Norway Norway - Arjen Kamphuis, 47, Dutch citizen, Bodø, 20 Aug 2018 - #2

[Cave]

Do you mean he would have been at these places named at the map? Wonder what he has done in Hopen.. Not a place I would think people goes to without porpouses, and quite a long walk from Tverlandet trainstation or busstasjon.

Helma posted a screenshot of the map on Twitter (see this post).
I have no additional knowledge of the origin of the data that she based her map on, but I assume that internal family & friends investigation was the basis of the markers in these cities.

Note that Helma also mentioned all relevant train stations on the map.

Upon close inspecvtion I see that I misinterpreted the Hopen city itself as being a marker.
Actually the marker on the map is to the left of the trainstation of Loding, so that would be a safer assumption.

Here is the adjusted map:



I recall that police had a statement were they claimed that Arjen stayed within a radius of 60/70/80 km (not sure which was the actual number they mentiod).
That would match with the locations on the map of Helma.

 

[Lorrie]

Løding/Tverlandet makes a bit more sense. It is a shopping center there, mainly food. Maybe he have bought food or tried to set out his kayak there.

 

[Cave]

Løding/Tverlandet makes a bit more sense. It is a shopping center there, mainly food. Maybe he have bought food or tried to set out his kayak there.

You could be right. Shopping with a credit card or bank card would at least leave some kind of trail.
I do not remember anyone ever mentioning looking at his bank statements to check for that kind of information, but since dutch police was involved, i assume this is all checked.

 

[Chiatos]

Short summary of the podcast:

- no DNA of AK was found on the kayak.
- the red life line that AK had,wasn’t found.
- the hard disk & phone,is lost.

Its quite interesting and worth a listen.

At the same time,it raises more questions,then answers.

Hopefully, family,friends and colleagues will be provided with answers.

Next month, it is 4 years - that Arjen Kamphuis disappeared...

Thanks for finding this podcast in which Helma is being interviewed.

Another important detail mentioned in the podcast:
- the "white vessel" was also seen sailing back in the direction where it had initially come from!


@Cave: I need some time to ponder on your postings ....

 

[Cave]

Thanks for finding this podcast in which Helma is being interviewed.

Another important detail mentioned in the podcast:
- the "white vessel" was also seen sailing back in the direction where it had initially come from!

If this is mention in the podcast, then the entire 'white vessel' issue might simply be another (normal) vessel.

@Cave: I need some time to ponder on your postings ....

Take your time.
My major concern is that the entire 'kayak-incident' scenario to me has become highly unlikely after seeing the photo of the condition of the kayak at the moment it was found.
Looking forward to hear your thoughts!

 

[Chiatos]

If this is mention in the podcast, then the entire 'white vessel' issue might simply be another (normal) vessel.


Take your time.
My major concern is that the entire 'kayak-incident' scenario to me has become highly unlikely after seeing the photo of the condition of the kayak at the moment it was found.
Looking forward to hear your thoughts!

I have considered the kayak accident scenario as unlikely from the start. Unless there hád been a kayak accident and then someone else messed up the evidence afterwards.

Arjen's life jacket has not been found. It should have, shouldn't it?
How could Arjen's belongings have been found floating in the water after so many days? Also stuff that would normally sink after some time. But his floating life jacket has never been found?

Helma mentioned that the trainticket's ink was perfectly readable after having soaked in salty water for so many days. A simple test would prove that to be kind of impossible. Unsolved ink indicates a recent placement in the water.

And then the involvement of two unknown truck drivers (Belo-Russian, Russian, or Lithuanian or what ever) who appear out of the blue, bringing back Arjen's stuff after a full year.
No one seems to know who they were. Not even Norwegian police. What about Dutch police? Have they even taken the trouble to find out who these two were?

The find of the kayak folded open is actually quite shocking. Could it have unfolded by itself?
I.e. with the aid of waves and rocks? But then it should have been spotted before, floating around by itself in the fjord?

Or has somebody unfolded the kayak intentionally? Perhaps to look for something precious and to inspect every folding and crevice in the vessel? Or to just stage an accident and dump everything in the fjord?

 

[Chiatos]

Recently, new facts came to light - showing that there are reasons to doubt if Arjen really went kayaking on the evening of the 20th of August. It also became clear that Arjen felt hunted in the weeks before he went missing, due to his affiliations with WikiLeaks and two former NSA-whistleblowers.

Arjen and his family, friends and fans deserve that we leave no stone unturned. Whether he had an accident, or something else happened to him - Arjen deserves it to be found.

