Tracy60

[Tricia]

Guys,

I am very wary of this story.

Please post a link, a legitimate link to a newspaper or law enforcement agency that talks about this.

I know pedo rings do exist. However, hysteria around accusing people of being in a pedo ring happens too.

This is all too vague for me but I'll wait and see if someone can find something else other than the one link.

 

[Tricia]

Let me clarify something.

Since no names are mentioned we can discuss the
"Tracy 60" no problem.

But please keep in mind, unless something more solid is brought to our attention, this is only something posted on the Internet by an Internet group that we don't know a lot about.

It is very easy to jump on this bandwagon. I would be careful though before I would assume something like the Tracy 60 is true.

 

[tiredofthis]

Great idea. These people are very dangerous, and while not RSOs, I think we should be on the lookout for anyone who works with children, etc. Why they haven't been arrested is beyond me. There is NO reason to have any contact with child *advertiser censored*, ever! I know LE tries to infiltrate the rings to catch the big fish and usually it ends as a world-wide bust, but I am just not comfortable knowing there are people identified by LE as pedophiles (since they are trafficking in child *advertiser censored*) who are just sitting pretty in their homes, interacting with our children on the street, possibly teaching? practicing medicine? preaching? and we have no idea about it. It's scary.

People tend to trust people who work in the childcare field. Just last week there was a couple in my state who were arrested for molesting and filming children at the day care they ran out of their home. Some of their victims were only a few months old.

 

[panthera]

Let me clarify something.

Since no names are mentioned we can discuss the
"Tracy 60" no problem.

But please keep in mind, unless something more solid is brought to our attention, this is only something posted on the Internet by an Internet group that we don't know a lot about.

It is very easy to jump on this bandwagon. I would be careful though before I would assume something like the Tracy 60 is true.

I'm going to post this here too so I don't have to try to locate it again. I just put it as a reply to you in the Theories thread also.


Apr-06-2009 11:38
Child *advertiser censored* Traffickers Cited in Missing Child Search

Salem-News.com
In a precedent that could have a major impact nationwide, California police say they are looking at known child *advertiser censored* traffickers in a missing child case.

Missing poster for Sandra Cantu​

(TRACY, Calif.) - Police in Tracy, California, a city of 80,000 just east of San Francisco, are searching for an 8 year-old child, Sandra Cantu, who disappeared March 27th.
Now, according to the Tracy Press, investigators in the case say they are looking at 60 individuals in the Tracy area who have been identified trafficking in child *advertiser censored*, along with 78 "registered" sex offenders.
It is believed to be the first time in the U.S. that police have publicly acknowledged the huge population of known but not arrested child *advertiser censored* suspects in a missing child case.
While visiting the homes of "registered" sex offenders is common in missing children cases, the public is mostly unaware that U.S. law enforcement has also identified hundreds of thousands of criminals trafficking in child *advertiser censored*.
Fewer than 2% of these suspects are ever investigated, as police and lawmakers focus on other priorities.
Most law enforcement agencies are reluctant to acknowledge the existence of these suspects, because doing so would put huge numbers of unsolved crimes on their boards... crimes they are not now investigating.
Pursuing the 60 known Tracy child *advertiser censored* traffickers would, without question, lead to the rescue of many local children who are suffering at the hands of sexual predators, many within their own homes.
If authorities follow through on their plan, they will seek 60 subpoenas and then locate and interview these individuals. Tracy could then expect a wave of successful child *advertiser censored* and child abuse investigations and prosecutions.

more at:

http://www.salem-news.com/articles/april062009/child_porn_connect_4-6-09.php

 

[Hermione]

Can anyone tell me why this convicted child molester he needs a video camera mounted in his living room window, pointed at the street and bus stop??

As a mother, my skin is crawling. I wish you SUCCESS in getting LE to do something about this creep- the law should be enforced!!! That is sick, a video camera. omg!!!!! And near a school bus stop, and schools- this is so not right.

People talk about how sad it is that kids can't play outside today like they could "when we were young"- now I am only in my early 30s but I could run free around my neighborhood as a kid and would go off on my bike all day long, sometimes alone, sometimes with a group- the rule was I had to stay in my own neighborhood, there were certain people's houses I was not allowed to visit, etc. But it was safer. now I wonder though, looking back, if it just was not as widely reported, so long as kids were not killed, if there were things going on. It seemed like all my friends' neighborhoods had "the weird creepy man"....there was one in mine too, he lived about 6 houses down. My parents had a pool, and I was about 10 or 11 and was out there around the pool while my mom was cooking dinner and I saw this man had walked down our driveway and had been standing there staring at me over the fence! I called my mom and she came out, and he was there complaining about some kids, saying people were egging his house....but he was very very very creepy. I did not know anything about it and certainly was not involved but the older kids in their teens probably WERE egging his house, he was creepy. Maybe we should trust kids more...when they feel like someone in their neighborhood is weird.

