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Wanting2Help said:
I havent been able to find one of her ring... there are not many pics of her on the site the built for her...
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There is also a Facebook page for Joey. Her sister is pretty active on the page. Should we just ask her about Joey's ring?
 
Claire, that would be great, only if you want to contact her. Maybe she dosen't know about the remains being found.
 
I wonder when in 2007 the Fire Department handed out those tee shirts? She (Joey) went missing in July 2007.
 
Wanting2Help said:
I wonder when in 2007 the Fire Department handed out those tee shirts? She (Joey) went missing in July 2007.
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Good point. Fire prevention week (if the t-shirts are associated) is early OCt in PA. Kids love the day the trucks go to the schools, which is how I know.
 
From site:

If you are interested in participating and assisting with our fire prevention program, please contact us as 689-2829. The 2008 Fire Prevention Program will take place October 9 & 10, 2008.

Reproduced from NFPA Fire Prevention Week Website. ©2008 NFPA.
• As a reminder to parents, each year, every child that participates in our Fire Prevention Program is awarded a special fire prevention tee shirt that represents the National Fire Prevention theme for that year. For participating in our fire prevention program, students who attend our monthly breakfast and wear their tee shirts eat for free! This discount is available all year around and cycles from October to October. All that is required from you is to show up, with your child wearing the appropriate fire prevention tee shirt for that year.
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So it was early Oct 2007.
 
little726 said:
Here is the website for Jefferson Township VFD:

http://29firerescue.com/
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Thanks! This can't be Joey then. Here is what I found from that site...

This is from the November 2007 Newsletter. It looks like they went out every month...

Once again in 2007, the members of the Jefferson Township Volunteer Fire Com-pany hosted a fire prevention program for the students at the Jefferson Elementary Center. The theme of Fire Prevention 2007 was “Practice Your Es-cape Plan.”
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http://29firerescue.com/documents/Newsletters/2007November.pdf
 
I just looked up the October 2007 weather data http://www.erh.noaa.gov/bgm/climate/avp.shtml since there were shorts found with the body. October is not usually "shorts" weather here, but it looks like that was a very warm October.

That is not to say that the body has been there since October 2007 though. If the shirts were given out in 2007 it could have been there anytime after. Just seemed odd that it was such a warm fall for us.

Normally people here stop wearing shorts in September and do not bare our legs again until May. Only runners would be out in shorts in October and November. They switch to long gear for Dec-early March and late March April pick back up wearing shorts.

This location is on top of Moosic Mountain. It is usually 5-10 degrees cooler up there than down in the city. Heavy snow and lots of wind in the winter. Very windy road up the mountain with very little developments until you get to the other side of it.

The one side has a nature preserve on it. http://www.nature.org/ourinitiative...nsylvania/placesweprotect/moosic-mountain.xml

There are a few housing developemtns on the other side.

Map of the trails on the mountain http://www.nature.org/ourinitiative...ect/moosic_bike_trails_34x34_final_lowres.pdf
 
Wanting2Help said:
Thanks! This can't be Joey then. Here is what I found from that site...

This is from the November 2007 Newsletter. It looks like they went out every month...

http://29firerescue.com/documents/Newsletters/2007November.pdf
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Right it looks like it can't be Joey, unless she somehow got the t-shirt early. I learned a lot more about Fire Prevention Week. It is a National event always in the week that includes October 9th, which is the day the Great Chicago Fire started in 1871.

Here is a reverence for the 2007 FPW:
http://www.colonie.org/fireprev/FirePrevention2007.pdf

I searched NY, NJ and PA missing person websites going back to 2007. That part of PA is pretty close to both NJ and NY. The only person that made sense was Joey.
 
I cant believe with a big clue like this tee-shirt, that they cant figure out who it is and that no one else is missing from the area.

IMO it's got to be someone from the area or someone that was visiting the area and went to the function that day and got a tee-shirt.

So there from the area or missing from somewhere else that week.
 
Edit-because I doubt they would have gone on ebay, bought the tee-shirt and then their remains turn up in the town where the shirt came from.
 
Sleuthster said:
Edit-because I doubt they would have gone on ebay, bought the tee-shirt and then their remains turn up in the town where the shirt came from.
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No, but thrift stores are BIG here. The Salvation Army has many stores in a 20 mile radius as does the good will. Also there are lots of private second hand shops.

The shirt could have been sold at one of those to someone outside the area that was here, and something happened to cause their demise.

Unfortunately, with the proximity to NYC and PHL a lot of drugs pass through this area. If you ever heard of Rick Luytjes of Air America, this was where he ran drugs through.

http://members.shaw.ca/chriscpa/rick.htm

In the early 1980’s, Rik Luytjes gained two sterling reputations. One was as an upstanding businessman and pillar of the community. The other was as the most successful cocaine smuggler in US history. Over a four year period, he flew ten tons of coke, worth over twenty billion dollars, into the country.

So there can very easily be a drug connection to this case.
 
petchie said:
No, but thrift stores are BIG here. The Salvation Army has many stores in a 20 mile radius as does the good will. Also there are lots of private second hand shops.

The shirt could have been sold at one of those to someone outside the area that was here, and something happened to cause their demise.

Unfortunately, with the proximity to NYC and PHL a lot of drugs pass through this area. If you ever heard of Rick Luytjes of Air America, this was where he ran drugs through.

http://members.shaw.ca/chriscpa/rick.htm

In the early 1980’s, Rik Luytjes gained two sterling reputations. One was as an upstanding businessman and pillar of the community. The other was as the most successful cocaine smuggler in US history. Over a four year period, he flew ten tons of coke, worth over twenty billion dollars, into the country.

So there can very easily be a drug connection to this case.
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Thanks!

I agree that they could have gotten it at a second hand store, but like I said they had to have come to Jefferson TWP to purchase it and have been close enough to come back or the never left before meeting their demise.
 
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