OK - RSO child molestation parent granted sole custody of six-year-old daughter

[TrackerSam]

That's a good question - I wondered that too. She and her cousin claim it was just that she couldn't remember all of the names of her daughter's doctors and also that the judge thought they made up the tale about the half-brother molesting the girl. Must be more to it though, I'd think. Or maybe the judge was the dishonest sort.

I can't remember my kid's birthdays. There has to be a better reason than what's been stated so far.

 

[Linda7NJ]

My impression from reading the article is that judge believed that the story of molestation by a half-brother was made up. And thus granted custody to the father.

I would certainly hope a psychologist specializing in sexual abuse and a therapist that spent more than an hour with the 6 year old made that determination.

I have a friend whose soon to be ex husband encouraged and used his own mentally disabled son to molest his sisters, he also molested his daughters then scapegoated him when the oldest girl, disclosed. The boy remains in an RTC... Dad is skipping free and screaming parental alienation ...and the judge is listening!!!! Dispite the findings of the CAC interviews, numerous experts, DFS.... The judge basically called mom a liar and sent the other children off to dads house for the summer.
New lawyer, new judge and new hearing on the 15th.

 

[neenna66]

Sounds like maybe the court was threatened with a false arrest lawsuit, and traded the girl to get out of it.

He was absent from the girl's life for 6 years. Which means that they are now unfamiliar with each other. Regardless of whether the abuse happened or not, likely the girl missed her father. But the answer is not to throw the girl back to him full time. Give him liberal visitation rights until she is like 16. But make Mom the custodial parent. That way if they are wrong, if he really was guilty, at least the girl has someone she can tell.

I hope Mom files an appeal on this.

I just wanted to say I love your signature line and agree 100%. I wish more felt this way.

 

[neenna66]

The conviction aside for a moment, it doesn't explain why mom was granted custody. Is she a bad mom, on drugs, prostitution etc? What did she do to lose custody?

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I have only moderately followed this case, was planning on jumping in more next week when the articles settle down. It is then easier to get all the info then through research.

Also the online group I work with help mothers who have been abused by their boyfriends/husbands/exboyfriends/exhusbands and whose children have either witnessed that abuse or have been abused themselves.

 

[my2sense]

That first article is very confusing and appears to be wrong. It makes it sound like he just got out of prison where he was for six years and then got custody of daughter. But I don't believe that to be the case from reading other articles. He wasn't convicted six years ago, he was convicted in 1995.

wouldn't that make his daughter 26 (at the least?)

 

[Donjeta]

wouldn't that make his daughter 26 (at the least?)

It's a different daughter I think.

 

[Public_Hysteria]

The conviction aside for a moment, it doesn't explain why mom was granted custody. Is she a bad mom, on drugs, prostitution etc? What did she do to lose custody?

My group I believe has communicated with her or someone close to her and the claims are that she denied some visits and she was not current on her daughter's medical care because she could not name all of the doctors who were caring for the child. The child has had many specialists due to a cleft lip/palate. There are also the beliefs that there may be something shady as well with judge and dads lawyer.

SBM - I don't for a second believe that this is enough reason to give a sex offender primary custody of a 6 year old child (if I'm reading correctly... which I certainly hope I'm not). Surely there must be a bigger reason mum was not granted sole custody? Whether his original conviction is true or not, it doesn't sound like the greatest idea to just throw this small child into the home of someone accused of something like this. Give mum sole custody and allow dad some supervised visits until the whole thing can be sorted out.

Even if he is innocent, I'm sure he would understand why things would need to be this way. It's all about the welfare of his daughter.

He was absent from the girl's life for 6 years. Which means that they are now unfamiliar with each other. Regardless of whether the abuse happened or not, likely the girl missed her father. But the answer is not to throw the girl back to him full time. Give him liberal visitation rights until she is like 16. But make Mom the custodial parent. That way if they are wrong, if he really was guilty, at least the girl has someone she can tell.

