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Floyd's passenger emerges as complicated figure in Chauvin trial

George Floyd said over and over that he could not breathe as Minneapolis police pinned him to the ground last May. He told his late mother that he loved her. Then he called out to a friend across the street.

"I love you, Reese!" Floyd said.

That was his nickname for Morries Lester Hall, a man who was a passenger in Floyd's car the last night of his life and is now emerging as a controversial figure in the murder trial of former police officer Derek Chauvin.
 
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WEEKEND MEDIA UPDATES AND THREAD CONTRIBUTIONS​

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Law and Crime Network roundup of 1st week trial testimony, and discussion of Mr. (Morries/Maurice) Hall.


--- Posted by @turaj

another BCA Interview with Thomas Lane....one of the rookies..
Thomas Lane BCA interview in George Floyd death

Listening to this makes me angry that Chauvin/Thao decided to come to Cups Foods...Nathan sounds reasonable...of course he was lawyered up but I think he would testify that it was 'TOO MUCH FORCE" and very much regrets not having done more.

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came across this BCA Interview with Thao....despite living in Minneapolis some things are just now coming to my attention...Squad 320 really got the Cup Foods call and the squad of Chauvin and Thao were back up...they were called off but chose to go anyway!!! Have to think if the rookies handled this call it would have been much different.

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The above post has the video/audio of Thao interview, and the audio of Lane. For folks who prefer, here is the transcript of Lane's audio.

Posted on MT by @GarAndTeed


https://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgo...Cases/27-CR-20-12951-TKL/Exhibit107072020.pdf
Transcript of interview with Thomas Lane.
 
Update on witness list
-Through Day 10-
(Friday 4/9/2021 )​



Day 1
Opening Statements
1) 911 MPD Dispatcher Jena Scurry (not to be confused with 911 call taker or fire dispatcher)
2) Speedway gas station cashier All*sha Oy*er
3) MMA guy D*nald W*lliams (prosecution only today)

Day 2
3) witness - From Yesterday, defense follow up etc with MMA guy D*nald W*lliams - he called 911
4) witness - Darn**la - was minor at the time and now 18 - she did the "viral video" that the world has seen and had little cousin with her in green shirt
5) witness - Little cousin in green (not posting any info here at WS... due to minor)
6) witness - Aly*** who was wearing white shirt and blue jeans in group shot.. knows witness #4 from school and knows another person there she drove there with ( young female K**lyn at scene with large bag on shoulder who is #7 witness) She drove up after FG was on ground -took 3 videos.
7) witness - K**lyn (?sp) Arrived with #6 witness. Minor, 17 year old. Friend of #6 Aly***. She circled her photo of standing on the curb.. had large beige bag on shoulder next to MMA guy.
8) witness - 27 yo Lady firefighter/EMT GH who was in all black with white headband that day, with CPR training (wearing uniform in court) from Minneapolis who was on a walk who took video and did 911 call. She was 7th person to arrive on the curb with others watching . The judge chewed her out at the end of today for "arguing with the court" and arguing with attorneys.

Day 3
8) Genev*eve Hans*n cont'd - Firefighter/EMT (defense questions)
9) Christopher Mart*n 19 y/o who worked in CUP FOOD store and accepted the $20 bill.
10) Christopher B*lrey 45 y/o who pulled up behind GF's car, filmed a little then left the scene
11) Charles Mcmi*lian 61 y/o who was first on scene when at CUP food wearing black shirt with white square emblem - "You can't win"
12) Lt. James Rugel with IT responsibility for body and street cams.

Day 4
13) Courtn*y R*ss GF girlfriend since 2017
14) Seth Zach*ry Bravinder - Ambulance/EMS driver
15) Eerek Smith - Ambulance/EMS who did pulse and compressions
16) Jeremy Norton - Captain/EMT at firestation #17 who responded to scene/2nd scene
17) David Pleoger - MPD Sgt. who took call from dispatcher complaint, went to scene, went hospital.

