guess ill let mods decide what is allowed and what isnt ok?