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I don't understand why a 4Faith plate would be on the rear of any vehicle. Wasn't it a generic plate that would have been intended for anyone to be able to purchase? I don't think it was a plate that one person would have. And, wouldn't a rear plate require a particular one that would display a number that could be traced to one owner?

I guess it isn't available anymore. It is not shown as an option at the Texas DMV site though they do have Calvary Hill plates.

IMAGE OF ONE STATE UNDER GOD TAG
http://www.txdmv.gov/motorists/license-plates/specialty-license-plates/item/296-calvaryhill?ml=1

SPECIALTY PLATES
http://www.txdmv.gov/motorists/license-plates/specialty-license-plates

Edit to add: never mind. Now I see the plates are issued as "under God" plates, not 4FAiTH. So... maybe one owner could end up with this plate. This is VERY WEIRD! One person ends up with the same plate that is used as the example on the Texas Values website that announces that the plates are now available? WHAT?

Unless I have totally lost my mind and misunderstood who this or these plates were made available to... I think this 4FAITH plate on the car in the video is a fake!!

“UNDER GOD” LICENSE PLATE NOW AVAILABLE - IMAGE OF 4FAITH PLATE HERE
http://txvalues.org/2012/04/02/under-god-license-plate-now-avaliable-2/

“UNDER GOD” LICENSE PLATE PREVAILS IN TEXAS (UPDATED)
http://txvalues.org/2011/12/08/under-god-license-plate-prevails-in-texas/

current list of souvenir plates:
http://www.txdmv.gov/component/docm...-souvenir-license-plate-order-form?Itemid=232
 
TSA2016 said:
Kilo is VB's dog(black and white chihuahua) who was killed BY KS dog. HEnce the bloody shirt
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Oh! I had forgotten about that!!
The dog head I see on the dashboard definitely is not a chihuahua. Looks more like a st Bernard.
 
MotherOcean said:
I don't understand why a 4Faith plate would be on the rear of any vehicle. Wasn't it a generic plate that would have been intended for anyone to be able to purchase? I don't think it was a plate that one person would have. And, wouldn't a rear plate require a particular one that would display a number that could be traced to one owner?

I guess it isn't available anymore. It is not shown as an option at the Texas DMV site though they do have Calvary Hill plates.

http://www.txdmv.gov/motorists/license-plates/specialty-license-plates/item/296-calvaryhill?ml=1

http://www.txdmv.gov/motorists/license-plates/specialty-license-plates

Edit to add: never mind. Now I see the plates are issued as "under God" plates, not 4FAiTH. So... maybe one owner could end up with this plate. This is VERY WEIRD! One person ends up with the same plate that is used as the example on the Texas Values website that announces that the plates are now available? WHAT?

Unless I have totally lost my mind and misunderstood who this or these plates were made available to... I think this 4FAITH plate on the car in the video is a fake!!

http://txvalues.org/2012/04/02/under-god-license-plate-now-avaliable-2/

http://txvalues.org/2011/12/08/under-god-license-plate-prevails-in-texas/
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When I first saw the 4FAITH plate on my google search, I thought it was a sample or prototype. As you've/we've determined, the One State Under God plate can be personalized.

Coincidentally (?), prior to the issuance of this particular design (Under God), there was a Texas issued license plate "4FAITH" which received a parking ticket in Plano in 2010. I find it hard to believe that someone with a legit plate that distinctive wouldn't attempt to conceal it.

So yes, I and a couple of others have theorized that the plate was fake.

Not sure I know how to properly link, but ND2014 provided the info about the ticket in post 934 copied below:

"Quote Originally Posted by Elle*Bee View Post
Time for me to quit looking at photos. I very rarely see what everyone else does. But that rear plate looks to me like it says 4FAITH. Clearly I lack the visual acuity.

Actually, a google search led me to this image. A coincidence, I'm sure. http://txvalues.org/2012/04/02/under...w-avaliable-2/

[start ND2014 quote]
I was just going to post the same thing. I have no idea what the video actually shows, but someone driving a car with a Texas license plate 4FAITH received a ticket in Plano on 8/31/10, and never paid it. http://plano.gov/DocumentCenter/View/4831"
 
MotherOcean said:
I don't understand why a 4Faith plate would be on the rear of any vehicle. Wasn't it a generic plate that would have been intended for anyone to be able to purchase? I don't think it was a plate that one person would have. And, wouldn't a rear plate require a particular one that would display a number that could be traced to one owner?

I guess it isn't available anymore. It is not shown as an option at the Texas DMV site though they do have Calvary Hill plates.

