REVISIT There wasn't a babysitter, Casey didn't have a job,What's going on?

[Marple]

She really didn't have any expenses so I think stealing was how she paid her minimal obligations. I think she spent her days hanging around the Orlando area, driving, shopping, just staying away from the house until the parents came home. I believe she had Caylee with her during these times but the evenings posed a problem because that's when she wanted to hang out with friends.

 

[Reality Orlando]

I noted that one of the witnesses that testified said that KC didn't really drink much because of Caylee, but I have to wonder if that was really because she didn't have the money to drink when they went out. You can get a soda for a lot less than a drink. I wonder how many times she told friends she'd already eaten when they went out to restaurants or that she was saving up for something for Caylee so others bought her drinks or paid her cover charges.

 

[Bravo]

In my opinion she spent her time scheming,befriending and thinking about the next person she could steal from.

 

[Pattymarie]

Stealing, texting and very resentfully "babysitting" her own daughter. When she fell into the Full Sail crowd....well that spelled the end to her babysitting days.

 

[Steely Dan]

Why didn't anyone see her around town with Caylee back then?

 

[Quiche]

Plotting where she was going to rob and pilfer next-- I think WW was on her mind in that regard. jmo

Oh, and Fusian. Yep, she'd rip that place off eventually. mo

 

[Tink]

I think she probably sometimes came back to the house when her parents weren't home, too.

When you look at her activities for the 31 days that we have in some detail, she seemed to move around from one friend's home to another, with shopping trips mixed in. I'm sure that's about the same as she'd been doing before, only she had to drag Caylee along with her.

Tink

 

[Steely Dan]

WW? :waitasec:

 

[Quiche]

WW? :waitasec:

William Waters-- he held the 4th of July party and testified on the 27th. He wanted to take her on a helicopter ride-- he was quite smitten with her. mo

 

[Steely Dan]

I wish somebody could do an accounting of how much she spent/stole and see how large the difference is.

 

[SevenSeas]

Stealing, texting and very resentfully "babysitting" her own daughter. When she fell into the Full Sail crowd....well that spelled the end to her babysitting days.

ITA! She thought TonE would be her total ticket to the good life...BELLA VITA! :loser:

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I know she was stealing but if she was stealing to the extent that would equal a paycheck she'd have to do more than steal from her family. She had to be getting money from someplace else. JMO

The second question is where was she going all day and what was she doing with Caylee? :waitasec:

What's your theory?

ETA: I'd say call girl but she'd have a lot of money if that were the case. JMO

These are two great questions, and questions I have wondered about for a while now, which really go "hand-in-hand".

We know she had been stealing money from Cindy and her grandmother's accounts for months -- and this is BEFORE the 31 Days. ICA's "theft" continued during the 31 Days with the additional stealing from her friend Amy.

What I do NOT understand is this : ICA's parents HAD TO KNOW SHE DID NOT HAVE A JOB because she had been continuously stealing money, gas from them for months !

So if your child who lives with you is paying her cell phone bill from YOUR Bank Account, and your child "supposedly" has a job, wouldn't you know that something is wrong here ? Wouldn't you CONFRONT your child and put an end to it, or ask your child what are you doing with your money, and tell them to pay their own bill ?

So ... this leads right into the second question because if she had NO MONEY then she had NO JOB !

So how did ICA keep up this facade of going to work for almost 2 years ?

Where did she go ? We know she liked shopping ... we know she liked the bars ... but what about the rest of the time ?

What a "master manipulator" she must have been during all that time ...

And poor little Caylee ... what did ICA really do with her when she did NOT have CA and GA to babysit her ? It's just incomprehsible !

:cow::cow::cow:

 

[Reality Orlando]

Why didn't anyone see her around town with Caylee back then?

Do I remember CA saying something about season passes to Disney at some point? Also, anyone who works at the theme parks gets free passes that they share with friends. KC could have gotten her and Caylee into any of the parks in the area with very little trouble. Wet and Wild is pretty reasonable during FL resident days (Caylee LOVED swimming and water) and there's always the beach which is free. There are LOTS of nature areas, parks, etc. nearby also free. There's no doubt in my mind that KC could find any number of ways to fill her days and be off the radar of family and friends. It still doesn't answer how she got money though. She had to be getting some at least for gas, insurance, etc.

 

[Steely Dan]

Do I remember CA saying something about season passes to Disney at some point? Also, anyone who works at the theme parks gets free passes that they share with friends. KC could have gotten her and Caylee into any of the parks in the area with very little trouble. Wet and Wild is pretty reasonable during FL resident days (Caylee LOVED swimming and water) and there's always the beach which is free. There are LOTS of nature areas, parks, etc. nearby also free. There's no doubt in my mind that KC could find any number of ways to fill her days and be off the radar of family and friends. It still doesn't answer how she got money though. She had to be getting some at least for gas, insurance, etc.

She wasn't really tan and so that suggests to me that she was indoors somewhere. JMO

 

[Bobbarita]

She wasn't really tan and so that suggests to me that she was indoors somewhere. JMO

Great point!

 

[ZsaZsa]

These are two great questions, and questions I have wondered about for a while now, which really go "hand-in-hand".

We know she had been stealing money from Cindy and her grandmother's accounts for months -- and this is BEFORE the 31 Days. ICA's "theft" continued during the 31 Days with the additional stealing from her friend Amy.

What I do NOT understand is this : ICA's parents HAD TO KNOW SHE DID NOT HAVE A JOB because she had been continuously stealing money, gas from them for months !

So if your child who lives with you is paying her cell phone bill from YOUR Bank Account, and your child "supposedly" has a job, wouldn't you know that something is wrong here ? Wouldn't you CONFRONT your child and put an end to it, or ask your child what are you doing with your money, and tell them to pay their own bill ?