Day 5 - Friday 4/2/2021
18) Sgt Jon Edwards - MPD who took over shift from Pleoger
19) Richard Zimmerman - MPD Investigator for critical incidents;prior to turning over to BCA upon death of GF

Day 6
20) Dr Bradford Langerfeld - Resident at hospital that pronounced GF
21) Chief Arrandondo - Head of MPD
22) Katie Blackwelll - was MPD Commander of Training Division at time of GF death

Day 7
23) Ker Yang - Sgt MPD Crisis Intervention Training Coordinator
24) Johny Mercil - Lt. MPD Oversees MPD Use of Force education who trained Chauvin
25) Nicole MacKenzie - MPD Medical Support Coordinator
26) Jody Stiger - Los Angeles Use of force expert

Day 8
26) Jody Stiger Cont'd Use of force expert from LAPD
27) Special Agent James Reyerson with Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension - BCA lead investigator
28) McKensie Anderson - BCA Forensic Scientist - DNA expert, scene lead
29) Breahna Giles - Forensic Scientist - pills
30) Susan Neith - Forensic Chemist - pills

Day 9
31) Dr. Martin Tobin - Physician in pulmonary and Critical Care
32) Daniel Isenschmid - NMS Laboratories
33) Dr. Bill Smock - Emergency Medicine Physician in forensic medicine / "Police Surgeon"

Day 10 Friday 4/9/2021
34) Dr. Lindsey Thomas - Forensic Pathologist - Retired from Hennepin County, was Dr. Andrew Baker's mentor
35) Dr. Andrew Baker - Hennepin County ME who did GF autopsy
 
Derek Chauvin's defense is using these 3 arguments to try to get an acquittal in George Floyd's death - CNN

The 'other causes' theory
The defense has emphasized Floyd's drug use, his initial resistance to officers and his preexisting heart problems.

The 'force is unattractive' theory
This theory argues that police use of force can look horrifying on bystander video, but that it's a necessary part of the job for police officers.

The 'hostile crowd' theory
Bystanders who frantically called for Chauvin to get off Floyd were potential threats and distracted him from caring for Floyd. Chauvin may not have done exactly as trained, this theory goes, but the crowd's hostility offers a non-criminal explanation why.
 
DAY 11 TRIAL
4/12/2021​

36) Dr. Jonathan Rich - Cardiologist
37) Ph*lonese Floyd - George's little brother
38) Seth Stoughton - Criminal and Police Law Professor at Univ. of SC



Derek Chauvin's defense is using these 3 arguments to try to get an acquittal in George Floyd's death


The 'other causes' theory
The defense's primary argument is that Floyd's death was not due to Chauvin's actions but happened for other medical reasons. The defense has emphasized Floyd's drug use, his initial resistance to officers and his preexisting heart problems.

The 'force is unattractive' theory
This theory argues that police use of force can look horrifying on bystander video, but that it's a necessary part of the job for police officers.
"You will learn that Derek Chauvin did exactly what he had been trained to do over the course of his 19-year career," Nelson said in opening statements. "The use of force is not attractive, but it is a necessary component of policing."

The 'hostile crowd' theory
Bystanders who frantically called for Chauvin to get off Floyd were potential threats and distracted him from caring for Floyd. Chauvin may not have done exactly as trained, this theory goes, but the crowd's hostility offers a non-criminal explanation why.
"They are screaming at them, causing the officers to divert their attention from the care of Mr. Floyd to the threat that was growing in front of them," Nelson said in opening statements.

Derek Chauvin's defense is using these 3 arguments to try to get an acquittal in George Floyd's death - CNN

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If his trial feels momentous, it’s because it is.

... the video of Floyd’s death was different. Millions of people across the United States and the world watched intimate cellphone footage, clear and close, of a death that was painfully slow. To watch that clip is to watch a person’s life slipping from their body a little at a time.

