I have no family with in a 2 hour distance. You better believe my closest friends would have gotten a call. I would have needed them then more tha ever.close_enough said:you're right, you don't....i can just picture me callin up Alice Jane, or Kathy, & a couple of other good friends, after finding a ransom note stating not to call LE, & that my child might be beheaded....yeah, that's what i'd need..a few buddies hangin out at the house.....give me a break...
Amity said:I smoke (yea, yea, I know.... baaaad Amity) and there is no way on this earth I would go into someone's home where I have been graciously invited and light up. It's their home and I am a guest in that home and treat the host/hostess and their home with respect and not assume something is OK just because I haven't been told differently.
Once I'm told or given a guideline or, for lack of a better word, 'rules', then I follow them because I want to be invited back.
Websleuths is someone's Home, albeit a home/site on the www.
I am a guest in this 'Home' and I certainly want to make sure my visit here is respectful to the hostess and her other guests. Hey, I wanna be able to drop in anytime I'm in the neighborhood.
Ok, carry on.
kcksum said:so are you saying those of us who feel the ramsey's are innocent and who are offended because people call them babykillers, perverts,monsters and so forth are being rude to tricia because she thinks calling them names is ok?
I think that's so wrong!!! I love this forum, I think its a great thing, I am told to follow rules, I was pointing out rules were being broken. Trish let me know that at the Ramsey forum rules don't apply, point taken.
I was pointing out the double standard, and the forum owner made it clear she knew about the double standard and it was ok with her.
Why does that liken me to someone who lights a cigarette in a home where they're a guest?
After my post I received several private messages that people felt the same way. There are people getting warnings for saying Mark Klaas isn't an expert, but then people can openly call JR the most vile things on earth and never get so much a slap on the hand. I was just pointing that out, not dissing the whole forum.
You're right people can go elsewhere, but to say you shouldn't come here unless you agree with Tricia is wrong....I don't even think tricia would support that. Free speech is Free speech.......at websleuths its just sorta free speech and that's ok cuz tricia pays the bills. I can hang with that. But it doesn't make me rude or an a%#hole because I asked about the biasness, it was just a question.:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
With all due respect, what evidence excludes them?Tricia,
If you believe the Ramsey's (or one of them) are guilty how can you explain the evidence that they did not commit the crime.
kcksum said:so are you saying those of us who feel the ramsey's are innocent and who are offended because people call them babykillers, perverts,monsters and so forth are being rude to tricia because she thinks calling them names is ok?
I think that's so wrong!!! I love this forum, I think its a great thing, I am told to follow rules, I was pointing out rules were being broken. Trish let me know that at the Ramsey forum rules don't apply, point taken.
I was pointing out the double standard, and the forum owner made it clear she knew about the double standard and it was ok with her.
Why does that liken me to someone who lights a cigarette in a home where they're a guest?
After my post I received several private messages that people felt the same way. There are people getting warnings for saying Mark Klaas isn't an expert, but then people can openly call JR the most vile things on earth and never get so much a slap on the hand. I was just pointing that out, not dissing the whole forum.
You're right people can go elsewhere, but to say you shouldn't come here unless you agree with Tricia is wrong....I don't even think tricia would support that. Free speech is Free speech.......at websleuths its just sorta free speech and that's ok cuz tricia pays the bills. I can hang with that. But it doesn't make me rude or an a%#hole because I asked about the biasness, it was just a question.:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
I ask this question on a daily basis. People usually refer to the footprint and the window and the DNA, but all of those have been explained. Sometimes people mention the unlocked doors, to which I point out John and Patsy both said the doors were locked only to change that later.Class-z said:With all due respect, what evidence excludes them?
I guess name calling would have to be defined first, in order to say that a list owner/moderator was being impartial.name calling
Thank you - I completely agree.Pepper said:I don't pay the bills here, so I understand I got no say in the rules. But I think what upsets some of us, me included, is the absolute statement, "the Ramseys are murderers." I have no problem with those that believe the evidence points to the Ramseys. I have no problem with someone saying that "in their opinion" the Ramseys are............."
My issue lies in the absolute declarative statement without proof. Let's face it, if there was positive proof the Ramseys killed their daughter, John would already be tried, convicted and sentenced. :behindbar Since that hasn't happened, I can only conclude that in my opinion there is insufficient evidence to prosecute him or any other member of his family.
I would like to believe that Karr did it. I would like to believe that Mary Lacy has enough evidence to bring him to trial. But like everything else in this case, I have my doubts. No one has all the answers..........yet.
I always thought "in my opinion" was always implied, especially on a message board.Pepper said:I don't pay the bills here, so I understand I got no say in the rules. But I think what upsets some of us, me included, is the absolute statement, "the Ramseys are murderers." I have no problem with those that believe the evidence points to the Ramseys. I have no problem with someone saying that "in their opinion" the Ramseys are............."
My issue lies in the absolute declarative statement without proof. Let's face it, if there was positive proof the Ramseys killed their daughter, John would already be tried, convicted and sentenced. :behindbar Since that hasn't happened, I can only conclude that in my opinion there is insufficient evidence to prosecute him or any other member of his family.
I would like to believe that Karr did it. I would like to believe that Mary Lacy has enough evidence to bring him to trial. But like everything else in this case, I have my doubts. No one has all the answers..........yet.
Thanks for your post. I just wanted to point out that ANY forum like this is going to automatically take on the biases of its owners and moderators, sometimes subtly and sometimes not so subtly. This does not ONLY happen on the Ramsey forum at this website and it does not ONLY happen on this website.kcksum said:so are you saying those of us who feel the ramsey's are innocent and who are offended because people call them babykillers, perverts,monsters and so forth are being rude to tricia because she thinks calling them names is ok?
I think that's so wrong!!! I love this forum, I think its a great thing, I am told to follow rules, I was pointing out rules were being broken. Trish let me know that at the Ramsey forum rules don't apply, point taken.
I was pointing out the double standard, and the forum owner made it clear she knew about the double standard and it was ok with her.
Why does that liken me to someone who lights a cigarette in a home where they're a guest?
After my post I received several private messages that people felt the same way. There are people getting warnings for saying Mark Klaas isn't an expert, but then people can openly call JR the most vile things on earth and never get so much a slap on the hand. I was just pointing that out, not dissing the whole forum.
You're right people can go elsewhere, but to say you shouldn't come here unless you agree with Tricia is wrong....I don't even think tricia would support that. Free speech is Free speech.......at websleuths its just sorta free speech and that's ok cuz tricia pays the bills. I can hang with that. But it doesn't make me rude or an a%#hole because I asked about the biasness, it was just a question.:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:
HeartofTexas said:And lest we forget, some of those guests busied themselves by cleaning kitchen counters and tables, thus cleaning away possible valuable evidence. Talk about contaminating (and cleaning up!) a crime scene!
Will you come to my house? Please?!kwatson696 said:Well I know if I was there and my nerves were tore up, I would be cleaning too.
It's what I do...drives my husband crazy but I vaccume EVERY DAY. LOL
Hee. I know this is a few days old...but, if I off someone in my house I'm calling Tricia and RiverRat and Tybee over to help me 'find them' and straighten up and then of course Sandraladeda because she is ALWAYS cleaning. :crazy:HeartofTexas said:And lest we forget, some of those guests busied themselves by cleaning kitchen counters and tables, thus cleaning away possible valuable evidence. Talk about contaminating (and cleaning up!) a crime scene!