recent Hailey items

[scorekeeper]

Just stopping in to say: Hailey, still thinking of you ((((hugs))))

 

[TxLady2]

The problem I see is that we probably can't expect the Colorado City PD (with only 7 officers) or the Mitchell County Sheriffs Office to have the available manpower or expertise needed for this case, no matter how well intentioned they are. I'd like to know if they are still getting assistance from the Rangers or whatever state LE.

How big is Mitchell Co.? I haven't been in that area in years, but most SD's have more manpower than a small local PD, because they cover the entire county. But maybe they don't have that many real detectives/investigators. I am pretty sure the PD in Colorado City don't do much investigating on this (or any other) case. JMO, but they can claim it's still an active investigation, while not really doing anything beyond looking at the file maybe once a day or a meeting of the task force once a week to discuss whether there is any new evidence. It's a cold case, there's no doubt about that.

 

[Tugela]

The problem I see is that we probably can't expect the Colorado City PD (with only 7 officers) or the Mitchell County Sheriffs Office to have the available manpower or expertise needed for this case, no matter how well intentioned they are. I'd like to know if they are still getting assistance from the Rangers or whatever state LE.

The issue is that there are zero leads to investigate and pretty much no evidence of anything other than she is gone. They could have all the manpower in the world and it still wouldn't change those basic facts.

 

[Tugela]

How big is Mitchell Co.? I haven't been in that area in years, but most SD's have more manpower than a small local PD, because they cover the entire county. But maybe they don't have that many real detectives/investigators. I am pretty sure the PD in Colorado City don't do much investigating on this (or any other) case. JMO, but they can claim it's still an active investigation, while not really doing anything beyond looking at the file maybe once a day or a meeting of the task force once a week to discuss whether there is any new evidence. It's a cold case, there's no doubt about that.

LE can only investigate when there is something to investigate. The problem with this case is that there isn't anything, at least there isn't anything along the lines they are currently focussed on. That has been the issue from the start. There was no evidence of anything, and the possibilities they considered initially didn't pan out. It is way too late to look at alternative scenarios now, any evidence for those is long gone by now.

 

[sreshowtime]

there might be stuff to investigate...I guess it depends on one's perspective as to what is investigatible or not...depending on one's focus
IMO
did i make up a word? investigatible

why is it too late?
IMHO until she is found, it is never too late

 

[ozazure]

Personally I'd like to see that freshly painted living room and thrown out couch tested for a start.

 

[summer_breeze]

http://www.kcbd.com/story/19399826/missing-teen-hailey-dunn-turns-15-years-old

Posted: Aug 28, 2012 5:32 PM EDT
Updated: Aug 28, 2012 5:37 PM EDT
By Tiffany Pelt

Short article at link

 

[Soulmagent]

Personally I'd like to see that freshly painted living room and thrown out couch tested for a start.

I have zero doubts they were tested. I would like to know if they tested the hotel room with luminol.

 

[sreshowtime]

I would like to know if a trunk of a car could be tested for urine/fecal matter

 

[Tugela]

I would like to know if a trunk of a car could be tested for urine/fecal matter

They did execute a search warrant on the vehicle, and didn't find anything.

But that is not really surprising since we know that HD was well enough to send a text message in CC while SA (and presumably the vehicle) was in Big Spring. And the open time window after he got back to CC was too small to realistically have done anything. So, they were not going to find anything anyway. This is what I mean about them looking in the wrong places. At the time LE must have known all this, but they still looked at the car anyway even though it was probably one of the least likely places to find anything.

And in the "open time window" BD was at work, DD was with his friend, HD's little friend was who knows where, the GM was taking the GF shopping, and CD was home alone. Are there any other principal characters who we know were in the general area?

 

[For The Kids]

The problem I see is that we probably can't expect the Colorado City PD (with only 7 officers) or the Mitchell County Sheriffs Office to have the available manpower or expertise needed for this case, no matter how well intentioned they are. I'd like to know if they are still getting assistance from the Rangers or whatever state LE.

I have to say I totally disagree with this. Firstly they were offered the help of probably one of the best rescue teams in the world. They turned this down. Secondly Carrie McGonigle was giving a speech at some event. He was a specialist in abductions and it turns out he was actually based close to Colorado city. He offered CC his help and HE too was turned down. Also they tried to get team Adam involved and again they turned that down. I also know of a ex cop from CCity that had left there and who had offered to go back there simply to work on Haileys case and he too was declined ( I actually spoke to him about that personally out of curiousity) so whilst they may be a small outfit in CCIty...they DID have specialised help offered to them and refused it all. As for Kelsey...because she says she does things in an interview doesnt mean its reality. What I will never understand about these people ( and that included Kelsey) is why TES was refused and some stupid psychic searcher was allowed to go there? In all honesty to me it is like they dont want her to be found ;(

 

[hollyblue]

They did execute a search warrant on the vehicle, and didn't find anything.