We aren't often confronted with death like that — seeing Floyd die as he did would hurt any mortal person. To relive it through this trial is to have that still-fresh wound scraped raw.

“Every time he dropped one tear, I dropped two to three,” George Floyd’s brother, Philonise Floyd, told the Star Tribune after listening to the testimony of 61-year-old Charles McMillian, who’d tried to help Floyd during his arrest. “It was just terrible just watching him.”

Darnella Frazier, 18, recorded the now-famous video of Floyd’s final moments. She too spoke of guilt, saying amid tears ... Those tears, and the others shed by witnesses, were shared not just by Philonise Floyd, but by so many watching — as was the sense of helplessness.

Those who have watched Floyd die, in person or on video, are unified in their despair.

Why the Chauvin trial feels so momentous

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Dr Andrew Baker has been the Chief Medical Examiner for Hennepin County since 2004. That gives him 17 years of experience in this position.
It is not just what you learn in school ... life's education is so much greater.
As well, we don't know what other education he has had along the way. Workshops, courses, papers, seminars, other related learning and keeping up-to-date.

Drugs and Heart Disease Were ‘Not Direct Causes’ of Floyd’s Death, Medical Examiner Says

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The first witness called Monday was Dr. Jonathan Rich, a medical expert in cardiology from Northwestern Memorial Hospital in the Chicago area, who the prosecution hopes to counter defense contentions that Floyd died from health problems and illicit drug use.

"I believe that Mr. George Floyd's death was absolutely preventable," Rich testified Monday.

Rich testified that he believes Floyd's cause of death was cardiopulmonary arrest caused by low oxygen levels. Those oxygen levels, he said as have others before him, "were induced by the prone restraint and positional asphyxia that he was subjected to."

Further, the doctor said, "I can state with a high degree of medical certainty that George Floyd did not die from a cardiac event and he did not die from an overdose."

Rich said he has watched bystander and other video from the scene and saw no evidence in Floyd's behavior or appearance that he was having difficulty with his heart until be pinned on the pavement by Chauvin and two other officers.

He had been stricken in connection from ongoing heart condition, he would immediately fall unconscious, Rich said.

In Floyd's case, the doctor said, low oxygen sent him into cardiopulmonary arrest "much more gradually and slowly. ... His speech [was] starting to become less forceful ... until his speech became absent and his muscle movements were absent."

The doctor added that his review of autopsy records also led him to conclude that Floyd did not suffer a heart attack on May 25 or at any other time in his life.

Rich went to say that despite seeing coronary artery blockage in Floyd's heart, the doctor said he saw nothing in the medical records to suggest that played a role in the death.

Prosecutor Jerry Blackwell turned his questioning to Floyd's illicit drug use, and Rich echoed what many earlier witnesses told the jury: "I see no evidence to suggest that a fentanyl overdose caused Mr. Floyd's death," said Rich who treats patients who have used fentanyl.

The doctor dismissed just as firmly any impact methamphetamine had on Floyd's fate, saying the drug "no substantive role" given that where was "a very relative low level of methamphetamine in his system."

Prevention measures that would have helped included "not subjecting him to that prone restraint" in the first place, relieving Floyd from that position and administering CPR once another officer said no pulse was detected.

Blackwell wrapped up by asking Rich whether Floyd have survived his encounter with police if not for his 9 minutes and 29 seconds on restraint on the pavement. "Yes, I believe he would have lived."

Defense attorney Eric Nelson asked on cross examination whether Floyd would have survived if he had followed police orders and gotten into the squad car upon arrest.

Rich replied "yes, I would agree with you" that any number of scenarios before being pinned to the pavement, including complying with the officers, would have spared Floyd's life.

The doctor did agree that Floyd had a significant presence of heart disease but tried to fend off Nelson's questions about the dangers of a 90% narrowing of a coronary artery being especially life-threatening, saying the heart finds way to create new paths for blood to circulate under those conditions.

