If they think this is you being insulting, I hope they don't ever stray away from this board :innocent:
HAHAHAHAHA you guys didn't seriously delete that did you?
While looking at another case, I almost wonder if the WM3 case was a copycat killer to the 1955 murder case of 3 boys also found naked (minus being tied); John Schuessler, 13, his brother, Anton, 11, and a friend, Robert Peterson, 14.
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No they could. The state accepted the alford plea because they knew they'd loose badlyIt's just another diversion.
Supporters can't address the evidence against the convicts in any honest manner, so they try and direct the discussion away from them.
It failed in the courtroom, and it still fails today.
This from the man who ignores that Jessie's confessions were a load of unadulterated horseshit. Jessie repeatedly described injruies that never happened, a location that is inconsistent and a weapon that didn't match. Even in a state that scorned putting kids in special ed classes Jessie was put in one, and the iq test that featured manipulation he consistently scored low for years. The department was a corrupt good ol boys network and would have no qualms manipulating his fears to con him into thinking his lawyers couldn't help.Maybe, but Echols would never admit that...he'd want everyone to think his murders were totally original.
The ASSC has already ruled on this:
http://courts.state.ar.us/opinions/2005a/20050120/cr94-928.html
[SIZE=+1]At the outset, it should be noted that the basis for Echols's claim - i.e., that the jury considered improper and extraneous information in its consideration of his guilt - does not fall within any of the four categories of errors for which error coram nobis constitutesappropriate relief. Although Echols maintains that his claims regarding jury-deliberation irregularities and impermissible jury bias should fall within the ambit of error coram nobis, this court has specifically declined to extend the writ to remedy a case involving allegedly misleading responses by a juror during voir dire. See Davis v. State, 325 Ark. 96, 925 S.W.2d 768 (1996). [/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]It has been more than ten years since Echols's conviction. This fact clearly demonstrates that Echols did not exercise due diligence in bringing his claims to light - especially in view of the fact that the point on which he relies (the jury's alleged consideration of Misskelley's confession) was known to the court, the prosecutor, and to Echols's defense team at the time of trial. In his memorandum brief, he points out that, during trial, the trial court denied his motion for mistrial when one of the police witnesses inadvertently mentioned Misskelley's statement. At that time, the court stated, "I suggest . . . that there isn't a soul up on that jury or in this courtroom that doesn't know Mr. Misskelley gave a statement." Thus, Echols should have been aware from the time of his trial and conviction of the possibility that the jury might have been aware of and considered this extraneous information.3 [/SIZE]
[SIZE=+1]For these two reasons - coram nobis is not applicable to address and correct the errors that allegedly occurred here, and Echols failed to exercise due diligence in raisingthese claims - we decline to reinvest the trial court with jurisdiction to consider Echols's petition for writ of error coram nobis.4 [/SIZE]
I agree about Jessie's confession. I feel the conviction, no matter even if it was the right perps or not, eased the minds of the residents that the murder(s) that could commit this terrible crime were no longer out on the streets (even if it was only in their minds). I think putting all their focus on the three teens hindered the investigation since they stopped looking at others early on and thus lost potential evidence, witnesses, etc.This from the man who ignores that Jessie's confessions were a load of unadulterated horseshit. Jessie repeatedly described injruies that never happened, a location that is inconsistent and a weapon that didn't match. Even in a state that scorned putting kids in special ed classes Jessie was put in one, and the iq test that featured manipulation he consistently scored low for years. The department was a corrupt good ol boys network and would have no qualms manipulating his fears to con him into thinking his lawyers couldn't help.
At this point guilters aren't honoring the victims. They're *advertiser censored* on their graves.
While looking at another case, I almost wonder if the WM3 case was a copycat killer to the 1955 murder case of 3 boys also found naked (minus being tied); John Schuessler, 13, his brother, Anton, 11, and a friend, Robert Peterson, 14.
Ive been looking into the 1955 Chicago murder of three boys, the details are eerie put up against this case. Here a few things that ring bells.
Three boys, John Schuessler 13, his Brother Anton Jr. 11, and their friend Robert Peterson 13.
Quotes from http://www.prairieghosts.com/spmurders.html
Two days later, the boys naked and bound bodies were discovered in a shallow ditch about 100 feet east of the Des Plaines River. A salesman, who had stopped to eat his lunch at the Robinson Woods Indian Burial Grounds spotted them and called the police.
Bobby Peterson had been struck repeatedly and had been strangled with a rope or a necktie. The killer had used adhesive tape to cover the eyes of all three victims. They had then been thrown from a vehicle. Their clothing was never discovered.
Police officers combed the area, conducting door-to-door searches and neighborhood interrogations. Search teams combed Robinsons Woods, looking for clues or items of clothing. The killer (or killers) had gone to great length to get rid of any signs of fingerprints or traces of evidence. By this time, various city and suburban police departments had descended on the scene, running into each other and further hampering the search for clues. There was little or no cooperation between the separate agencies and if anything had been discovered, it would have most likely been lost in the confusion.
39 years later in 1995 a self-confessed gay-paedophile Kenneth Hansen was convicted.
In a retrial in 2002, Hansen was convicted for a second time.
2004 the conviction was upheld. (Kenneth Hansen died 2007).
Hansen claimed his innocence until death.
After the arrest of Hansen in 1994, Joyce Saxon and her daughter claimed it was their ex-husband/Father Jack Reiling (died 1980) who carried out the murders. Joyce Saxon divorced Jack Reiling in 1957, after he had confesssed to the murders. She stated he was a violent man. This link goes into their story.
http://www.xlibrispublishing.co.uk/..._Book-to-Screen/The_House_That_Jack_Built.pdf
Book:
Shattered Sense of Innocence: The 1955 Murders of Three Chicago Children (Elmer H. Johnson and Carol Holmes Johnson Series in Criminology)