Poll: Why did Garrido bring Jaycee to the PO office?

[LinasK]

Yes it is confusing. That's what I thought the first time I read it, now, I'm not so sure, it sounds more like they were each in different rooms. ? I get the waiting room part though, that makes more sense now.

Anyway, when I went back and read this synopsis of what transpired that day and the day before, what nailed Garrido's butt, was the fact that the Berkeley cop heard the kids call him daddy. And that's what she was portraying to the PO when he was on the phone with her. Garrido had told the PO the day before, they were his nieces, so actually it all boils down to getting caught in a lie because of what came from the mouths of babes!

He also told them his brother was in Oakley, when his brother lives in Concord, another stupid lie easily verified!:doh::bang::loser:

 

[FlaJohn]

Thankfully this PA did his job and picked up on the lies because PG had no intention of turning himself in that day, IMHO.

 

[my2sisters]

He also told them his brother was in Oakley, when his brother lives in Concord, another stupid lie easily verified!:doh::bang::loser:

I thought he lived in Brentwood.

Kidnap suspect had criminal past, brother says
SFGate

"It just seems so bizarre, but I can believe it," said the 65-year-old Brentwood resident. "I know my brother, and I can believe he did that. ... He's a fruitcake."

 

[SunnieRN]

NG and ladies were probably escorted to a room from a waiting area. PG probably remained in the waiting area until the PO came out and escorted him into another room. I did find the wording confusing, at first, in that I thought they meant they isolated them all separately, meaning they were each alone in a room. I now understand it to mean that NG, JC and girls were in one room with PG in another.

Which leads credence to the fact that Jaycee was lying through her teeth in case she had to return home with pg and ng. I can't even imagine the types of punishment that would have befallen her if she broke first and had to go back home with them. Thank God things went the way they did!

 

[jazerelle]

Ok reading the parole report I had a wild thought. Maybe jaycee confused the stories on purpose. The two girls said earlier they had older sister. This was the story that PG was telling and yet Jaycee said she was their mother (this was not a lie). Surely she would know that they would wonder about the age and oldest daughter and age of Jaycee being only 14 years apart. I know she was coached but maybe the runaway mother was the backup story but Jaycee went ahead and said she was mother instead of first story that she was the sister of the two girls. Maybe she actually helped herself and her girls to get free in a way that would not cause her trouble if they all had actually gone home together.

And maybe this is why NG was getting all agitated because she knew that the rehearsed script was not being followed and was trying to get things back on tract.

It always seemed a little rehearsed for her to giggle and say how young she looked to be the girls mother, when in fact she was young to be their mother.

It is just a thought, please don't ream me for having it.

 

[songline]

:crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

He heard God from his box tell him to bring the entire family.
Geshhhh...I am not sure anyone can go into the mind of a mentally depraved lunatic and know WHY ?

Just happy it worked out, to free JC and the girls.
I wonder how they are REALLY doing...

Just thinking.....
The daughters may want to visit the "A" hole after the trial..
I only hope they send him far away so that it will be physically hard to get there.

 

[Natal]

Ok reading the parole report I had a wild thought. Maybe jaycee confused the stories on purpose. The two girls said earlier they had older sister. This was the story that PG was telling and yet Jaycee said she was their mother (this was not a lie). Surely she would know that they would wonder about the age and oldest daughter and age of Jaycee being only 14 years apart. I know she was coached but maybe the runaway mother was the backup story but Jaycee went ahead and said she was mother instead of first story that she was the sister of the two girls. Maybe she actually helped herself and her girls to get free in a way that would not cause her trouble if they all had actually gone home together.

And maybe this is why NG was getting all agitated because she knew that the rehearsed script was not being followed and was trying to get things back on tract.

It always seemed a little rehearsed for her to giggle and say how young she looked to be the girls mother, when in fact she was young to be their mother.

It is just a thought, please don't ream me for having it.

Well, 14 year old girls do have children, allthough uncommon it wouldn't be so unusual as to be unbelievable. In fact, until fairly recently the age of consent in Canada was 14 (it is now 16), it still is in much of South America and I believe that in parts of Mexico it is as low as 12. Finding a 29 year old woman with 15 and 11 year old daughters would not be that surprising, especially if she claimed to have come from the sticks and was running and hiding from some abusive "husband".

Btw, from the sound of the report, most of the agitation was coming from Jaycee, since she seemed to be the one doing most of the talking (or perhaps most of the questioning was directed at her since she was responding). My impression of Nancy based on what we have seen of her is that she isn't the sort of person who would take the lead in that sort of situation, I doubt she was trying to get "things on track", more likely Jaycee was leading the interview.