Also, while Rich said during prosecution questioning that he reviewed all of the 46-year-old Floyd's medical records, the doctor acknowledged to the defense attorney that those records went back only three years.

Medical expert in Derek Chauvin trial testimony: George Floyd’s death ‘absolutely preventable’

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On cross-examination, Chauvin attorney Eric Nelson questioned Stoughton’s opinion that putting Floyd on his stomach was itself unreasonable and excessive.

“Reasonable minds can disagree, agreed?” Nelson asked.

“On this particular point, no,” the witness said.

Derek Chauvin did not take actions of ‘reasonable officer,’ expert says
 
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Most recent media -​

USA Today - Derek Chauvin trial: George Floyd's brother Philonise testifies

AP News - Expert: Chauvin did not take actions of 'reasonable officer'

ABC Chicago - Derek Chauvin trial live coverage: George Floyd's brother sheds tears on the stand

Wall Street Journal - Derek Chauvin Prosecutors Near End of Case in George Floyd’s Death

Huffington Post - Doctor Says George Floyd Had 'Exceptionally Strong Heart,' Undercutting Defense | HuffPost

NBC News - Apr. 12 highlights for the murder trial of Derek Chauvin Day 11


NBC News - George Floyd's brother Philonise testifies in Derek Chauvin's trial

Washington Post - https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...eefa4a-998e-11eb-b28d-bfa7bb5cb2a5_story.html

MSNBC - How many medical experts does it take to tell us how George Floyd died?

CNN - George Floyd's brother says he was a big mama's boy at Derek Chauvin's trial as prosecution nears its end - CNN

NPR - Chauvin Trial: Expert Says Use Of Force In George Floyd Arrest Was Not Reasonable

New York Times - ‘He showed us how to treat our mom,’ George Floyd’s brother breaks down during his testimony.
 
(video at link)

https://twitter.com/cathyrusson/status/1382072679306383361

#DerekChauvinTrial - Cross: what part of this is non-compliant?

Brodd: A compliant person would have both their hands in the small of their back.."resting comfortably"

State: "Did you say resting comfortably?"

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ICYMI: A short clip from Exhibit 43 (I believe this is Keung's BWC footage) is shown to Defense 'expert witness', Barry Brodd. Shows GF lying prone, handcuffed, and restrained by 3 officers.

Schleicher: What is Mr. Floyd doing in that clip?
Brodd: He's becoming more compliant.
S: Well, is there any non-compliance you were able to see in that clip?
B: In this clip, no.
S: And, so, he's not exhibiting any non-compliance, and, based on your testimony, and your review and the plain video record in front of you, you see that the Defendant has NOT changed his position. Correct?
B: Correct.
S: He's still applying the same level of force that he did at the beginning of the restraint period. True?
B: That, I can't say.
S: He's still kneeling on Mr. Floyd. Correct?
B: Yes.
S: And, you're not contending that this was some sort of an 'accidental' position, right? He didn't fall down onto Mr. Floyd... He was purposefully kneeling on him.
B: Yes.
S: So, based on your view of the Defendant being on top of Mr. Floyd, up to this point ~ and beyond this point, the Defendant did not alter the level of force that he was using on Mr. Floyd, did he?
B: No
S: Even though Mr. Floyd, by this point, had become, as you put it, compliant. Fair?
B: More compliant, yes.
S: Well, what part of this is non-compliant?
B: So, I see his arm in a bent position in the picture that's posted.
S: ... Right....
B: And, you know, a compliant person would have both their hands in the small of their back, and just be resting comfortably... versus, like he's still moving around.
S: Did you say 'resting comfortably'?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!!?!?
B: Or laying comfortably...
S: 'Resting comfortably'.... on the pavement?!?
B: Yes.
S: And at this point in time, when he's attempting to breathe, by shoving his shoulder into the pavement...
B: I was describing what signs of a perfectly compliant person would be.
S: So, attempting to breathe, while restrained, is being slightly non-compliant?!?
B: ....... no...
S: No.
 
