golfmom said:
VERY long analysis of TeamAmberAlert. Basically says it is a sham organization working outside of the Amber Alert network for financial gain.
http://www.perverted-justice.com/opinions/
Which breaks us to Team"Amber"Alert.net itself. The entire concept of TeamAmberAlert.net has already been done by an actual professional organization.
My apologies for snipping your post, but I noticed the link to perverted-justice.com you gave and it is obvious that you have not taken the time to dig a little bit to find out if perverted-justice.com is credible as a source or not: Here is some information you may not have realized (I posted this elsewhere also, but will copy and paste what I posted so you do not have to go searching for the thread). My apologies for this being long, but it is information which has been verified by RELIABLE sources, including lawyers and has been reported to the FBI, who is currently investigating:
Information uncovered, and subsequently turned over to the Federal Bureau of Investigations (FBI) and to other law enforcement agencies by
http://www.corrupted-justice.com (an civil rights/anti-vigilante website, who has been investigating perverted-justice.com for over a year), shows that the owner of perverted-justice.com (Xavier Von Erck) has not only corrupted the morals of several minors at his site, but that he has exploited at least one minor.
Satine, a "PeeJ" contributor, who uses the line "Mrs. Von Erck", was only 16 years old when Xavier and the (at that time) co-owner Frank Fencepost was having her have hardcore sexual chats with men in their 20's and 30's, and even possibly having her watch these men masturbate on webcam in order to post it on the front page of perverted-justice.com. She was a 16 year old child when she did her first "bust". The Federal satutes state that a person is a minor until the legal age of 18. Having Satine do that would, by Federal standards, be considered the exploitation of a minor, if I am interpreting the law correctly. Satine's birthdate is: July 16, 1985 and her first "bust" was on January 1, 2002 (it was saved as an HTML file and turned over to authorities).
Further, there is information collected from the perverted-justice.com forums which indicates there are many more minors (Erika, from Canada, was 15 when she became online friends with Xavier Von Erck (owner of perverted-justice.com) and 16 when she started to help out at PeeJ). Crowgirl09 is currently a 14 year old who contacts dangerous predators for perverted-justice and harasses them. Geris was 13 and involved in a "sex" thread on the PeeJ forums in which they were discussing the taste of semen. There are many more minors involved on the PeeJ forums.
It is believed that by having hardcore sex chats, and photos of the "busts" masturbating on webcam (which are also posted at perverted-justice, in some of the main chats) and knowing minors are there reading this, this could be legally considered corruption of the morals of minors.
Further, evidence has come out, and has been turned over to the above mentioned authorities that proves that Xavier Von Erck himself stole someone's identity and contacted their server host (it was a server that hosts a website called
www.corrupted-justice.com, which is an civil rights/anti-vigilante website which questions PJs tactics) claiming that he was this other person, so he could get them to reset the passwords for the
www.corrupted-justice.com website.
On top of that, server logs indicate that Xavier Von Erck and those from perverted-justice.com were responsible for three successful hackings of the corrupted-justice.com website.
The chats these alleged perverts have are illegal and I do not condone nor support them. I think each one of them should be turned over to law enforcement and if found guilty in a court of law, be sentenced according to the laws. Each one of them-- not one here and there, but all of them. Those who prey on or exploit minors should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. Even when they exploit a 16 year old who uses the online name Satine.
I feel those preying on minors online needs to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law, but as you will see in the following two links, they do more harm than good to prosecutions:
http://www2.townonline.com/sharon/o...rticleid=152900
http://www.boston.com/news/local/ar...cused_official/
http://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=260587&page=1
here is a list of some of the things they have been able to provide provable information about perverted justice and they have turned the information over to Federal authorities and to lawyers working on lawsuits against "PeeJ":
1. that the owner of perverted-justice.com has possibly exploited at least one minor (Satine, at age 16 (she is now an adult) was made to go into chat rooms and have hardcore sex chats with men in their late 20s, 30s and possibly even older, in order for the owner of perverted-justice.com to post them on his website.)
2. that the owner of perverted-justice.com has allowed social security and DMV records to be posted on the perverted-justice forums, including the DMV records of people NOT associated with someone they have busted.
3. that the law violation of stalking occurs and is bragged about on the PJ forums. (several busts have had Followup Forum participants stalk their house, taking photos of their house, vehicles, and taking note of who is in the neighborhoods)
4. that the law violation of threats against lives, and against livlihoods are posted on the PJ forums. (one such death threat was recorded on an answering machine tape and has been turned over to authorities).
5. that the owner of perverted-justice HIMSELF stole the identity of the owner of corrupted-justice.com to unlawfully gain access to their servers to get access to their hidden forums and private messages.
6. that on three other occasions, those from perverted-justice.com have hacked into their forum systems, and stolen their databases and stolen their private information.
