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Wasn't sure where to put this... lol KZ tweeted:
'Making a Murderer' Brain Fingerprinting Expert Offers Ken Kratz Free Session: 'Put Your Brain Where Your Mouth Is' We are waiting for Mr. Kratz, the investigators, Bobby, Scott Tadych or Ryan Hillegas to jump at the opportunity. #MakingAMurderer2
with a link to:
'Making a Murderer' brain fingerprinting expert offers Ken Kratz free session: "Put your brain where your mouth is"
(quote)Why would they ? It appears that it shows a guilty man as innocent and would probably get tossed from any court proceeding.
Wasn't sure where to put this... lol KZ tweeted:
'Making a Murderer' Brain Fingerprinting Expert Offers Ken Kratz Free Session: 'Put Your Brain Where Your Mouth Is' We are waiting for Mr. Kratz, the investigators, Bobby, Scott Tadych or Ryan Hillegas to jump at the opportunity. #MakingAMurderer2
with a link to:
'Making a Murderer' brain fingerprinting expert offers Ken Kratz free session: "Put your brain where your mouth is"
Oh well if anyone is qualified to determine the merit of this technology, it would be world renown neurologist Ken Kratz.One of the largest critics of Farwell’s technology is former prosecutor Ken Kratz.
Our lab planned and executed a study in which subjects pretended to steal one of ten items from a box. Later, the items were repeatedly presented to the subject by name, one at a time, on a display screen, and we found that the items the subjects pretended to steal (the probes), but not the other, irrelevant items, evoked P300 in 9 of 10 cases.
It should be evident that the ability of P300 to signal the involuntary recognition of meaningful information suggests that the wave could be used to signal "guilty knowledge" ideally known only to a guilty perpetrator and to police.
Source:This report states that “Officials representing CIA, DOD, Secret Service, and FBI do not foresee using the Brain Fingerprinting technique for their operations. . . . CIA officials concluded that Brain Fingerprinting had limited application to CIA’s operations. . . . Overall, DOD officials indicated that Brain Fingerprinting has limited applicability to DOD’s operations. . . . According to FBI officials, the developer had not presented sufficient information to demonstrate the validity or the underlying scientific basis of his assertions
One should, however, conclude with the hope that the baby will not be thrown out with the bathwater: just because one person is attempting to commercialize brain-based deception-detection methods prior to completion of needed peer-reviewed research (with independent replication) does not imply that the several serious scientists who are now seriously pursuing this line of investigation should abandon their efforts. On the contrary, brain activity surely forms a substrate for deception which patient investigation may elucidate. It appears that detecting deception will continue to be of interest to various agencies and institutions. If it is to be done, it may as well be done well.
The Concealed Information Test (CIT) has been used in the laboratory as well as in field applications to detect concealed crime related memories. The presentation of crime relevant details to guilty suspects has been shown to elicit enhanced N200 and P300 amplitudes of the event-related brain potentials (ERPs) as well as greater skin conductance responses (SCRs) as compared to neutral test items.
I think the brain fingerprinting stuff is interesting, but i'm sure KZ's whole PCR doesn't solely rely on it, and she has much more evidence than that to make her case for an exoneration.
I like that KZ is challenging certain people to take the test though, and wonder if there will be any takers?
Or will they decline?
So why do LE still use polygraphs? I agree they are not infallible, but can be a useful tool depending on the person they are used on IMO.What did SA have to lose by the taking the test ? If he did not pass, KZ does include the results and does not even bring it up. No different than the a lie detector test. And how reliable is a test that is taken 10+ years after the actual murder ? I'll bet none of you can lay out what you did on 10/31/05 and if SA is indeed innocent, he would not be able to remember either as it was "just another day".
And what benefit would this have for any of her other "suspects" if they already know they are innocent ? You'd have to be a fool to subject yourself to a test like this.
One reason why LE uses polygraphs is that an examiner can ask a suspect questions with or without reading them a Miranda warning and anything they say can be used against them in court. JMOSo why do LE still use polygraphs? I agree they are not infallible, but can be a useful tool depending on the person they are used on IMO.
They can be admissable in court at times a Judge will allow it. And the brain fingerprinting can be as well.
On top of that they can lie about the results. It is a thing that adds pressure to a suspect. If they believe they failed, even if they are innocent, it might make them more willing to cut a deal or try to "talk their way out" which literally never works and only makes things worse.One reason why LE uses polygraphs is that an examiner can ask a suspect questions with or without reading them a Miranda warning and anything they say can be used against them in court. JMO
He would look guilty. It IS no different from a lie detector test in that way. Except WAY more is known about lie detectors and how awful they are and people STILL use them as evidence that someone is guilty. Fail a polygraph and people go " Yeah, sure that dude might have been in another country during the murder but HE FAILED THE POLYGRAPH". Looking guilty to your lawyer isn't a good thing.What did SA have to lose by the taking the test ? ... No different than the a lie detector test.
I cannot lay out what he did if he is guilty either. Not while backing it up with evidence.I'll bet none of you can lay out what you did on 10/31/05 and if SA is indeed innocent, he would not be able to remember either as it was "just another day".
People who are innocent take polygraphs. Same reasons there.And what benefit would this have for any of her other "suspects" if they already know they are innocent ? You'd have to be a fool to subject yourself to a test like this.
BBM, A polygraph is voluntary and LE can't force a person to take one.One reason why LE uses polygraphs is that an examiner can ask a suspect questions with or without reading them a Miranda warning and anything they say can be used against them in court. JMO
Yes there is much more than the BF to prove her case.The Brain fingerprinting has been a head scratcher since Zellners original PCR. I believe she is using it for a purpose. It certainly isn't a key component of her case.
I think she will do just fine with everything else she has:
multiple brady violations
multiple incidents of prosecutorial misconduct
multiple instances of ineffective assistance of counsel
multiple incidents of impeached testimony by key prosecution witnesses
I think she will be just fine with or without the brain fingerprinting.