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DAY 12 TRIAL
4/13/2021​

Defense Begins
39/1) Scott Creighton Retired MPD after 28 years - testified about Floyd's drug-related arrest in 2019 in Minneapolis
40/2) Michelle Moseng - paramedic for Hennepin Co. - testified about Floyd's drug-related arrest in 2019 in Minneapolis
41/3) Shawanda Hill - Passenger in GF car
42/4) Peter Chang - Park Police Officer on scene
43/5) Nicole MacKenzie - Recalled witness, MPD Medical Support Coordinator
44/6) Barry Brodd - Use of force expert



MOST RECENT MEDIA​

AP News - Expert says cop was justified in pinning down George Floyd

Reuters - Use-of-force expert testifies that Chauvin justified in deadly arrest of Floyd

NPR - Park Police Officer Who Provided Backup Testifies In Derek Chauvin Trial

New York Times - In Early Testimony for Defense, Witness Says Chauvin’s Force Was ‘Justified’

New York Times - New body camera footage shows George Floyd handcuffed on the street.

New York Times - Key Moments on Day 12 of the Derek Chauvin Trial

NBC News - Apr. 13 highlights for the murder trial of Derek Chauvin Day 12

Huffington Post - Prosecutor Knocks Defense Expert's Claim That Deadly Force Not Used In George Floyd Arrest | HuffPost

CNN - April 13, 2021 Derek Chauvin trial day 12 news

CNN - George Floyd: Use-of-force expert for Derek Chauvin's defense says his actions were justified - CNN

Yahoo News - 3 takeaways from the first day of Derek Chauvin’s defense in the killing of George Floyd
 
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DAY 13 TRIAL
4/14/2021
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Defense Witnesses

45/7 Dr. David Fowler - Retired ME, Forensic Pathologist



Latest Media

USA Today - Derek Chauvin trial live: Defense calls witnesses in George Floyd case

Washington Post - https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/04/14/derek-chauvin-trial/

CNN - George Floyd: Former medical examiner Dr. David Fowler says Floyd died due to his heart disease -- not Derek Chauvin - CNN

MSNBC - Prosecution dismantles defense witness theories about cause of George Floyd’s death

FOX News - George Floyd's girlfriend was Daunte Wright's teacher, relative says

AP News - EXPLAINER: Why won’t George Floyd’s friend testify?

FOX News - Judge denies Derek Chauvin defense team’s acquittal request in George Floyd’s death

Chicago Tribune - Column: George Floyd and the double standard on who gets sympathy for an opioid addiction

Washington Post - https://www.washingtonpost.com/nati.../15/dc-guard-helicopter-george-floyd-protest/

Yahoo News - Derek Chauvin defense witness suggests carbon monoxide may have helped kill George Floyd
 
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FINAL WITNESS LIST
TESTIMONIES ENDED 4/15/2021​


Day 1
Opening Statements
1) 911 MPD Dispatcher Jena Scurry (not to be confused with 911 call taker or fire dispatcher)
2) Speedway gas station cashier All*sha Oy*er
3) MMA guy D*nald W*lliams (prosecution only today)

Day 2
3) witness - From Yesterday, defense follow up etc with MMA guy D*nald W*lliams - he called 911
4) witness - Darn**la - was minor at the time and now 18 - she did the "viral video" that the world has seen and had little cousin with her in green shirt
5) witness - Little cousin in green (not posting any info here at WS... due to minor)
6) witness - Aly*** who was wearing white shirt and blue jeans in group shot.. knows witness #4 from school and knows another person there she drove there with ( young female K**lyn at scene with large bag on shoulder who is #7 witness) She drove up after FG was on ground -took 3 videos.
7) witness - K**lyn (?sp) Arrived with #6 witness. Minor, 17 year old. Friend of #6 Aly***. She circled her photo of standing on the curb.. had large beige bag on shoulder next to MMA guy.
8) witness - 27 yo Lady firefighter/EMT GH who was in all black with white headband that day, with CPR training (wearing uniform in court) from Minneapolis who was on a walk who took video and did 911 call. She was 7th person to arrive on the curb with others watching . The judge chewed her out at the end of today for "arguing with the court" and arguing with attorneys.