The coming weeks, we will publish some updates on why we want to organize this new search, and which steps we take to find Arjen

Search for Arjen Kamphuis in Norway #FindArjen

Help us to #FindArjen. Arjen Kamphuis went missing in Bodø, Norway. The police assumes that he had a kayak-accident. Recently, new facts came to light. There is one thing we can do to find out more: search the fjord with underwater drones.

fundrazr.com

 

[ZaZara]

From the background info on the FR page:

Forensic Pathologist Frank van de Goot offered to conduct a final search in and around the fjord in Norway.
Van de Goot is well-known when it comes to international searches for missing persons.

We first make a 5-day exploratory trip to check the coastline of the fjord. Frank van de Goot will search the route from Bodo to Rognan for clues. With a specifically designed GPS-floating-system, we figure out the possible locations where belongings and a body might end up.

From @TeamArjen on Twitter:

Frank van de Goot & team have arrived in Norway. They start by exploring the coast of 't fjord where Arjen would have gone kayaking.

Conditions on site: wind can pick up (unexpectedly) quickly, and then smooth water surface quickly turns into wavy water surface. #Rognan #FindArjen

How does the current flow in the fjord? Where does stuff that ends up in the water end up? The first GPS is now in the water.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1570370325103398914

It is strange to be back on this thread after all these years, but in looking back, I never understood why AK would take all this luggage in the kayak when he easily might have made other travel arrangements, like for instance booking a room in Rognan, or travelling with less luggage if he had secret plans.

 

[ZaZara]

TeamArjen on Twitter:

Today included exploring the area around the wild camping site, looking for the place where truckers allegedly found Arjen's phone and other belongings.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1570849871355334656

From Het Parool, June 29, 2022

A search with underwater drones should reveal whether Kamphuis' body lies at the bottom of the Skjerstadfjord.

Private investigator Frank van der Goot, a well-known forensic pathologist who was involved in the investigation into the disappearance and death of Kris and Lisanne in Panama and other cases, has drawn up a plan for a final search. Kamphuis' friends have launched a fundraising drive to finance it.

"A body would bring a sense of resignation," says Jos Weyers, a close friend of Kamphuis from the hacker world. "Of course, I would much rather he still turned up somewhere, but that scenario is very unlikely after such a long time without a single digital footprint."

The Skjerstadfjord, where Kamphuis was last seen, is immense: over 80 kilometres long, 4 kilometres wide and up to 400 metres deep. Van der Goot's plans include using drones to scour the bottom. He also plans to search along the shores of the fjord in person. "The fact that his belongings were found in the water does not necessarily mean that he himself ended up in the water. For all we know he could be lying in the grass somewhere along the shore. But as far as we know, there has never been a search conducted along there."


BBM

 

[ZaZara]

From TeamArjen on Twitter:

The investigation team is back in the Netherlands. They will now first make a report in which they list what has and has not been investigated, and what possible next steps might be.

BBM


I am a bit surprised ..... they did plan this five day preliminary trip, but what happened to the GPS-floating-system? Did that yield results within 5 days?

 

[Chiatos]

Has any of you guys been able to watch the Videoland Docu Drama?
If so, what do you make of it?

 

[dotr]

Jun 10, 2022

 

[worldwatcher]

Dutchman Arjen Kamphuis, who went missing in Norway, is no longer alive and his body will probably never be found. The well-known forensic pathologist Frank van der Goot comes to this conclusion after research.

crowdfunding
Friends of the Amsterdammer did not believe the conclusions of the police and, after a successful crowdfunding, started their own investigation, led by private detective Frank van der Goot. They also contributed to the Videoland series They know everything about you, in the hope that the missing persons case would receive more attention. In the four-part series, a mix of documentary and fiction, all facts, theories and open questions surrounding the disappearance were discussed.

The aim of the private investigation, which took place in Norway last summer, was to rule out the scenario of suicide, fatal accident or crime. Investigators searched the places where Kamphuis was last seen, checked his telephone details and spoke to the local population and authorities.

Great sadness
Based on the above findings, Van der Goot, a well-known forensic pathologist who was involved in the investigation of Kris and Lisanne who died in Panama, concludes that Kamphuis most likely entered the water and died as a result of hypothermia and/or drowning. “If this is indeed the scenario, it is likely that his body and some of his belongings floated into the sea and were lost forever. The bottom of the fjord can be described as very mountainous, which makes searching with an underwater drone or recovering a body a hopeless task," the friends write.

Vrienden verliezen laatste sprankje hoop: ‘Verdwenen Arjen Kamphuis waarschijnlijk verdronken in Noorwegen’

 

[Chiatos]

Big deal, what else would F. v.d. Goot be able to say?