But that is not really surprising since we know that HD was well enough to send a text message in CC while SA (and presumably the vehicle) was in Big Spring. And the open time window after he got back to CC was too small to realistically have done anything. So, they were not going to find anything anyway. This is what I mean about them looking in the wrong places. At the time LE must have known all this, but they still looked at the car anyway even though it was probably one of the least likely places to find anything.

And in the "open time window" BD was at work, DD was with his friend, HD's little friend was who knows where, the GM was taking the GF shopping, and CD was home alone. Are there any other principal characters who we know were in the general area?

The relatives visiting from OK for Christmas that were staying with GMa. Can't remember his name now, but it was Clint's sister's husband. He did interviews on the radio show. They left to return the day HD went missing..shortly before the Gma came to CC to take CD's gf shopping. Which was also around the exact time she supposedly went missing. IIRC

 

[sreshowtime]

that would be Richey Cooper , I believe he is now ex husband of Mary Lajohnna Glassey (Glasco), daughter of Connie Jones Farmer, Clint's mother.

 

[For The Kids]

that would be Richey Cooper , I believe he is now ex husband of Mary Lajohnna Glassey (Glasco), daughter of Connie Jones Farmer, Clint's mother.

Yes you are correct


The other thing is Tugela said we know that Hailey was welll en ough to send that text message at 2 pm well the fact is..we dont know that it was her who sent that at all. We dont know who was in the house that day whilst Billie was at work.

One thing I think is great that Billie has finally worked out precisely what he is like

 

[sreshowtime]

Yes there is still a lot we don't know,isn't there, For the Kids? Maybe someone's memory has improved with time, just saying. ahem

 

[Tugela]

Yes you are correct


The other thing is Tugela said we know that Hailey was welll en ough to send that text message at 2 pm well the fact is..we dont know that it was her who sent that at all. We dont know who was in the house that day whilst Billie was at work.

One thing I think is great that Billie has finally worked out precisely what he is like

One of the eye witness accounts had her using the phone in the back yard around mid day IIRC.

If it wasn't her, who else could it have been? It would have to have been someone who had access, was in town and knew her well enough to know who her friend was. That is a pretty short list IMO, the obvious person would be HD herself.

 

[For The Kids]

One of the eye witness accounts had her using the phone in the back yard around mid day IIRC.

If it wasn't her, who else could it have been? It would have to have been someone who had access, was in town and knew her well enough to know who her friend was. That is a pretty short list IMO, the obvious person would be HD herself.

Didnt someone say the guy who claimed that it was Hailey outside that day couldnt be believed? As for who it could have been who text i have no idea. I wasnt in the house that day so I dont know who was there but I do know I dont believe it wasnt Hailey and from what I have seen of Shawn through his own actions he really isnt nice and I more than believe he could have done something to Hailey

 

[Tugela]

Well, he said he saw her using the phone at around that time, and the phone was used. So those things go together, in spite of what others say about his credibility. You might say he knew it was used because he used it, but if that was the case then what explanation would there be for SA seeing her when he got home? You would have to invoke a conspiracy then, and there is no evidence of that.

 

[Knox]

Well, he said he saw her using the phone at around that time, and the phone was used. So those things go together, in spite of what others say about his credibility. You might say he knew it was used because he used it, but if that was the case then what explanation would there be for SA seeing her when he got home? You would have to invoke a conspiracy then, and there is no evidence of that.

Can you please link me to the article where LE said the phone was used at the same time the neighbor saw Hailey in the backyard? I don't remember reading that.

 

[Knox]

GRACE: One more thing I`ve got to ask you. You have told me, and we have asked police, and they tell us they cannot confirm it, that a neighbor sees your daughter Hailey in your backyard around 12:00 noon, talking on the cell phone. That would be the Monday. The Monday she goes missing.

But police say they have tried to verify that, and they cannot. Are you positive? And what neighbor is it?

DUNN: He is actually living in a neighbor`s house. I think his name is Charles. The man that owns the house is Travis. But he told us that he seen Hailey in the backyard and he said he told police that also.

GRACE: OK, because we have asked police and they`re telling us they cannot verify it. And if that`s true, that means that nobody absolutely can positively say they saw Hailey since the night before at 10:00 when you saw her watching TV.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1101/12/ng.01.html