 

[Tricia]

Please understand I am very picky when it comes to stories, especially something has horrible as a pedo ring.

The two sources are small and not really recognized as in-depth news reporting.

A pedo ring in Tracy? This should be on CNN, CBS, 60 mintues. THIS IS HUGE.

But it is not.

That's what makes me stop and wonder about this story.

Yes, it could be true, and if it is shame on the media for not getting the story out there for all of us.

 

[panthera]

Please understand I am very picky when it comes to stories, especially something has horrible as a pedo ring.

The two sources are small and not really recognized as in-depth news reporting.

A pedo ring in Tracy? This should be on CNN, CBS, 60 mintues. THIS IS HUGE.

But it is not.

That's what makes me stop and wonder about this story.

Yes, it could be true, and if it is shame on the media for not getting the story out there for all of us.

I agree with you Tricia. The only link I could find is what I posted, and it was way into the Google search.

 

[Tricia]

I agree with you Tricia. The only link I could find is what I posted, and it was way into the Google search.

If it turns out this story is true I will go ballistic. Not that that helps anything Makes me crazy to think that if true, it is being ignored.

The flip side is again, have to be careful before we assume things are true.

Again, no problem discussing the Tracy60 since no names are being used.

 

[panthera]

If it turns out this story is true I will go ballistic. Not that that helps anything Makes me crazy to think that if true, it is being ignored.

The flip side is again, have to be careful before we assume things are true.

Again, no problem discussing the Tracy60 since no names are being used.

It seems to me I remember something about this mentioned in the media before Sandra's remains were found, but now most of the articles deal with the discovery and last night's arrest. And since it's still my birthday I don't feel like looking for it right now. :crazy:

 

[passionflower]

I wonder if you have to go thru somekind of initiation to be accepted? ... just throwing that out there!

I had that crazy thought also.

 

[passionflower]

How big of a city is Tracy?
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=75986&highlight=kyle+slave?
Wasn't Kyle, the boy in bondage
used as a slave from Tracy also?
Here's a link to refresh our minds.

 

[secretsquirrel]

Tricia,
There's a lot of links about the Tracy 60 to be found on the Protect website here

http://www.protect.org/Where-are-the-Tracy-60.html

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I find it odd people are going on and on about 60 people in Tracy (population approximately 81,550) who trade child *advertiser censored* as if there are not 60 people right in their own communities who are probably doing the same thing.

We have so many arrested here for child *advertiser censored* anymore they don't even make the news unless it is an enormous cache or includes someone in a profession of authority. Sad, but it is true.

LE can't go after them for many reasons, but funding appears to be the biggest one. Resources don't exist to combat the billion dollar industry and their connections across the world.

I do not believe the 60 are related to Sandra's case. Melissa acted alone according to LE and I trust they have the evidence to prove their case against her. They have done a meticulous job of collecting evidence and methodically going in many directions to narrow it down to one.

 

[MomofBoys]

I agree with SS. (May I call you SS? Heh.)

I live in a charming, quaint, idyllic town on Florida's west coast. Friendly people, lots of families, incredibly low crime-rate, lots of community activities, and we have more SOs than I ever thought possible. One within a half-mile of my very "safe" neighborhood.

They're everywhere. The thing is, why these people are sickos, I don't worry about them as much because they ARE registered. It's the absconders I fear most. I'll always keep a watchful eye regardless, and I'm certainly not saying RSOs won't offend and re-offend, but knowing what we know now, I find it so beyond frightening that it wasn't a RSO, but a sunday school teacher.

I mean, who would have ever guessed? I immediately jumped to the RSOs, too, and it turned out that evil was hanging out in the very plainest of sight. A sunday school teacher talking to the media, no less. Amazing.

 

[scandi]

Tricia,
There's a lot of links about the Tracy 60 to be found on the Protect website here

http://www.protect.org/Where-are-the-Tracy-60.html

LOL, I was just going to post to Tricia telling her about you SeSq. Sometime on the right thread I wish you would expound on what you have told us. Right now I am thinking these 60 ISP addresses belong to people who do not pay to receive these photos so it is not a money making operation. It kind of goes against the American spirit of entrapaneurship {sp} which is what America is founded on. Why let them have it free? I must be missing something. Nothing new


ETA: Drats, our dear squirrel has left ;{ He's hard to corner. LOL

 

[scandi]

I agree with SS. (May I call you SS? Heh.)

