NV NV - Las Vegas, WhtMale 45-60, UP9009, hanged from billboard, poss from Europe, Jan'97

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Sleuthster said:
What is that brown thing in the coroner's picture? It looks like a pen but can someone else tell for sure? It doesnt appear to be your typlical pen if so. Also, he has 2 other pens and 2 combs?

To me, he looks Jewish or Italian/Sicilian olive skinned. Does not look brown skinned to me.

I say he was not homeless, or a a blue collar worker. May have worked in an office, administration in a casino, or was on vacation. I dont know that someone would travel to LV specifically to hang himself from a sign so he was from there or on vacation and lost the house as they say IMO. I would guess the first (being from LV) with all the pens.
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From the website, I think the brown thing is described as --
Knife with a wooden handle and wooden sleeve
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I thought that he could definitely be Jewish (if he was circumcised) or Italian/Sicilian. I thought that he could also be from southern France or maybe Spain or Portugal. He doesn't really look Greek to me, but I guess maybe he could be as well.
 
Ambercat said:
From the website, I think the brown thing is described as --


I thought that he could definitely be Jewish (if he was circumcised) or Italian/Sicilian. I thought that he could also be from southern France or maybe Spain or Portugal. He doesn't really look Greek to me, but I guess maybe he could be as well.
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hmmmm. wonder what he was doing with a knife, 2 pens, and 2 combs? Strange combination. The watch looks digital. Googling I found a watch on ebay for sale that looks like it but hard to tell. This one has a tiny calculator on it and is from the 70's
http://www.ebay.com/itm/VINTAGE-SEI...007399951?pt=Wristwatches&hash=item3f194cc00f

I don't believe he's greek either.
 
Kenneth Klopfenstein went missing from Bellevue, WA on April 19, 1986, which would be consistent with not being in contact with his family for 20 years. His height is 70 inches, same as the UID's height in NamUs. I think he really resembles the UID and I was getting to distracted looking for an missing man who wore glasses and was of Mediterranean origin. I'm not sure if Mr. Klopfenstein had his appendix out.
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https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/14267/110
 
Wayne Albert Hansen is also a possibility. I like his eyebrows, nose, mouth and chin for this UID. Timing is good, height is good, weight is a bit off, and his age is off, but I figured I'd get some other opinions.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1778dmab.html
 

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Snufamonbobball said:
Wayne Albert Hansen is also a possibility. I like his eyebrows, nose, mouth and chin for this UID. Timing is good, height is good, weight is a bit off, and his age is off, but I figured I'd get some other opinions.

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1778dmab.html
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Namus has the UID's eyes as "Hazel with a brownish cast" and DoeNetwork has Wayne's eyes as Blue/Brown.
http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/1778dmab.html

I think it's worth a little more research. Maybe?
 
After doing more side by side comparisons, and bouncing Mr. Hansen as a PM off CarlK, I decided to go ahead and submit him as a PM.
He has several strong indicators of a PM- his nose, his jaw line and ear. The pics of Mr. Hansen have great ear shots, and his is quite distinctive. It has a large "hood" along his jaw line (especially near the top) and two distinctive bumps on his inner ear. All of the features are visible on the decedent.
His nose and the proportions of his face also appear to be an almost exact match.
Mr. Hansen hadn't been previously submitted as a PM to the Clark county coroner, nor had LE in Canada compared the two. The coroner's MP/Doe investigator wasn't in, but the woman I talked with rolled on over to Mr. Hansen's Doenetwork file, and agreed he should be looked at as a PM.
Hopefully, I'll hear back soon whether he's a rule out. I'll post it when I find out. Until then, fingers crossed for another match!
 
I think blue and brown are mutually exclusive eye colors. having said that, it is possible his eye color showed up only as a B on say a driver's license and they do not know which one it is. you would think his mother would know what color his eyes were, assuming she is still around.
 
webrocket said:
I think blue and brown are mutually exclusive eye colors. having said that, it is possible his eye color showed up only as a B on say a driver's license and they do not know which one it is. you would think his mother would know what color his eyes were, assuming she is still around.
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The blue/brown may mean he's got eyes like my youngest son's -- blue with brown flecks. From a slight distance they they look dark. Close up they look blue. He calls them hazel.
 
carbuff said:
It's hard to say how much of that is an actual discrepancy and how much is shadows in the photos, camera angles, or even postmortem.
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You have a point, sometimes two photos of the same person taken at different times with different lighting/etc. will look like two completely different people.

What part of Canada did Wayne Hansen grow up in? If it was Quebec, would that account for the coroner noting "His use of the English language is not consistent with the conventional British education?"
 
Ambercat said:
You have a point, sometimes two photos of the same person taken at different times with different lighting/etc. will look like two completely different people.

What part of Canada did Wayne Hansen grow up in? If it was Quebec, would that account for the coroner noting "His use of the English language is not consistent with the conventional British education?"
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I wish there was more info about Mr. Hansen out there, later on today I'll post some overlay pictures, this seems to be about as close of a match looks wise that you're going to find. I'm going wayyyy out on a limb here but, I'll be more shocked if this isn't him than if it is-the overlays are so identical.
I hope there's some way to actually identify Mr. Hansen and it isn't one of those Ernest Lyons things. I would think they'd have some dental records, but being he's from Canada, I wonder if identification would take any longer.
 
Overlays-I don't have any way to animate the overlay, so you have to click through them one at a time. Keep in mind they're not at the exact same angles, although they are very close-particularly their mouths. The eyebrows are relaxed in the morgue photo and his glasses push the top of his ears outward in his younger photo. The overlayed image is the one on the far left.

WARNING MORGUE PHOTO AT LINKS

http://s6.postimage.org/nvdytc9nl/Foto_Flexer_Photo6.jpg
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Hi all.

The way the UID was dressed suggests to me that indeed he was European. Many Europeans tend to dress a bit more formally.

Considering he was in Las Vegas, a gaming town, I wonder if INTERPOL was alerted, and whether they checked any security files or
self-exclusion lists in European casinos in places like Monte Carlo.

Also, considering he was wearing a suit and trenchcoat, he had a lot of pockets, so it isn't surprising a few items
like combs, etc., were found on his person.
 
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