Day 3
8) Genev*eve Hans*n cont'd - Firefighter/EMT (defense questions)
9) Christopher Mart*n 19 y/o who worked in CUP FOOD store and accepted the $20 bill.
10) Christopher B*lrey 45 y/o who pulled up behind GF's car, filmed a little then left the scene
11) Charles Mcmi*lian 61 y/o who was first on scene when at CUP food wearing black shirt with white square emblem - "You can't win"
12) Lt. James Rugel with IT responsibility for body and street cams.

Day 4
13) Courtn*y R*ss GF girlfriend since 2017
14) Seth Zach*ry Bravinder - Ambulance/EMS driver
15) Eerek Smith - Ambulance/EMS who did pulse and compressions
16) Jeremy Norton - Captain/EMT at firestation #17 who responded to scene/2nd scene
17) David Pleoger - MPD Sgt. who took call from dispatcher complaint, went to scene, went hospital.

Day 5 - Friday 4/2/2021
18) Sgt Jon Edwards - MPD who took over shift from Pleoger
19) Richard Zimmerman - MPD Investigator for critical incidents;prior to turning over to BCA upon death of GF

Day 6
20) Dr Bradford Langerfeld - Resident at hospital that pronounced GF
21) Chief Arrandondo - Head of MPD
22) Katie Blackwelll - was MPD Commander of Training Division at time of GF death

Day 7
23) Ker Yang - Sgt MPD Crisis Intervention Training Coordinator
24) Johny Mercil - Lt. MPD Oversees MPD Use of Force education who trained Chauvin
25) Nicole MacKenzie - MPD Medical Support Coordinator
26) Jody Stiger - Los Angeles Use of force expert

Day 8
26) Jody Stiger Cont'd Use of force expert from LAPD
27) Special Agent James Reyerson with Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension - BCA lead investigator
28) McKensie Anderson - BCA Forensic Scientist - DNA expert, scene lead
29) Breahna Giles - Forensic Scientist - pills
30) Susan Neith - Forensic Chemist - pills

Day 9
31) Dr. Martin Tobin - Physician in pulmonary and Critical Care
32) Daniel Isenschmid - NMS Laboratories
33) Dr. Bill Smock - Emergency Medicine Physician in forensic medicine / "Police Surgeon"

Day 10 Friday 4/9/2021
34) Dr. Lindsey Thomas - Forensic Pathologist - Retired from Hennepin County, was Dr. Andrew Baker's mentor
35) Dr. Andrew Baker - Hennepin County ME who did GF autopsy

DAY 11 TRIAL 4/12/2021
36) Dr. Jonathan Rich - Cardiologist
37) Ph*lonese Floyd - George's little brother
38) Seth Stoughton - Criminal and Police Law Professor at Univ. of SC

DAY 12 TRIAL 4/13/2021
Defense Begins
39/1) Scott Creighton Retired MPD after 28 years - testified about Floyd's drug-related arrest in 2019 in Minneapolis
40/2) Michelle Moseng - paramedic for Hennepin Co. - testified about Floyd's drug-related arrest in 2019 in Minneapolis
41/3) Shawanda Hill - Passenger in GF car
42/4) Peter Chang - Park Police Officer on scene
43/5) Nicole MacKenzie - Recalled witness, MPD Medical Support Coordinator
44/6) Barry Brodd - Use of force expert

Defense Witnesses
Day 13 4/14/2021
45/7 Dr. David Fowler - Retired ME, Forensic Pathologist

Day 14 4/15/2021
Prosecution rebuttal
46) repeat - Dr. Tobin
 
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