State v Bradley Cooper - March 22, 2011

[ncsu95]

How do we know she didn't wear it the evening of 7/11?

Another thought is she may have worn them to bed. They are comfortable.

Did you see the dress she was wearing? I don't think a jogging bra would have gone with that.

 

[jumpstreet]

Check the
North Carolina General Statutes Chapter 8C Evidence Code

Read that, and you will think today's session was traveling at a Ferrari Enzo speed. But evidence rules are there...

Thanks borndem - good reference! Wow - you are right - not surprisingly, athere are lot of "i's to dot" when it comes to presenting evidence. Prosecution is probably just trying to ensure they are all dotted neatly.

I didn't find anything that definititively said it would be mandatory to hear direct testimony from every single person who came in contact with all evidence all the way up the chain, but didn't see anything that precluded it either (so maybe it will be necessary, as otherwise, what's the point of a trail...).

I did notice this bit-

Although relevant, evidence (/testimony) may be excluded if its probative value is substantially outweighed by the danger of unfair prejudice, confusion of the issues, or misleading the jury, or by considerations of undue delay, waste of time, or needless presentation of cumulative evidence​

Do we have any actual lawyers reading WS (other than of course the defense team) who can help interpret?

 

[johnfear]

Thanks borndem - good reference! Wow - you are right - not surprisingly, athere are lot of "i's to dot" when it comes to presenting evidence. Prosecution is probably just trying to ensure they are all dotted neatly.

I didn't find anything that definititively said it would be mandatory to hear direct testimony from every single person who came in contact with all evidence all the way up the chain, but didn't see anything that precluded it either (so maybe it will be necessary, as otherwise, what's the point of a trail...).

I did notice this bit-

Although relevant, evidence (/testimony) may be excluded if its probative value is substantially outweighed by the danger of unfair prejudice, confusion of the issues, or misleading the jury, or by considerations of undue delay, waste of time, or needless presentation of cumulative evidence​

Do we have any actual lawyers reading WS (other than of course the defense team) who can help interpret?

FYI, one of Kurtz's folks, Seth Blum (or Bloom) actually had websleuths up at lunch.

 

[otto]

FYI, one of Kurtz's folks, Seth Blum (or Bloom) actually had websleuths up at lunch.

LOL! Seriously? They must be curious about feedback ... like a glimpse into what the jury might be thinking.

 

[ncsu95]

FYI, one of Kurtz's folks, Seth Blum (or Bloom) actually had websleuths up at lunch.

:wave:


Hi Seth.

 

[Albert]

I'd say ANY computer searching for Fielding Dr area, from before Nancy's body being found, even if it's a month before, would look highly hinky.

Hasn't the defense already presented a possible cover up for computer searches of Fielding Dr? I thought I heard mention that the Coopers were looking at Toll Brothers homes?

http://www.tollbrothers.com/homesearch/servlet/HomeSearch?app=community_description&comm_num=5886

 

[otto]

Hasn't the defense already presented a possible cover up for computer searches of Fielding Dr? I thought I heard mention that the Coopers were looking at Toll Brothers homes?

http://www.tollbrothers.com/homesearch/servlet/HomeSearch?app=community_description&comm_num=5886

The fact that they were discussing divorce, selling their home and that the neighborhood wasn't exactly doing anything for their marriage, it wouldn't be completely irregular for them to look at moving and trying to fix their marriage. Alternatively, even if the divorce was on, Brad might have been looking at moving. That's a $500k neighborhood. Where they were living looks less expensive ... it that true?

 

[Albert]

I doubt very seriously they find any search results that will amount to anything. Heck, all the browsers now include private browsing options that don't keep a record of anything on the computer. You think he wasn't smart enough to know computer searches would be checked?

http://www.zdnet.co.uk/news/securit...ls-still-leave-data-trail-40089770/?s_cid=166

 

[BrownRice]

The fact that they were discussing divorce, selling their home and that the neighborhood wasn't exactly doing anything for their marriage, it wouldn't be completely irregular for them to look at moving and trying to fix their marriage. Alternatively, even if the divorce was on, Brad might have been looking at moving. That's a $500k neighborhood. Where they were living looks less expensive ... it that true?

That's true. I have known couples on the brink of divorce buy a new house (usually nicer) to try and "fix" their marriage - thinking new scenery (apparently) will help. Just like having another kid. It never works.

Unless a map showing Fielding Dr. is on his computer from that night (give/take a few days), I'd say it's completely irrelevant.

 

[BrownRice]

How do we know she didn't wear it the evening of 7/11?

Another thought is she may have worn them to bed. They are comfortable.

First, the sports bra would have been too big for Nancy's little sundress. Second, July is pretty warm in NC; I can't imagine a sports bra would be more comfortable than a smaller bra - or no bra.

 

[BrownRice]

Here's a picture of the smirk...or at least part of it. Hard to capture it in a still photo, but there it is.

As his wife's body and the surrounding area is being described...Brad is passing notes in class.

Yeah, he really needs to fake some sympathy if he doesn't feel it. Regardless of his guilt, one would think he would be looking pretty solemn during that testimony and the pics. Just look down and dab eyes. How hard could it be? He looked down when Carey testified.

 

[jmflu]

New thread: State v Bradley Cooper 3/23/11
Found Deceased State v Bradley Cooper - 3/23/11 - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[otto]

Yeah, he really needs to fake some sympathy if he doesn't feel it. Regardless of his guilt, one would think he would be looking pretty solemn during that testimony and the pics. Just look down and dab eyes. How hard could it be? He looked down when Carey testified.

Maybe it's in his nature not to show emotion.

What would we expect then?

Avoidance, joking ... I don't know ... but what if?

 

[jmflu]

Maybe it's in his nature not to show emotion.

What would we expect then?

Avoidance, joking ... I don't know ... but what if?

He doesn't seem to have as problem with showing anger. That's an emotion.

 

[SleuthyGal]

FYI, one of Kurtz's folks, Seth Blum (or Bloom) actually had websleuths up at lunch.

Seth Blum is his partner in his law firm. (he was in court?)

 

[Cheyenne130]

And her body was found Monday.

Her body was found late Monday, not identified until Tuesday and I believe it was 2 a.m. on Wednesday when he was escorted from the house. It strikes me as odd that in that period so much time was spent in her room covering her bed with stuff. My thought is that he was looking for something.