 

[songline]

Well, 14 year old girls do have children, allthough uncommon it wouldn't be so unusual as to be unbelievable. In fact, until fairly recently the age of consent in Canada was 14 (it is now 16), it still is in much of South America and I believe that in parts of Mexico it is as low as 12. Finding a 29 year old woman with 15 and 11 year old daughters would not be that surprising, especially if she claimed to have come from the sticks and was running and hiding from some abusive "husband".

Btw, from the sound of the report, most of the agitation was coming from Jaycee, since she seemed to be the one doing most of the talking (or perhaps most of the questioning was directed at her since she was responding). My impression of Nancy based on what we have seen of her is that she isn't the sort of person who would take the lead in that sort of situation, I doubt she was trying to get "things on track", more likely Jaycee was leading the interview.

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Nancy cant lead but JC who had been captive since she was 11 had great leadership skill :crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:
An interview is held by LE, they ask the questions, and it took a long time before JC finally came forward with true answers.
A person who was captive for 18 years, taking the lead in an interview :doh::doh::doh::doh::doh:

 

[ChaCha]

He got caught with the girls.

He knew he had to come up with a good story line or his goose was cooked.

This is why criminals get caught. They're really stupid cowards and all react to getting caught by over-reacting and over playing their hands.

He brought everyone with him to help him cover it all up.

I have no doubt this psychopath probably blamed the girls for him getting caught. He probably threatened them and Jaycee was going to try to protect them. He hasn't changed. He let her have those girls so he could use them as control tools against her.

Thank God Jaycee had the courage to say something.

She is a real hero. Pray she and her girls are getting the help they need and deserve.

I'd sue the state of CS and NV for failing to protect her.

 

[songline]

He got caught with the girls.

He knew he had to come up with a good story line or his goose was cooked.

This is why criminals get caught. They're really stupid cowards and all react to getting caught by over-reacting and over playing their hands.

He brought everyone with him to help him cover it all up.

I have no doubt this psychopath probably blamed the girls for him getting caught. He probably threatened them and Jaycee was going to try to protect them. He hasn't changed. He let her have those girls so he could use them as control tools against her.

Thank God Jaycee had the courage to say something.

She is a real hero. Pray she and her girls are getting the help they need and deserve.

I'd sue the state of CS and NV for failing to protect her.

Chacha JC was not the first one to say something...He tripped himself.. JC was afraid at first and told 2 different lies. It was not till PG told that JC spilled out the truth....

But anyway.....I still think LMAO that he took them all there because his black box told him to. (just kidding)

 

[Natal]

:crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:
Nancy cant lead but JC who had been captive since she was 11 had great leadership skill :crazy::crazy::crazy::crazy:
An interview is held by LE, they ask the questions, and it took a long time before JC finally came forward with true answers.
A person who was captive for 18 years, taking the lead in an interview :doh::doh::doh::doh::doh:

Well, the report barely mentions Nancy at all, the reported conversation was all from Jaycee, so she clearly was leading. She was a 29 year old adult btw, not an 11 year old girl. She wasn't frozen in time.

Were you not the one pushing the brainwashing argument?

Can't have it both ways when it suits you you know

 

[Natal]

Chacha JC was not the first one to say something...He tripped himself.. JC was afraid at first and told 2 different lies. It was not till PG told that JC spilled out the truth....

But anyway.....I still think LMAO that he took them all there because his black box told him to. (just kidding)

IIRC he had given the box to someone else, so it wouldn't have been sending him messages that day.

I think this question is being over-analysed anyway. The simplest explanation is the most likely. He knew the PO was investigating to find out who these girls were, so he didnt really have a choice other than to bring them in and hope for the best. The other option would be to have done nothing, and continued claiming that they were his brothers kids who were visiting for the day. But, from all accounts, the latest PO he had was much more diligent that previous , and PG would have known this, so doing nothing would have likely resulted in the PO following up with the brother and then finding out that there were no girls. That would have resulted in PG being placed under a microscope, which he most definitely would not have wanted.

Taking the girls in would then have been a pre-emptive action, since it would have taken the brother (and any interviews with him, since the girls were physically present) out of the picture. He would have been relying on the family being interviewed together, where he would have controlled the flow of the conversation, but that didnt happen.

 

[songline]

IIRC he had given the box to someone else, so it wouldn't have been sending him messages that day.

I think this question is being over-analysed anyway. The simplest explanation is the most likely. He knew the PO was investigating to find out who these girls were, so he didnt really have a choice other than to bring them in and hope for the best. The other option would be to have done nothing, and continued claiming that they were his brothers kids who were visiting for the day. But, from all accounts, the latest PO he had was much more diligent that previous , and PG would have known this, so doing nothing would have likely resulted in the PO following up with the brother and then finding out that there were no girls. That would have resulted in PG being placed under a microscope, which he most definitely would not have wanted.