I live in a charming, quaint, idyllic town on Florida's west coast. Friendly people, lots of families, incredibly low crime-rate, lots of community activities, and we have more SOs than I ever thought possible. One within a half-mile of my very "safe" neighborhood.

They're everywhere. The thing is, why these people are sickos, I don't worry about them as much because they ARE registered. It's the absconders I fear most. I'll always keep a watchful eye regardless, and I'm certainly not saying RSOs won't offend and re-offend, but knowing what we know now, I find it so beyond frightening that it wasn't a RSO, but a sunday school teacher.

I mean, who would have ever guessed? I immediately jumped to the RSOs, too, and it turned out that evil was hanging out in the very plainest of sight. A sunday school teacher talking to the media, no less. Amazing.

Like Kimberly Guilfoil said tonight, it could change with the drop of a hat as to more arrests.

And I guess she was technically a sunday school teacher, but it was at her grandfather's church and she was a substitute ss teacher. I read that at Blink. xox

 

[Fairy1]

I find it odd people are going on and on about 60 people in Tracy (population approximately 81,550) who trade child *advertiser censored* as if there are not 60 people right in their own communities who are probably doing the same thing.

We have so many arrested here for child *advertiser censored* anymore they don't even make the news unless it is an enormous cache or includes someone in a profession of authority. Sad, but it is true.

LE can't go after them for many reasons, but funding appears to be the biggest one. Resources don't exist to combat the billion dollar industry and their connections across the world.

I do not believe the 60 are related to Sandra's case. Melissa acted alone according to LE and I trust they have the evidence to prove their case against her. They have done a meticulous job of collecting evidence and methodically going in many directions to narrow it down to one.

With all due respect SS, while I'm not sure yet the Tracy 60 are involved here, I don't necessarily believe this woman was acting alone and I do tend to believe there will be additional arrests in this case. Though I do believe the TPD has done a meticulous job with this investigation and I commend them.

A woman - a mother - acting alone in this type of case is nearly unheard of. I feel there may be more to this story. Particularly if the previous drugging story is true. I suppose time will tell.....

 

[fran]

Let me clarify something.

Since no names are mentioned we can discuss the
"Tracy 60" no problem.

But please keep in mind, unless something more solid is brought to our attention, this is only something posted on the Internet by an Internet group that we don't know a lot about.

It is very easy to jump on this bandwagon. I would be careful though before I would assume something like the Tracy 60 is true.

Yesterday A.M. when I posted the link to the article about the "Tracy 60" problem, I thought, at that time, there may be some connection to Sandra's murder and this alleged group. But after reading further about the accused in Sandra's case, I no longer believe that.

I personally, at this time, think Sandra's murder is an isolated incident, peculiar in that the accused is a woman. In these types of cases, it's usually a man that committed the crime. The officer giving the presser yesterday morning even said that the FBI wants to send people to study this case. Melissa appears to be an anomaly.

I do agree with you that its most likely ok to discuss this Tracy 60 with no names involved, but like you've indicated, there's been no accusations or mentioning names as to who this group involves. This was just one of the directions the investigation was going until Melissa placed herself on LE's radar.

It'll be interesting to see IF Tracy LE continues to persue this group and IF the public sees any type of arrests or accusations in the future. Hopefully, IF there's further action on this, they won't make the same types of errors they made in the previous case. In the action years ago, it turned into a 'witch hunt' and the personal, and apparently personal vendetta, of one over-zealous police officer. I think we've come a long way since then, even as to questioning the victims.

Like another poster stated, (if 1/3 of the arrests of distributors of child *advertiser censored* involves a child victim), there's possibly 20 young victims just in Tracy that COULD be rescued if Tracy LE persues this matter.

JMHO
fran

 

[Thelma]

I thought of Kyle as soon as I heard about how the girl was found; the woman whose home he stayed in "Kelly Laine Lau" had a myspace profile that reveiled she was a girl scout troup leader. I really doubt it is related in any way, but it really makes you wonder about Tracy California.

But then you are right about looking to one's own communities-A year ago three men in my city were arrested for selling and torturing girls as young as thirteen; and I have heard very little on the news about it. I wonder why the press treats child prostitution as such a non-story, and too often calls it "teen prostitution" to remove the sting of what is really happening.

 

[wandering]

I believe the FBI tracks offenders who are involved in this sort of thing. The internet tracking is very important, since that is where they peddle their smut. We had a severe case in my area, pedos that were connected to a huge ring internationally. I read about these huge rings being busted at least once a year, so I think they're trying.