I hope Mom files an appeal on this.

This is also an excellent reason why dad should not have been given custody of this girl full time. If she has not lived with him or seen him much in the last 6 years, then surely the best thing is not putting her in a home of someone who is virtually a stranger to her. Won't she miss her mum?

I honestly can't believe that what I've read is correct. We MUST be missing some information on this. If not, I agree with others, something shady is going on. How well connected is dad?

SMH. Hoping this darling little girl doesn't experience first hand the horrors her father is accused of.

:twocents:

 

[EGirl]

wouldn't that make his daughter 26 (at the least?)

The daughter in question was conceived long after he got out of prison. Imo but its in one of the earlier link. Mom knowingly had a relationship with a convicted SO.

 

[vasportsmom]

Subbing so I can find this thread later.

 

[gitana1]

The horrors of the "witch trials" in Kern County and across the country in the '80s and '90s are well-documented; many were convicted on false evidence coerced by law enforcement from alleged child victims. BUT the apparent fact that Elizondo did not seek to have his conviction overturned does speak volumes here.

And according to the article first linked, he apparently was convicted in the 90's and then AGAIN, six years ago, for raping his own then 6 year old daughter (who would now be 12):

In California, just six years ago, Nicholas Elizondo was convicted for raping his then six-year-old daughter. He took a deal and served six years in jail. During that time his ex-wife, Lisa Knight, has been raising their daughter Sarah in Norman.

Is this, or is this not correct?

My impression from reading the article is that judge believed that the story of molestation by a half-brother was made up. And thus granted custody to the father.

Something must be missing here. If this man was TWICE convicted of sexual molestation and rape of small children, something vastly significant had to have happened in order for a mom who has been raising her child alone for the last six years to lose all custody to him. Are there mistakes in these articles? What's happening?

 

[jjenny]

That article claiming he was convicted 6 years ago appears to be poorly written and false. I think it meant to say 16 years ago he was convicted, not 6. He wasn't convicted twice.

 

[jjenny]

wouldn't that make his daughter 26 (at the least?)

????
I don't follow your question.

 

[wfgodot]

That article claiming he was convicted 6 years ago appears to be poorly written and false. I think it meant to say 16 years ago he was convicted, not 6. He wasn't convicted twice.

Yes, the OP's KFOR-quoted article left much to be desired. He was actually convicted about 18 years ago, in 1995. I should have noted it but when I posted the thread I was still in a state of "wait; what?" shock.

 

[floridamomma]

:scared:

:banghead:

lease:

 

[Linda7NJ]

I don't mind sharing it here. I volunteer with AMPP, American Mothers Political Party. I hope it is allowed if not please don't be harsh with me. We share stories of abused moms and children, some of us work actively trying to enforce DV laws and get new ones passed, etc.

Thank you!

 

[CHERIE.T]

How can this happen? That man shouldn't be awarded custody of an animal much less a daughter. He will harm her.....Imoo. This is ludicrous.

 

[ArianeEmory]

He lost custody again in July, but it sounds like it was temporary. I assume he has her back again. Apparently the story was on CNN tonight.

http://kfor.com/2013/07/09/calif-sex-offender-given-custody-of-daughter-now-arrested/

 

[vasportsmom]

I don't understand how this ever happened. A few years ago I had a neighbor that was a RSO. His "victim" was his 16 year old girlfriend that he eventually married and shared a child with. He later remarried and had a daughter with his 2nd wife. He was NEVER allowed to be alone with his daughter. If his wife got held up at work, caught by traffic or w/e and the daycare bus beat her to the house he would stand out in the yard with his 2yo (rain, snow or blistering sun) and call me to take her until her mother could get home. This was a man that had been compliant for over 10 years and never so much as violated a traffic law but he was not allowed to put his baby in the vehicle and drive her out for an ice cream cone alone so how in the hell did this monster walk off with a child the same age as his victim?