Taking the girls in would then have been a pre-emptive action, since it would have taken the brother (and any interviews with him, since the girls were physically present) out of the picture. He would have been relying on the family being interviewed together, where he would have controlled the flow of the conversation, but that didnt happen.

The Box: he probably anointed it, and asked it all he pertinent questions before he gave the box away :crazy:
He did not prepare anyone to keep to ONE story....He probably trusted the box that it will all work out as usual. Meaning he'll con them and it will be just a formality.
And I really have no idea why he took them all there, but IMHO he did think he has them all in the palm of his hand and he can handle them all with some BS.

On second thought, he also handed the FBI his manifesto and IMO he either wanted to be caught or wanted to see how far he can go because he had some other plans too, like the school? Who knows? Nobody knows.....We are all just wondering.

 

[ChaCha]

Does anyone have a copy of the police report from thir visit to the police office?
Thank you.

 

[LinasK]

IIRC he had given the box to someone else, so it wouldn't have been sending him messages that day.

I think this question is being over-analysed anyway. The simplest explanation is the most likely. He knew the PO was investigating to find out who these girls were, so he didnt really have a choice other than to bring them in and hope for the best. The other option would be to have done nothing, and continued claiming that they were his brothers kids who were visiting for the day. But, from all accounts, the latest PO he had was much more diligent that previous , and PG would have known this, so doing nothing would have likely resulted in the PO following up with the brother and then finding out that there were no girls. That would have resulted in PG being placed under a microscope, which he most definitely would not have wanted.

Taking the girls in would then have been a pre-emptive action, since it would have taken the brother (and any interviews with him, since the girls were physically present) out of the picture. He would have been relying on the family being interviewed together, where he would have controlled the flow of the conversation, but that didnt happen.

Your explanation makes the most sense I've seen so far.

 

[songline]

Does anyone have a copy of the police report from their visit to the police office?
Thank you.

I only found the charges against him.

 

[songline]

IIRC he had given the box to someone else, so it wouldn't have been sending him messages that day.

I think this question is being over-analysed anyway. The simplest explanation is the most likely. He knew the PO was investigating to find out who these girls were, so he didnt really have a choice other than to bring them in and hope for the best. The other option would be to have done nothing, and continued claiming that they were his brothers kids who were visiting for the day. But, from all accounts, the latest PO he had was much more diligent that previous , and PG would have known this, so doing nothing would have likely resulted in the PO following up with the brother and then finding out that there were no girls. That would have resulted in PG being placed under a microscope, which he most definitely would not have wanted.

Taking the girls in would then have been a pre-emptive action, since it would have taken the brother (and any interviews with him, since the girls were physically present) out of the picture. He would have been relying on the family being interviewed together, where he would have controlled the flow of the conversation, but that didnt happen.

I used the box to indicate the man is clearly nuts....and crazy like a fox.
He coned them and many others for 18 years - he knew conning has always worked. When under pressure stick to what you know and always works best. No problem continuing his con games.

 

[jazerelle]

Hello everyone. Not much is new on this matter is there. So here is my revised (probably to be revised many more times) opinion on why he brought everyone. If I remember correctly, the two girls called him daddy when he was talking to the two ladies at the university (so much for them being nieces). The girls also mentioned they had an older sister so authorities now know there are three females out there. When the parole agent went to see him I believe the next day evening or maybe that evening, none of the girls were there. I think he decided since it was known about all three of the females it would seem strange to leave one home. Things are definitely falling apart. I am sure he was coaching them on what to say. And yes JD is no longer a child. She could probably see things are going south. . . so here is my thought. She asked to come along. When coaching he probably threatened them about child well fare taking them away etc. if they didn't get their "stories" straight so I think Jaycee would not have let her daughters out of her sight that day. She apparently had been going out before so why not go along that day. And she was needed for the runaway abused wife scenario. One big happy family outing.

Remember, just a thought, no need to ream me for it. Maybe when her book comes out she will explain that day.

 

[LinasK]

In the People's Opposition to the Defense Motion to Compel Discovery:
On August 25, 2009, the Defendant's Parole Agent ordered him to show up for a meeting and bring everyone that lives with him. (Of Course though, he didn't bring Patricia)

 

[Natal]

Some more information regarding why he brought them in and the "plan" from this article discussing PG's attorney's response to the DA's filing.

Of particular interest were two quotes taken from the LE interviews with one of the girls regarding what happened on the day they all went to the parole office.

Apparently he only decided to take them all that morning, it was a spur of the moment thing:

"He didn't decide that until all of a sudden early the next morning," one of the girls told investigators.

Also of interest was the fact that there was no plan and they were just winging it. One of the girls had this to say about Jaycee:

"She was just coming up with things. It wasn't set cause we didn't know what to say," the girl told authorities. "We just came in thinking we were gonna clear it up "... you know, him being with children and it's okay."