Rebecca Nalepa - suicide or murder? #5

[defense101]

IF murder, my gut feeling is that JS is not responsible in any way for RN's death. With what we know so far, it just doesn't compute for me. The man had/has far too much to loose. To be in the series of professions that he has been in requires intelligence, a cool-head, enormous self-control, reliance on logic rather than emotion, strategy building, etc. He's an educated attorney to boot. I just don't see him loosing control and doing this deed. He's spent his entire adult life building his career and his highly successful business. I would also venture to guess that his business came first in his life.

If he wanted to cast her aside as a result of MS' "fall"/death, he could have easily done-so at any point and had a devastating effect on her without putting his life/career/business/surviving children at risk.

Yes, we've seen evidence of JS' bullying and aggression toward DS but apart from the German Shepard attack, I don't believe we've seen any evidence that JS physically attacked DS. [Note: I do recall the car/elbow to breast assertion by DS but frankly with a potentially moving car and moving arms I acknowledge that I am giving him the benefit of the doubt.]

Disclaimer: I don't know him - just my gut feeling based on my experience working with men like JS and what has been disclosed about JS - and, I don't condone the type of bullying/aggression that JS exhibited.

I somewhat agree,
DS said ‘Jonah is the CEO of a large pharmaceutical corporation. He is very clever and very powerful. I feel scared of what he is capable of doing to me physically via the dog as well as the lengths he would try to go to “destroy” me in any way he was able to do so'

It doesn't seem like she was in fear of him physically as she was his power. It seems in the reports to police, it was DS who seemed to lose control.

What I also question is NN in what he said publicly about speaking to her and bringing up the credit card issue, why even bring that up publicly when speaking about her when she has just died. I don't think it was that they were going to get one as it was that they had one and RN was saying no more I'm not paying your bills?

Whoever did this there was rage here imo

 

[Quester]

BBM

I thought about that also Quester, and that's the only reason I have my doubts about JS, however, I still think it's possible. DS however, a whole different story. I can see her completely losing it and committing this crime.

That being said, I still say this "case" will never go to court. Way to much $$$$ involved. I hope that I'm wrong, and that whoever prepetrated this horrible fate on Rebecca pays the price in full.

RE: JS - I agree 4Jacy, it's possible but, in my opinion at this point, not probable.

RE: DS - As you wisely said, "a whole different story" !!! After following this case I think I can fully understand the strong possibility of her built up rage against RN. I can imagine it, I can manifest it and I can imagine how that rage could uncontrollably explode.

RE: Your statement, "this 'case' will never go to court"; are you thinking there will be a plea or are you thinking because of the $$$$s charges will not be made?

 

[Paladine]

This is REUTERS. REUTERS. THAT used to mean something...at least to me. It's an older piece from July 15th, 5 am-ish...

Just posting this, from a MSM source, to see if this bears out to be true...(I do recall pfreeins transcribed info from radio calls that said 2 females were escorted to hospital...but how can Reuters get it wrong, too? < My pet peeve.

Shacknai was not present when authorities were called to his home on Monday morning, finding only the injured boy and his girlfriend at the residence.

http://in.reuters.com/article/2011/07/15/homicide-medicis-idINN1E76D1IK20110715?type=companyNews

 

[defense101]

The tying up to me shows that whoever it was may not have been able to commit the murder had she not been tied up. If it shows she was strangled or possibly smothered prior to hanging then the killer needed her controlled to do do it. Which would bring me to see a smaller person other than JS doing it. If it was JS, why all the tying up, why hang her from a balcony in his home? Why not just make her disappear? I keep going around in circles here, I would like to know what NN was doing as well during that time.

 

[Paladine]

The tying up to me shows that whoever it was may not have been able to commit the murder had she not been tied up. If it shows she was strangled or possibly smothered prior to hanging then the killer needed her controlled to do do it. Which would bring me to see a smaller person other than JS doing it. If it was JS, why all the tying up, why hang her from a balcony in his home? Why not just make her disappear? I keep going around in circles here, I would like to what NN was doing as well during that time.

I cannot see JS setting out to kill Rebecca...but I can see him losing control...IMO.

THEN, I can see AS helping JS make the scene look really twisted as to point in another direction. JS is not off my list, yet.

 

[Quester]

The tying up to me shows that whoever it was may not have been able to commit the murder had she not been tied up. If it shows she was strangled or possibly smothered prior to hanging then the killer needed her controlled to do do it. Which would bring me to see a smaller person other than JS doing it. If it was JS, why all the tying up, why hang her from a balcony in his home? Why not just make her disappear? I keep going around in circles here, I would like to know what NN was doing as well during that time.

Are you suggesting smothered to unconsciousness, then bound, then hung to death?

If so, I wonder how that series of events would affect ME's ability to differentiate suicide from murder?

Calling pferrin - please, can you ask your brother? TIA

 

[defense101]

I cannot see JS setting out to kill Rebecca...but I can see him losing control...IMO.

THEN, I can see AS helping JS make the scene look really twisted as to point in another direction. JS is not off my list, yet.

I can see anyone of them (DS JS NN) losing control, I just don't understand why JS would want to create that kind of a spectacle in his backyard? To me that just leads you to him, going in circles again...

 

[Paladine]

I can see anyone of them (DS JS NN) losing control, I just don't understand why JS would want to create that kind of a spectacle in his backyard? To me that just leads you to him, going in circles again...

In my mind>, rage is all about losing control...he, in this theory/scenario, didn't WANT to create the mess...the way I see it, he worked his whole life making things appear 'perfect'...but when in a true rage, imo, one is not thinking, it's more feral and from the gut than that...imo.

ETA: the 'thinking' comes into how to stage the scene...but, I'm getting way ahead of myself and I can't take the time to explain my thoughts clearly...the BBQ is raging, itself, lol...and the family calls...interesting discussion, defense Thanks...

 

[revampz]

I too find it hard to beleive that this guy with so much to lose and by all reports loved this woman enough to marry her risks it all by murdering a woman for maybe not watching his child properly and an accident happening, this could happen to anyone and she is not totally to blame. And her death if it is murder, was so publicly humiliating to her. It is just too ugly a payback for what she was suppose to have done. Whoever did this I think really hated her.

I just have this gut feeling that there is more to this story than what we the general public know.

I can easily seeing the mother being that angry at this woman and blaming her in her time of grief, especially if she hated her. But whoa, I just cant see a woman being able to overpower her and do this, only if she had someone else do it.

The only way I can see the uncle doing this, is if he was promised something, money or similar, he really did not have strong enough motive to kill her like this.

Also if JS is responsible, the only scenario I can come up with is that, as the rumor says, he did leave the hospital and go home, not to kill her, but just to go home......maybe she was naked waiting for him for hanky panky and she said something to upset/offend him or he thought that her (the one who hadnt done her job properly when his beloved son died) wanting hanky panky at a time like this was offensive to him and angered him, killed her out of rage and his brother help set the staging scene.

Just an idea I came up with lying in bed thinking about it last night and what would make me angry enough to kill someone I supposedly love........prattle over

 

[Salem]

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Salem