I think the fishing trip was intended on the Monday. I can't imagine he'd go fishing in the early hours of Sunday morning in the dark when there was mist too.Who might he have met fishing, I wonder? Did he have a boat? Thinking outloud...
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I think the fishing trip was intended on the Monday. I can't imagine he'd go fishing in the early hours of Sunday morning in the dark when there was mist too.Who might he have met fishing, I wonder? Did he have a boat? Thinking outloud...
And LE would have interviewed the witness, too, after he contacted Caleb's family.From transcript of video interview
30:23
“I know there's been a lot of conversation about this guy and his credibility when I tell you that this guy was very Vivid with what he saw and I can't elaborate on that but there was other people under the bridge and he was just as Vivid with the description of them as he was of Caleb”
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I wonder if the “vivid” descriptions of these “other people” under the overpass helped investigators identify and locate any of these individuals? Were they Homeless persons? Students? Was Caleb interacting with them, or just passing by them as he walked? Were he or they all waiting to cross the street?
The transcript says he “can’t elaborate on” what the eyewitness saw. Very curious what he relayed he saw. I imagine the police told the father not to make public that information?
MOO
Or their tip line is being flooded with possible sightings because the bridge sighting made people think he must be somewhere.Clearly, LE are taking seriously the possibility of sightings of Caleb, even setting up a separate emergency phone line (separate from the "tip" hotline). The family and LE are not ruling out anything at this point, it appears.
I agree. And then how would subpoenas for digital information tie into a crime involving people under an underpass? (When I think people under an underpass I assume we are dealing with a homeless population.)I am leaning away with the sighting being Celeb. It Does not make sense that CH takes a small white poodle on a 20 minute walk or drives between 3am-4am. Hangs out with people under an underpass, walks /drives back to the villages. Returns the dog. Goes back out? . Are there any videos in the common areas that would have seen him coming and going from the villages? MOO
I've only seen one pic of him with a relaxed face, the one in the body of this CourtTV article, and that's not widely circulated. The rest of the photos show him lit up with a full smile, which surely wouldn't be what he looks like now, if he's still alive. I wonder if they have any photos of him looking pre-occupied, or sad.I dunno, Caleb is facially quite distinct looking. I feel like it's a face I would remember.
Sadly I don't think it was him much as the witness wishes it was.
A foggy night is the perfect condition for a predator, especially a person that drives for a living, or has a job where they are on-call 24-7. Someone who knows the vicinity well, maybe has keys to multiple buildings. It would be helpful to know what the geo-fencing has provided. Who was in the area that night, and did they have a credible reason for being there? (TOL)He was planning to go fishing with friends after his classes on Monday morning. According to Caleb's father, they all owned kayaks. Caleb had his own kayak, as well.
From transcript of video interview
30:23
“I know there's been a lot of conversation about this guy and his credibility when I tell you that this guy was very Vivid with what he saw and I can't elaborate on that but there was other people under the bridge and he was just as Vivid with the description of them as he was of Caleb”
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I wonder if the “vivid” descriptions of these “other people” under the overpass helped investigators identify and locate any of these individuals? Were they Homeless persons? Students? Was Caleb interacting with them, or just passing by them as he walked? Were he or they all waiting to cross the street?
The transcript says he “can’t elaborate on” what the eyewitness saw. Very curious what he relayed he saw. I imagine the police told the father not to make public that information?
MOO
Possible, but as the dog was returned to the correct apartment I would consider this unlikely.Just speculation. Maybe the fog had something to do with this? He literally walks into the wrong apartment, because he couldn't see or lost his sense of direction.. Something bad happened. If not this, anything could have happened. Hit by a car. Fell into something, and can't be found. Just trying to guess of what could have happened to him.
I too am leaning away from the sighting being valid. Did this witness just come forward? I mean, the doorbell/ring camera footage with him and the other two guys (roommate and friend) collecting the dog near the apartment came out over a month ago. Lots of vivid details about what he was wearing, what the dog looks like, etc. are in that doorbell/ring cam video. And....I agree with you...why would he go that far at that time of night/morning walking a little poodle? And, it isn't even his poodle.I am leaning away with the sighting being Celeb. It Does not make sense that CH takes a small white poodle on a 20 minute walk or drives between 3am-4am. Hangs out with people under an underpass, walks /drives back to the villages. Returns the dog. Goes back out? . Are there any videos in the common areas that would have seen him coming and going from the villages? MOO
I too am leaning away from the sighting being valid. Did this witness just come forward? I mean, the doorbell/ring camera footage with him and the other two guys (roommate and friend) collecting the dog near the apartment came out over a month ago. Lots of vivid details about what he was wearing, what the dog looks like, etc. are in that doorbell/ring cam video. And....I agree with you...why would he go that far at that time of night/morning walking a little poodle? And, it isn't even his poodle.
What I am a little confused about in my own logic (lol) is I don't want to believe someone would do that. And, I am still curious what the secret information is that his father is not to reveal.
I can’t find where I read this, so I may be mistaken, but I thought the witness reported it earlier on the tip line, but never received a call back. So, after a time he found a way to reach the family more directly. Anyone else recall what my mind is telling me?I too am leaning away from the sighting being valid. Did this witness just come forward? I mean, the doorbell/ring camera footage with him and the other two guys (roommate and friend) collecting the dog near the apartment came out over a month ago. Lots of vivid details about what he was wearing, what the dog looks like, etc. are in that doorbell/ring cam video. And....I agree with you...why would he go that far at that time of night/morning walking a little poodle? And, it isn't even his poodle.
What I am a little confused about in my own logic (lol) is I don't want to believe someone would do that. And, I am still curious what the secret information is that his father is not to reveal.
Yes, I also remember that this witness had attempted to provide this information earlier and wasn’t successful in getting a response. I believe Tony mentioned that in an interview.I can’t find where I read this, so I may be mistaken, but I thought the witness reported it earlier on the tip line, but never received a call back. So, after a time he found a way to reach the family more directly. Anyone else recall what my mind is telling me?
Also, the dog belonged to all of the roommates. They decided they were sharing ownership of it.
I agree the timeline was hard enough to reconcile without further extending the time Caleb was awake, and not getting some shuteye.. I mean, how little of sleep does he get by on? He already had a day of fishing on Sunday the 3rd, and then on Monday the 4th he had class and was going to fish again afterwards…
Ah, to be young, I guess! I’d be so tired!
JMO
I doubt he would've walked into the wrong apartment building, even in fog. He wouldn't needed a key or keycard to get access, surely?Just speculation. Maybe the fog had something to do with this? He literally walks into the wrong apartment, because he couldn't see or lost his sense of direction.. Something bad happened. If not this, anything could of happened. Hit by a car. Fell into something, and can't be found. Just trying to guess of what could of happened to him.
If you’re serious, you go fishing when the fish are biting. That can be in the dark or inclement weather.I think the fishing trip was intended on the Monday. I can't imagine he'd go fishing in the early hours of Sunday morning in the dark when there was mist too.
True, but there's serious, and there's being safeIf you’re serious, you go fishing when the fish are biting. That can be in the dark or inclement weather.