So ... this leads right into the second question because if she had NO MONEY then she had NO JOB !

So how did ICA keep up this facade of going to work for almost 2 years ?

Where did she go ? We know she liked shopping ... we know she liked the bars ... but what about the rest of the time ?

What a "master manipulator" she must have been during all that time ...

And poor little Caylee ... what did ICA really do with her when she did NOT have CA and GA to babysit her ? It's just incomprehsible !

:cow::cow::cow:

From what we have seen she just went out at lunchtime (to go to work) then as soon as GA was at work (3-11pm) she went back home and lazed around, or she dropped Caylee off with CA at her work close to quitting time,then went out socializing with friends.
AS long as someone else was babysitting she was a free agent....

 

[txsvicki]

I'd like to have a list of George's employment those two years and just when Casey quit her job permanently plus got the reprimand. We know that she claimed to be working at sport's authority for awhile but was really just hanging out, so she was probably staying home during the day. The three months that she went with Ricardo she was probably staying at his house all day IF George was home or claiming it was her day off. Casey probably made up differing work hours to get the Anthony's to babysit so that she could go out at night. Many of the nights she took Caylee along to parties she probably claimed to have a sitter or was going out with a girlfriend. She had it all down to a science, and most likely had all sorts of excuses about not getting paid very much or having lots of expenses. I've always figured that Casey conned Cindy into giving her quite a leeway with money for allowing Cindy to carry the Casey and Caylee as dependants. That would have caused Casey to miss out on getting the earned income credit plus have more money taken out of her pretend checks. It will be interesting to hopefully find out what all went on.

 

[AnnaMouse]

Cindy said that Casey "worked" different hours because of her job. If she wanted to lounge around during the day, she could claim she was working that night. If she had somewhere to go during the day, she would tell her parents she had to work during the daytime. The same with her friends--she could go with them whenever she wanted to because she could tell her friends she was working later or was off that day.

I have been laughing when they keep discussing how Casey was "dressed" for work. Did anyone even check to see what event coordinators wear at Universal. I can tell you exactly. First you come to work in your shorts, jeans, warmup pant, p.j.'s, or whatever. You enter backstage (Gate 2) into the wardrobe building. There you go into the locker room and change into your wardrobe which is issued to you in the wardrobe building. Wanna know what that wardrobe is for event coordinators? Yellow polo shirt with Universal Orlando logo and tan/khaki docker style pants or shorts. So she would not be "dressed up" for work (since you dress at work). Even if she was wearing the events coordinator wardrobe when she went home it would be khaki shorts and yellow polo shirt. She was leaving her home "dressed" to party at the clubs not for work. I should know as I have worked many times as an event coordinator at Universal.

 

[future criminologist]

So my theory on What KC was really doing is the following. I think she was the one looking up the escort services on the computer. I don't know personally about escort services but I am familiar with strip clubs. Don't ask. Anyway, they have the "moms" to speak of that make the dancers dinner and kinda take care of them. I am wondering if escort services have something similiar. In other words, I wonder if Zani was the person who watched Caylee while her mother was with clients. She did tell GA on 6/16 that she was working late and was spending the nite out. When she spent the night out before she told her mother she was at Zani's house.

The other thing that makes me think this is the case is the jail house phone calls. I don't think it was that anyone physically threatened her or her family, but she knew if she told them everything about Zani then the entire world would know that she was a hooker. This also explains the comment she made to her mother that when the found Caylee she would be able to get out of jail. KC responds possiblity, maybe. Perhaps she was concerned that when the found Caylee they would know she was a hooker and therefore still be arrested.

Not to play devil's advocate here, but what I can't get past in the hooker theory is that if CA was moonlighting as a hooker, there should be a witness - another hooker, the escort agency she worked at - LE would have connected with Vice at some point and asked around and gotten some evidence to this - phone records of calls with clients, transactions made, etc. I just find it hard to believe that, with all we know about what CA did, and how often she was texting and/or on the phone, that there wouldn't be SOME indication of this sort of activity. CA is an arrogant sociopath who pretty much lies all the time and has no moral boundaries, at least from what I can ascertain - she's not so slick as to be able to hide such evidence, IMO.

 

[Pink Panther]

These are two great questions, and questions I have wondered about for a while now, which really go "hand-in-hand".

We know she had been stealing money from Cindy and her grandmother's accounts for months -- and this is BEFORE the 31 Days. ICA's "theft" continued during the 31 Days with the additional stealing from her friend Amy.

What I do NOT understand is this : ICA's parents HAD TO KNOW SHE DID NOT HAVE A JOB because she had been continuously stealing money, gas from them for months !

So if your child who lives with you is paying her cell phone bill from YOUR Bank Account, and your child "supposedly" has a job, wouldn't you know that something is wrong here ? Wouldn't you CONFRONT your child and put an end to it, or ask your child what are you doing with your money, and tell them to pay their own bill ?

So ... this leads right into the second question because if she had NO MONEY then she had NO JOB !

So how did ICA keep up this facade of going to work for almost 2 years ?

Where did she go ? We know she liked shopping ... we know she liked the bars ... but what about the rest of the time ?

What a "master manipulator" she must have been during all that time ...

And poor little Caylee ... what did ICA really do with her when she did NOT have CA and GA to babysit her ? It's just incomprehsible !

:cow::cow::cow:

Master manipulator indeed. I have no doubt that she was! But her parents let her be so. They accepted anything she offered. Why? What were their secrets? What failings were they covering for? I don't believe that they commited this crime but they certainly tried to help cover it up. What does that say about them?

moo

ETA - She's guilty as sin imo. Don't get me wrong. I just think the whole family stinks.

moo