Besides Jacintha Saldanha and her family, I feel sorry for Kate. If I was pregnant and the nurse who was in my room killed herself, I would be horrified and feel it deeply.
the nurse who killed herself was
not kate's nurse...
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...callers_n_2257231.html?utm_hp_ref=mostpopular
Thanks. I read another post right after I posted and was made aware of that. It's bizarre.
Tragic for everyone but the prank was like most pranks, innocent in nature.
It is the first thing you learn in a workplace in Australia if you work with people's personal details. This wouldn't have happened in the first place if she'd been trained properly by that monument to "discretion".
They also claim not to have disciplined her in any way, so they didn't take the offence very seriously at all at the time. It would have cost her her job in Australia, no question.
This reminds me of the time that the Duchess was photographed sunbaking topless. These people have absolute top level security surrounding them at all times, and this sort of thing happens????
There's a lot of blame to spread and as far as I can see the DJ's are actually only responsible for being DJs.
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Snipped by me for space.
I;m kind of curious as to the kind of training a nurse would receive to deal with a situation when someone calls on the phone. Here in the US I don't think ANY info can be given over the phone to a third party. Is it like that in Australia too? What do they tell nurses in training? Thanks!
"She answered their call and, believing the 2Day FM presenters were members of the Royal Family, put them through to another nurse who described Kate's condition in detail."
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/kate-middleton-prank-call-receptionist-1478123
But the one who spoke was on a private line, and her expectations might have been that not just anyone could get through to that private line.
"The hospital offers its VIP patients private lines that are connected directly to their rooms but the Australian DJs were able to reach the Duchess’s personal nurse via the switchboard in an apparent breach of procedure."
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-found-dead-in-suspected-suicide-8393289.html
Thanks. That makes sense.
That's true, but this whole tragedy occurred as a result of Kate's pregnancy. I do not envy her having to start out a pregnancy with the death of a nurse - over a prank call about her.
Yeah. That would freak me out. And again, I go back to how these celebs are hounded. This is a young, newly married woman who is experiencing her first pregnancy. And it has to be within a fishbowl. Most people in that same situation aren't treated like zoo animals the way she is.
And I think if it wasn't for this general attitude that celeb's privacy is up for grabs, this never would have happened. A lady is dead because of the hyper focus on Kate. I can't imagine how that would feel, especially with all the hormones bouncing around. And being uncharacteristically superstitious (I;m otherwise extremely logical), I would take it as an omen that something bad was going to happen or that my family life would turn out badly. I hope she doesn't.
Maybe the methods are different, but I have been reading a lot of nonfiction about the late 19th century and the early 20th century, and the media, which only ran to newspapers at the time, was almost identical to now. They chased after actresses and other celebrities, peeped in windows, climbed trees, etc. They were consumed with all of the details and scandals, etc. or creating them if none could be found. People have not changed as much as we would like to think.
I agree. However, there was time from the 30's through the 60's, when the media did tend to act with much more decency and a sense of decorum. The downside was the studios owned the stars.
But, can you imagine the things that have been done to this royal family being done "back in the day" to the Kennedys or to Grace Kelly and company?
I don;t think people have changed but standards have reverted to the toilet. I;d like to think we had evolved a bit since then. I guess not.
Ah was just about to post a link, so sorry i didn't get to it awhile ago.
here was my link:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-DJs-hoax-Kate-Middleton-hospital-call.html
Thank you so much!
from :
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-found-dead-in-suspected-suicide-8393289.html
"Ms Greig, seeking to impersonate the Queen, asked to be put through to "my grand-
daughter", prompting Ms Saldanha to reply:
"Oh yes, just hold on ma'am.""
BBM- She answered the call, only said one line, then patched her through to Kate's nurse. She isn't even the one who gave out the personal information, though imo she obviously felt intense guilt about it. Imho she must have had some issues prior to this, and it must have just put her over. Technically what the announcers did was a crime in that they impersonated a members of the royal family. imo these announcers will suffer enough without charges. I can't imagine, they must feel sick. I certainly do not think they should be charged in this woman's death. I don't think a person would think this as a reasonable outcome of the prank. I don't think it was classy or appropriate for them to have pulled the prank either- I just think they should not be held criminally responsible for this poor womans' death, as many people are calling for.
IMO of course.
Yes. I agree with this too! They shouldn't be charged. I have no doubt they are horrified at this point. They made a mistake and went too far. They never should have published the whole call. And everyone needs to respect this young woman's privacy. I;d hate to see another Diana situation.
Clearly, King Edwards VII's Hospital failed to properly train their (starstruck?) nurses to maintain patient confidentiality no matter who they think is asking. Why try to be "helpful" if the "help" is a direct violation of a patient's right to privacy?
Listening to the prank call, I can't help but wonder how ANYONE could take that childish call serious. From the royal corgis barking to the "Queen" giggling and reminding the nurse that she is the Queen and needs a lift to the hospital, and to asking Charles why he didn't feed the bloody corgis, how could they even consider it a serious call?
Many of us have had really horrific days at work, however, we do not go home and kill ourselves unless there's already serious underlying emotional disturbances. My heart goes out to the both nurses and their families, who unfortunately learned first hand that media is another word for vultures. They will say and do anything to get a story which is always expected of reporters. Some rummage through trash barrels and many more place prank calls.
One thing that struck me as ODD is that the hospital would assign an educated nurse to reception duties? You don't need a higher nurse's education to answer and direct phone calls within a workplace. Without a doubt, King Edward's hospital needs to accept responsibility for failing to train their nurses in maintaining patient confidentiality AND for hiring and training their receptionist-staff to maintain their duties by the switchboard. Had the hospital done so, the prank call would have been terminated without incident. With an army of reporters gathered outside the hospital, longing for any tit-bit of information, the hospital would have known or should have known that attempts would be made to obtain tit-bits of information from INSIDE the hospital.
The Australian DJs are not to blame for the British woman's demise.
I;m thinking that the nurse was very, very nervous. (The one who talked). I bet the other one was as well (the one who died). That's why they screwed up and broke protocol, I think.