7. That an elderly relatives of a "bust" have been harassed.
8. That members of "PJ" have harassed neighbors and friends and relatives of "busts".
They have plenty of other proof (such as the fact that they themselves get harassed relentlessly for speaking out against perverted-justice.com with harassing phone calls, harassing instant messenger messages and harassing emails, and so does everyone else who speaks out against perverted-justice.com. Others who were defamed or harassed by those at perverted-justice.com include TeamAmberAlert's site owners (Xavier has posted photos of the owner's house on his site), the well known activist Julie Posey (they called her "money seeking *advertiser censored*"), a civil rights attorney from California who was working on a lawsuit against PJ (they spread lies claiming that attorney is a member of Nambla), and anyone else who speaks out against them.
You should check out their site at
http://www.corrupted-justice.com and you will see the truth about perverted-justice.com and they don't just tell you to believe it, they show you actual proof of it, and provide links to where they found the proof on the PJ forums making it easy to verify.
Just look at both sides of the issue before you decide that perverted-justice.com is so great, because if your neighbor is ever busted, you too will become a target of harassment.
One last thing before I sign off on this message:
Take a long hard look at these photos. This was an EX-WIFE of a "bust" who they targeted because they could not find information on that bust himself. This harassment of her has gone on for a full year now, and she had to move to a new town to avoid the threats and harassment. Her small children had to be sent to an "undisclosed location" due to death threats against her and her children because of her ex-husband being "busted" by PJ. They threatened her and her children because they could not get to the bust himself. But here is photos they got of her off of webcam as they told her her life was going to be destroyed:
http://id_this.yafro.com/photo/124941
This is an innocent woman, who had her life destroyed because of PJ-- lets hope you never know someone busted by them, because you too just may have your information posted in their forums.
Newest Updated Information:
http://www.pcworld.idg.com.au/index...789;fp;2;fpid;1
"Man arrested for '01 Airforce hacks
Paul Roberts, IDG News Service
12/04/2005 09:12:15
A popular Venezuelan hacker known as "RaFa" was arrested April 2 and charged with hacking into U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) servers almost four years ago. " *Click link for full article*
But then this:
http://www.securityfocus.com/news/10868
Which discusses the hack attacks against the Air Force and also NASA (I believe it was Seth Pack who did that) this is in the last couple of paragraphs of the news article:
"Pack cooperated with investigators, but intends to help out Nuñez. Along with Perverted-Justice, a group that attempts to aid child-*advertiser censored* investigations, Pack drafted a letter calling others to help. "
So perverted-justice.com is calling for people to support a hacker who is facing jail time for hacking, which is a federal crime.
Is this really who you want protecting your children?
I say let those in law enforcement handle it so REAL convictions can be made, and keep those who harm children off of the streets.
Thank you for taking the time to read everything I have presented.
Everything in this message is verifiable, and those at
http://www.corrupted-justice.com will be more than happy to pass the verifable information directly to the lawyers and law enforcement who request it (I think they also will provide this information to media upon request too).
Now, those who support "PeeJ" will call me a pedo, a pedo-enabler, and accuse me of being this person or that person, just for speaking out (they have done this against those at corrupted-justice.com, TeamAmberAlert, Julie Posey, and many, many more people who have spoken out against "PeeJ" but all information is verifiable and those at corrupted-justice.com are more than willing to pass this information on to those in Law Enforcement, lawyers for verification.
Now, I do not know the full scope of TeamAmberAlert, but what I do know, is that perverted-justice.com should not be thowing accusations their way, when they themselves have not just visciously attacked TeamAmberAlert, but EVERYONE who has publicly spoken out against them. And I am not talking about just criticizing them. Those at
http://www.corrupted-justice.com who have spoken out publicly have received many harassing phone calls, threats of those from PeeJ harassing their jobs and co-workers, bosses, the colleges they attend, their families, and have had those from PeeJ steal their identity to post things online to make the public think those at corrupted-justice.com are perverts, and we can not forget posting a list of on members children who are minors, and a list of the neighbors.. And one must also not forget death threats that were posted about them, and threats against those they love. All for speaking out.
So you may want to dig a little bit before you post claiming perverted-justice.com is credible, because they are not. They DID help bring one missing girl back home, and as for their few convictions (out of almost 1000 "busts" they have aproximately 8 convictions, less than 1% conviction rate) they helped in-- all are either parole violations, pleads of guilty or because the alleged predator had child *advertiser censored* on their system-- not once has perverted-justice.com's tactics, chat logs, or anything been brought into a courtroom.
I am against pedophiles, against predators, but am equally against vigilantes terrorists who destroy lives for the thrill of it.
Thank you for reading this entire post, and I ask that you check into this to see the truth-- it is all verifiable and I will not tell you that you have to believe me-- check it out for yourselves, and THEN decide for yourself. Do not take anyone's word for it.
