UK - the late Jimmy Savile and the underage sex charges now confronting the BBC

"New claims under police review...detectives say more people have come forward with allegations."
http://news.sky.com/story/1254297/max-clifford-new-claims-under-police-review

"Detectives review new allegations."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27265696

"Max Clifford's victim - I'll never forget."
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27239292

"Hamiltons toast end of Max Clifford's reign.."
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/may/03/christine-hamilton-max-clifford-jailed-toast-champagne

"Max Clifford; the rise and fall.."
http://www.theguardian.com/media/2014/may/02/max-clifford-sex-politics-tabloids-simon-hattenstone
 
In case anyone's confused at the different offender names appearing in this thread, they have all been investigated under British police's 'Operation Yewtree' - an investigation into historical sex crimes committed by minor and not-so-minor celebrities.

http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-27201568

So, basically:

"Secondly, it's vital to give confidence to other victims that a conviction can be achieved so many years after an event without DNA or other types of scientific corroboratory evidence."

In other words they think it is ok to convict without corroboration.

It is an absolute certainty that that sort of attitude is going to send innocent people to jail, because you can never be sure that an allegation is true or not if the only evidence is the allegation itself, particularly if it is allegation of something that happened a long time ago.

If an allegation is made against a celebrity or someone well known in the public eye, it is almost a foregone conclusion that a bunch of other people will come forward and make similar allegations as well in order to get money, attention or sympathy.
 
Yewtree has obviously become a complete farce.

Detective Chief Superintendent Keith Niven, who is leading Operation Yewtree, has said: “The Metropolitan Police take all allegations of sexual abuse very seriously. We fully investigate every case and once sufficient evidence is obtained investigators work with CPS lawyers and a decision whether to charge is made.”

This is absolute nonsense -- look at the cases of Freddy Starr and in particular Rolf Harris at the moment. I've discussed my opinion on the Harris case in the dedicated thread linked here , but I think the way that case has been handled shows how this entire operation is travelling a very dangerous path.

Here's what I mean: one woman in the Rolf Harris case claims he molested her when she was "7 or 8" at a community event in Leigh Park, Hampshire.

Yewtree and local investigators exerted a tremendous amount of effort in the search for ONE shred of evidence that Rolf appeared where and when the accuser said he had. They found NONE. Not a thing.

Not deterred, they expanded the search to several years --either side-- of 1968-9 (which is when the accuser would have been 7 or 8) and found NOTHING.

Not to be deterred, they took the case to trial, and put on the stand two 'witnesses' who said they remembered Rolf appearing in the area along with Diana Dors and Sid James.

Somehow, it escapes the far-reaching tentacles of operation Yewtree that Dors and James appeared in Leigh Park somewhere between 5 years and a decade apart, in completely different locations, neither of which was the same place as that in the accuser's claim. So -- how does the testimony of these people back up the accusation? It doesn't, of course, but that does not stop Yewtree putting them on the stand anyway!

Apparently, the --incredibly-- unsupported testimony of this complainant was somehow considered strong enough to go to trial. Why??

Well, IMO, it's because the accuser's story fit a "pattern" that Yewtree wanted to promote as evidence for Harris's guilt, a somewhat desperate measure taken because the four complainants in his case have extremely shaky stories -- one was paid 60 grand by the media pre-trial, for her (ever-changing) tale of woe, and the one who slept with Rolf until she was --29-- years old had every reason to throw him under a bus, including being replaced by a rival and being refused a large sum of money she asked him for after their affair ended. Which as "coincidence" would have it, is right around the same time she first started declaring that Rolf molested her as a child.

In the case of Freddy Starr, 13 charges were laid - 12 were dismissed due to "lack of evidence" (one has to wonder how far into the negative these charges actually had to go, in order to be declared not worth prosecuting, in light of the Rolf case mentioned above) and ONE case was dismissed because -- get this -- while there was deemed to be "enough" evidence to go to trial, it was "not in the public interest" to pursue it. Excuse me?! How, precisely, is it not in the public's "interest" to see a sexual assault charge *with (supposedly) enough evidence to convict* proceed to court?!

The "throw enough mud and something will stick" approach evidenced here is a disgusting farce. It's no way for historic cases to be approached.

As a victim of "historic" and horrific abuse myself, I am the last person who would ever stand up for rapists and pedos.

But I *WILL* make a stand for justice, where I percieve the judicial process to be compromised, or completely farcical. As it has become, with Operation "YouToo".
 
Abuse on a grand scale: Jimmy Savile raped and sexually assaulted victims aged
5 to 75 at 41 NHS hospitals including Stoke Mandeville - but staff turned a blind eye


⁍ NHS is still vulnerable to abuse by paedophiles like Savile, report reveals
⁍ Paedophile DJ abused 60 patients alone in Stoke Mandeville Hospital
⁍ Among his victims were NHS patients aged between five and 75
⁍ Star allegedly had sex with bodies in Leeds mortuary and took glass eyes
⁍ Nine complaints were made about him but none were 'taken seriously'
⁍ One member of staff 'severely reprimanded' after warning about Savile
⁍ Savile's fundraising and fame meant management saw him as an 'asset'
story at Daily Mail link above
 
So, after all these investigations and arrests, has anything changed?
 
The Independent Police Complaints Commission today said it is to investigate whether officers chose to ignore the claims about Sir Edward, who lived in Salisbury until he died in 2005 aged 89.
The IPCC will also probe claims that an alleged paedophile should have been prosecuted but had the case against him dropped when he threatened to expose Sir Edward.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-Minister-Sir-Edward-Heath.html#ixzz3hm8xKKFv

Based on info from a "retired senior police officer".
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...murder-saying-no-evidence-support-claims.html

Police have dropped a probe into an alleged VIP paedophile ring murder after finding there was no evidence to support the claims.
Officers launched an investigation after a 'witness' made a series of claims, including that a girl had died during a VIP paedophile party at the Dolphin Square apartments in Westminster.
But police have reportedly halted their inquiries amid a lack of evidence to back up the claims of the the man, named only as Darren.

According to a report by James Gillespie of the Sunday Times, detectives have become concerned about his behaviour and referred his son to social services.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...no-evidence-support-claims.html#ixzz3ligRa5dD
 
A former co-worker has a shrine of that sick man? And they talk to it sometimes? Well, it would be interesting to see.
Yep, same here, Creep City Creepies. And yeah, will eventually watch the thing, with a particular interest in this odd woman!
 

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