IMAGE OF ONE STATE UNDER GOD TAG
http://www.txdmv.gov/motorists/license-plates/specialty-license-plates/item/296-calvaryhill?ml=1

SPECIALTY PLATES
http://www.txdmv.gov/motorists/license-plates/specialty-license-plates

Edit to add: never mind. Now I see the plates are issued as "under God" plates, not 4FAiTH. So... maybe one owner could end up with this plate. This is VERY WEIRD! One person ends up with the same plate that is used as the example on the Texas Values website that announces that the plates are now available? WHAT?

Unless I have totally lost my mind and misunderstood who this or these plates were made available to... I think this 4FAITH plate on the car in the video is a fake!!

“UNDER GOD” LICENSE PLATE NOW AVAILABLE - IMAGE OF 4FAITH PLATE HERE
http://txvalues.org/2012/04/02/under-god-license-plate-now-avaliable-2/

“UNDER GOD” LICENSE PLATE PREVAILS IN TEXAS (UPDATED)
http://txvalues.org/2011/12/08/under-god-license-plate-prevails-in-texas/

current list of souvenir plates:
http://www.txdmv.gov/component/docm...-souvenir-license-plate-order-form?Itemid=232
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Or, someone is being creative with photoshop.
 
I think it is a fake! If LE has tracked this person down, I feel sure that they would publicly clear this person because they know it is only a matter of time before the general public becomes aware of that tag! That is a memorable tag. And what's the odds anyways that the Altima driver would have a tag that is available for anybody to print right off of the internet?

http://txvalues.org/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/CalvaryHill-One-State-Under-God.jpg
 
No it's not said:
Can you please post the original capture you processed to get those " tags"..? If you have so "clear" pictures of the tags, you may have a "clear" picture of the bumper sticker as well?

Thank you.

-Nin
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Nin from yours I saw looked like cursive ... ss and Me. Thing is about bumper stickers now days you can make your own have them made. Which if that one is will be even more valuable evidence if found. * chances of someone else having is small.
 
zigster58 said:
They lived in a town outside of Austin. His company Texas Rock Hounds was located there. If they have moved, not sure. I think it says Cuero,Tx. I'm not local but I do remember seeing this back in April.


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They moved from Cuero when he was busted for embezzlement. I remember a FB post where they were parking the RV at a park outside of Austin before Christmas, maybe it was scheduled for late Oct. I will try to find that again.
 
MotherOcean said:
I don't understand why a 4Faith plate would be on the rear of any vehicle. Wasn't it a generic plate that would have been intended for anyone to be able to purchase? I don't think it was a plate that one person would have. And, wouldn't a rear plate require a particular one that would display a number that could be traced to one owner?

I guess it isn't available anymore. It is not shown as an option at the Texas DMV site though they do have Calvary Hill plates.

IMAGE OF ONE STATE UNDER GOD TAG
http://www.txdmv.gov/motorists/license-plates/specialty-license-plates/item/296-calvaryhill?ml=1

SPECIALTY PLATES
http://www.txdmv.gov/motorists/license-plates/specialty-license-plates

Edit to add: never mind. Now I see the plates are issued as "under God" plates, not 4FAiTH. So... maybe one owner could end up with this plate. This is VERY WEIRD! One person ends up with the same plate that is used as the example on the Texas Values website that announces that the plates are now available? WHAT?

Unless I have totally lost my mind and misunderstood who this or these plates were made available to... I think this 4FAITH plate on the car in the video is a fake!!

“UNDER GOD” LICENSE PLATE NOW AVAILABLE - IMAGE OF 4FAITH PLATE HERE
http://txvalues.org/2012/04/02/under-god-license-plate-now-avaliable-2/

“UNDER GOD” LICENSE PLATE PREVAILS IN TEXAS (UPDATED)
http://txvalues.org/2011/12/08/under-god-license-plate-prevails-in-texas/

current list of souvenir plates:
http://www.txdmv.gov/component/docm...-souvenir-license-plate-order-form?Itemid=232
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Texas requires a front & back plate, matching. The two plates, grainy as they are, don't appear the same. It would not make sense for vanity or specialty plates to be on a vehicle �� nvolved in a planned crime. But, with this case, it sure does make sense that SP would have put fake plates on.

They would not have driven far that way though, I'm sure. MOO
 
Jsoeur said:
Texas requires a front & back plate, matching. The two plates, grainy as they are, don't appear the same. It would not make sense for vanity or specialty plates to be on a vehicle �� nvolved in a planned crime. But, with this case, it sure does make sense that SP would have put fake plates on.

They would not have driven far that way though, I'm sure. MOO
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Agreed
 
Just went and saw Patriot Days (based on the Boston Marathon bombing).