 

[worldwatcher]

"In 2018, cyber specialist and hacktivist Arjen Kamphuis disappeared. Journalist Annemieke van Dongen traveled to Norway to investigate the mysterious disappearance. The official investigation into the case stalled, but Annemieke does not believe that the disappearance was an accident… She looks back on the case with Robbyn Jansen."

#5 Verdwijning van Arjen Kamphuis: op onderzoek in Noorwegen

 

[ZaZara]

"In 2018, cyber specialist and hacktivist Arjen Kamphuis disappeared. Journalist Annemieke van Dongen traveled to Norway to investigate the mysterious disappearance. The official investigation into the case stalled, but Annemieke does not believe that the disappearance was an accident… She looks back on the case with Robbyn Jansen."

#5 Verdwijning van Arjen Kamphuis: op onderzoek in Noorwegen

oeoeoe... the lady is quite an astute, investigative reporter! *not*

 

[Bold]

oeoeoe... the lady is quite an astute, investigative reporter! *not*

In your opinion,that is!!

I find it kinda disturbing,that you slamm a
foreign editor,who went to Norway and the place,where Arjen vanished.

FYI, in the short podcast /recap:

She talks about how his friends hacked AKs mailbox and were deeply disturbed, about how likely he was involved in perhaps really dangerous matters.

Also the fjord ,80 km long and 4 km wide and how easily you could disappear there.
She also went to the place,where AK stayed for 10 days,asking around,showing his picture,if someone saw him.
Was surprised,that no one did,
because in her opinion,he is quite a standout with ginger long hair and usb sticks around his neck.
And according,his booking,he stayed for 10 days, normally tourist would stay for 2.
Also not a tourist hotspot place ,to be.

Also more questions,did the police knew,AK might have been involved/aware of dangerous situations?
Maybe, the investigation was stalled from the higher top?

After she put her report in about AKs disapearence ,walked around a while,in the area ,where he vanished,feeling uncomfortable.
"Is my phone bugged. What have I actually done myself to secure my tracks?"

Back in the hotel,she saw someone leaving her hotel room and it didn't seemed like housekeeping staff.
It was around a time,where you wouldn't expect someone/guesr in the hotel room.
Luckily,she didn't left her cellphone or laptop in her room,but had it with her.
During,the rest of her stay,she always took it with her,just like Arjen did.

After hearing that the investigation closed and learning that an accident was the most probable scenario.She was very disappointed and just like Arjens friends and his family,also is not convinced that it was an kayak accident -- just too many crazy coincidences....

 

[Bold]

I have considered the kayak accident scenario as unlikely from the start. Unless there hád been a kayak accident and then someone else messed up the evidence afterwards.

Arjen's life jacket has not been found. It should have, shouldn't it?
How could Arjen's belongings have been found floating in the water after so many days? Also stuff that would normally sink after some time. But his floating life jacket has never been found?

Helma mentioned that the trainticket's ink was perfectly readable after having soaked in salty water for so many days. A simple test would prove that to be kind of impossible. Unsolved ink indicates a recent placement in the water.

And then the involvement of two unknown truck drivers (Belo-Russian, Russian, or Lithuanian or what ever) who appear out of the blue, bringing back Arjen's stuff after a full year.
No one seems to know who they were. Not even Norwegian police. What about Dutch police? Have they even taken the trouble to find out who these two were?

The find of the kayak folded open is actually quite shocking. Could it have unfolded by itself?
I.e. with the aid of waves and rocks? But then it should have been spotted before, floating around by itself in the fjord?

Or has somebody unfolded the kayak intentionally? Perhaps to look for something precious and to inspect every folding and crevice in the vessel? Or to just stage an accident and dump everything in the fjord?

Too many , crazy coincidences....
And it doesn't add up!

That's what I thinking

 

[Chiatos]

"In 2018, cyber specialist and hacktivist Arjen Kamphuis disappeared. Journalist Annemieke van Dongen traveled to Norway to investigate the mysterious disappearance. The official investigation into the case stalled, but Annemieke does not believe that the disappearance was an accident… She looks back on the case with Robbyn Jansen."

#5 Verdwijning van Arjen Kamphuis: op onderzoek in Noorwegen

Thanks for posting this recent item.
Annemieke has done a good job....

 

[Chiatos]

Too many , crazy coincidences....
And it doesn't add up!

That's what I thinking

Arjen may have drowned in the fjord, but Frank has never been able to tell what made Arjen fall into the water to start with