Australia Samantha Murphy, 51, last seen leaving her property to go for a run in the Canadian State Forest, Ballarat 100km NW of Melbourne, 4 Feb 2024 #4

[T-dawg420]

With reference to how long SM took on her run, it’s quite hard IMO to comment on an individual who you don’t personally know, on how fast they go, how far they can go etc.

She obviously had covid recently, so that could really have an effect on her, depending on how hard it hit and how long her symptoms were, and what damage it might have done to her body.

Another variable is we don’t know what happened the previous day/night. Maybe she had an exhaustive day doing manual labour, they do own a larger property. Also maybe she had a big night on the drink, it was a Saturday after all. I know personally when I’ve climbed into some alcoholic beverages the night before my exercise regime gets effected, esp going for a run/walk, sometimes it’s like I’m moving in quicksand with concrete shoes on lol.

Maybe she also had a crap nights sleep, who knows.

It’s just hard to make concrete conclusions when there are possibly many outside variables and factors that could impact on someone’s normal routine, esp an exercise routine. .

 

[BreakingNews]

I see this expression as directed mainly to kids.

It somehow indicates immaturity of a person who must be "kept in line".

It seems OK during family party as a joke,
but not in business setting.

JMO

Its fine in layed back Aussie blue collar businesses. I've never heard of it used in a negative way that people could take offence to. Ok, might not be totally politically correct, but Aussies love a good joke at ourselves. Just Aussies being Aussies.

 

[Dotta]

"Volunteer search crews ​

forced to abandon search efforts for Samantha Murphy​

due to catastrophic weather conditions.​

A volunteer-led search has been cancelled as a catastrophic fire danger rating is put in place for the region.

Temperatures are set to reach up to 38C and authorities have warned residents in the area to evacuate."

Grim update in search for missing mum

A volunteer-led search for missing Ballarat woman Samantha Murphy has been cancelled as a catastrophic fire danger rating is put in place for the region.

www-news-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[Detective Willy]

If Sams remains have been dumped in the bush then the chances of her ever being found will be so much more difficult now.

 

[ProfCluezo]

Well
I decided to skip it.
I love mushrooms!!!!!!

Fair enough! Mushroom sales did decrease here… significantly as a result of the incident… so good to protect your positive associations with mushrooms if you enjoy them

 

[Poirot's niece]

With reference to how long SM took on her run, it’s quite hard IMO to comment on an individual who you don’t personally know, on how fast they go, how far they can go etc.

She obviously had covid recently, so that could really have an effect on her, depending on how hard it hit and how long her symptoms were, and what damage it might have done to her body.

Another variable is we don’t know what happened the previous day/night. Maybe she had an exhaustive day doing manual labour, they do own a larger property. Also maybe she had a big night on the drink, it was a Saturday after all. I know personally when I’ve climbed into some alcoholic beverages the night before my exercise regime gets effected, esp going for a run/walk, sometimes it’s like I’m moving in quicksand with concrete shoes on lol.

Maybe she also had a crap nights sleep, who knows.

It’s just hard to make concrete conclusions when there are possibly many outside variables and factors that could impact on someone’s normal routine, esp an exercise routine. .

Agree and as we know they were out for dinner on the Saturday night, maybe it was a late one.
Also, your point about manual labour on their large property. I wonder if they do all the maintenance and gardening themselves, or have someone that they regularly outsource some or many jobs to? Its a lot of time and work keeping a place like that to the standard shown.

 

[ZombieKittie]

"Volunteer search crews ​

forced to abandon search efforts for Samantha Murphy​

due to catastrophic weather conditions.​

A volunteer-led search has been cancelled as a catastrophic fire danger rating is put in place for the region.

Temperatures are set to reach up to 38C and authorities have warned residents in the area to evacuate."

Grim update in search for missing mum

A volunteer-led search for missing Ballarat woman Samantha Murphy has been cancelled as a catastrophic fire danger rating is put in place for the region.

www-news-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org

That's interesting considering the most recent update on that fire on the vicemergency site has it listed as a "Watch and Act - Not Safe to Return" and states that

• Today, Tuesday 27 February, firefighters are taking advantage of the cooler weather to create and strengthen control lines around the fire.

And as far as I can tell there are no current evacuation recommendations.

I'm not saying they shouldn't have cancelled just find the contradicting info interesting

 

[blushcherry]

That's interesting considering the most recent update on that fire on the vicemergency site has it listed as a "Watch and Act - Not Safe to Return" and states that

• Today, Tuesday 27 February, firefighters are taking advantage of the cooler weather to create and strengthen control lines around the fire.

And as far as I can tell there are no current evacuation recommendations.

I'm not saying they shouldn't have cancelled just find the contradicting info interesting

This is incorrect information. They are formally recommending the area NW of Ballarat - towards Beaufort - evacuate from tonight/early tomorrow. It is going to be 38c tomorrow which is what this article refers to. There is no contradicting info.

 

[PolyDot]

In a special edition of Under Investigation this week Liz Hayes and a team of experts travel to Ballarat to delve into the mysterious disappearance of 51-year-old Samantha Murphy.

The team, which includes veteran missing persons specialist Valentine Smith, former Victorian detective Damian Marrett and mineshaft explorer Raymond Shaw, will examine bush trails and retrace Samantha Murphy’s steps when she set out from her home on her early morning run on February 4.