1. Incredible. It will move you (I know some of the characters are created. Lighten up.)

2. You can see a little bit of the resources and capabilities of the FBI (it shows a bit of the interaction between some of the agencies – something we haven’t explored or been privy to). What the feds are working with dwarfs the local resources. They showed some of the FBI’svideo analytical equipment. LE knows more than we think about the MB case. And are strategic in releasing it, if they had access to that level of equipment.

3. The key to catching the two perps was investigativespeed, getting enough resources (personnel, expertise, equipment) to the scene. And of course, this is a way bigger case (global implications), so it’s apples and oranges.

4. Interestingly, the specific methodology of identifying (and ultimately capturing) the terrorists was to find the perp(s)out of place or acting suspiciously near the crime scene, then using CCTV of all the nearby businesses and cell phones, and working their way back to where there would be a clear enough picture of them. Wahlberg (star of the show) had enough knowledge of where the surveillance camera’s in his district were, where they were pointed, and the natural current of the area (which way would people most likely come from), he eventually directed his techies to a good shot of them. And then enlisted the public’s help.

5. I don’t know if it’s too late, but it seemsthat methodology seems like it might work. They immediately collected hundreds of videos (not knowing which one’sthey’d need). In a murder case, people generally are willing to assist and hand over their CCTV video and not need search warrants (I would think). Midlo at 4 a.m. has 1/100 the people of Boston around noon, that potentially simplifies the task.

6. We need to give our LE the best equipment,weapons, and resources possible. That will determine success or failure. And we can’t afford to have them fail.

7. The courage and bravery were spotlighted. I know some of us have grown impatient with the time frame of the investigation but I received a new perspective of what they are sometimes faced with (life and death situations). Wow. Hats off.
 
Jsoeur said:
Texas requires a front & back plate, matching. The two plates, grainy as they are, don't appear the same. It would not make sense for vanity or specialty plates to be on a vehicle �� nvolved in a planned crime. But, with this case, it sure does make sense that SP would have put fake plates on.

They would not have driven far that way though, I'm sure. MOO
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Police are rarely in a position to see both the front and rear plates, much less check to see if they match. I've been pulled over several times this past year and have yet to have a police officer bother to go to the front of my vehicle to check to see if it matched my rear plate. Given the many things they already look for (expired registration, weapons, drugs, etc) I'm doubtful this ranks very high on the to-do list.
 
WannaBDetective said:
Just went and saw Patriot Days (based on the Boston Marathon bombing).

1. Incredible. It will move you (I know some of the characters are created. Lighten up.)

2. You can see a little bit of the resources and capabilities of the FBI (it shows a bit of the interaction between some of the agencies – something we haven’t explored or been privy to). What the feds are working with dwarfs the local resources. They showed some of the FBI’svideo analytical equipment. LE knows more than we think about the MB case. And are strategic in releasing it, if they had access to that level of equipment.

3. The key to catching the two perps was investigativespeed, getting enough resources (personnel, expertise, equipment) to the scene. And of course, this is a way bigger case (global implications), so it’s apples and oranges.

4. Interestingly, the specific methodology of identifying (and ultimately capturing) the terrorists was to find the perp(s)out of place or acting suspiciously near the crime scene, then using CCTV of all the nearby businesses and cell phones, and working their way back to where there would be a clear enough picture of them. Wahlberg (star of the show) had enough knowledge of where the surveillance camera’s in his district were, where they were pointed, and the natural current of the area (which way would people most likely come from), he eventually directed his techies to a good shot of them. And then enlisted the public’s help.

5. I don’t know if it’s too late, but it seemsthat methodology seems like it might work. They immediately collected hundreds of videos (not knowing which one’sthey’d need). In a murder case, people generally are willing to assist and hand over their CCTV video and not need search warrants (I would think). Midlo at 4 a.m. has 1/100 the people of Boston around noon, that potentially simplifies the task.

6. We need to give our LE the best equipment,weapons, and resources possible. That will determine success or failure. And we can’t afford to have them fail.

7. The courage and bravery were spotlighted. I know some of us have grown impatient with the time frame of the investigation but I received a new perspective of what they are sometimes faced with (life and death situations). Wow. Hats off.
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Great post!
 
PatTheRat said:
Police are rarely in a position to see both the front and rear plates, much less check to see if they match. I've been pulled over several times this past year and have yet to have a police officer bother to go to the front of my vehicle to check to see if it matched my rear plate. Given the many things they already look for (expired registration, weapons, drugs, etc) I'm doubtful this ranks very high on the to-do list.
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I don't have front plates and haven't in TX in years...my car doesn't even have a place for them. Either I'm a lawbreaker, or it's not required anymore. I've seen people have vanity front plates.


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