The team will also hear from Sissy Austin, who survived a brutal attack while also jogging in the bushland a year before Samantha Murphy’s disappearance. Her exclusive presence at the Under Investigation War Table offers the team invaluable insights and local knowledge.

Under Investigation will also analyse the critical evidence that may ultimately solve this mystery. Technology specialist Nigel Phair will follow Samantha’s digital footsteps and the vital data collected from the phone she was carrying and the watch she was wearing – extraordinary digital clues to her last movements.

Wednesday at 9.00pm on Nine.

Under Investigation: Feb 28 | TV Tonight

Liz Hayes and expert panel travel to Ballarat to retrace the steps Samantha Murphy undertook on her early morning run.

tvtonight.com.au

This show will certainly put pressure on the perp …

 

[ProfCluezo]

Can any fellow sleuthers enlighten me (and others) Re how such a “media strategy” tends to work? Is the idea to: 1) prime people of the recollection of more precise info they may not have realised is relevant? And/or 2) to put a push on anyone who may indirectly know or suspect something that has hesitated thus far to make a call? And/or 3) to try to get the person(S) responsible to turn themselves in to police? And/or anything else? Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I’m just interested to learn more…

 

[SouthAussie]

Can any fellow sleuthers enlighten me (and others) Re how such a “media strategy” tends to work? Is the idea to: 1) prime people of the recollection of more precise info they may not have realised is relevant? And/or 2) to put a push on anyone who may indirectly know or suspect something that has hesitated thus far to make a call? And/or 3) to try to get the person(S) responsible to turn themselves in to police? And/or anything else? Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I’m just interested to learn more…

If you are referring to the Under Investigation show tomorrow night, I don't think that is a media strategy. I think it is Under Investigation doing a show about a high profile current case.

I think the strategy came in when the police allowed themselves to be photographed searching on Boak Road. It would not surprise me if any serious POI they may have was being watched/listened to after those photos were shown in MSM.

imo

 

[ProfCluezo]

If you are referring to the Under Investigation show tomorrow night, I don't think that is a media strategy. I think it is Under Investigation doing a show about a high profile current case.

I think the strategy came in when the police allowed themselves to be photographed searching on Boak Road. It would not surprise me if any serious POI they may have was being watched/listened to after those photos were shown in MSM.

imo

Oh… got it! Thank you

 

[southgoldengirl]

Can any fellow sleuthers enlighten me (and others) Re how such a “media strategy” tends to work? Is the idea to: 1) prime people of the recollection of more precise info they may not have realised is relevant? And/or 2) to put a push on anyone who may indirectly know or suspect something that has hesitated thus far to make a call? And/or 3) to try to get the person(S) responsible to turn themselves in to police? And/or anything else? Sorry if this is a stupid question, but I’m just interested to learn more…

Sometimes in these shows the police are working in tandem with the media to flush out the perpetrator or people who have relevant information.
So what will be revealed is information that the police have eg CCTV footage or Car make or model of the offender. This may make the offender panic and attempt to discard the vehicle, move the body or do something else that implicates them all the while they are already being surveilled and or bugged. IMO

 

[PolyDot]

I do think it is very interesting that none of SM’s family & friends have spoken . I have a feeling they have been told not to speak to the media - maybe the have a good understanding of who might have done this .

 

[ProfCluezo]

Oh this is interesting…. Thank you!

 

[IHAVENOCLUE]

Perhaps the people opposed to CCTV in areas where dumping occurs...
are the very people who do the dumping?

Just a thought...

 

[fawlty towers]

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(Under Investigation will also analyse the critical evidence that may ultimately solve this mystery. Technology specialist Nigel Phair will follow Samantha’s digital footsteps and the vital data collected from the phone she was carrying and the watch she was wearing – extraordinary digital clues to her last movements).

 

[SouthAussie]

<modsnip - quoted post was removed> How can this be? (Under Investigation will also analyse the critical evidence that may ultimately solve this mystery. Technology specialist Nigel Phair will follow Samantha’s digital footsteps and the vital data collected from the phone she was carrying and the watch she was wearing – extraordinary digital clues to her last movements).

We will have to wait and see, but I think it is likely they will show "scenarios".

Those of us who followed the Theo Hayez case are aware of the detailed tracking that GPS can show. I imagine they will show this kind of tracking as something that may have helped the police in this case (seeing that Sam wore an Apple watch). Not all of the public is aware of this type of thing.

Like in the Leongatha poisonings show, they had experts in to speak of various things about mushroom poisoning.

It just provides the public with further knowledge, and is good for ratings.

imo

 

[ZombieKittie]

We will have to wait and see, but I think it is likely they will show "scenarios".

Those of us who followed the Theo Hayez case are aware of the detailed tracking that GPS can show. I imagine they will show this kind of tracking as something that may have helped the police in this case (seeing that Sam wore an Apple watch). Not all of the public is aware of this type of thing.

Like in the Leongatha poisonings show, they had experts in to speak of various things about mushroom poisoning.

It just provides the public with further knowledge, and is good for ratings.

imo

While I disagree with the click-baiting nature of these shows I do believe that presenting the public with possible scenarios can potentially jog someone's memory of something they have seen

 

[southgoldengirl]

<modsnip - quoted post was removed. What follows refers to Liz Hayes programming> It seems it was a catalyst in the Russell Hill and Carol Clay disappearance. If iirc it was the first time the public was bought to the attention of the ute and trailer that arguably sent Lynn in a spin