GUILTY UT - Kent Frandsen for sex abuse, child *advertiser censored*, Salt Lake City, 2010

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I agree, Missizzy - caution needs to be exercised.

Does anyone have info on what particular drug(s) LE was investigating Frandsen for trafficking?
 
Kimberlyd125 said:
O/T I would love to take her. We have great ones down here.
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O/T She's a Cowboy's fan, and tells me I'm nuts for wanting to go live in NOLA.:crazy: You still want her?:D

No mention of what drugs they were looking for, Izzy and Sorrell. I'm still finding it odd the guy just showed the informant child *advertiser censored* out of the blue. If the drug thing was true I'd place my mom's and Kimberly's casino money on it being meth.
 
Unfortunately MissIzzy, I think you have hit the nail on the head with your theory of GHB. It would be a way to subdue the children easily, by being mixed in soda or koolaid and the children wouldn't really be able to have clear memories of what happened.

The fact that these children were 'brought to him' and there was no reports of problems following the visits, it would lead me to believe that whoever brought the children over was involved and not an innocent bystander.

I wonder what the maximum sentance would be for this crime in UT? I hope it is a long one and he is put away for a long time!
 
Filly said:
Toby, Izzy is great at sleuthing out the pedophiles and other criminals.
Yes, in case you ever want to look yourself Toby a google of course helps. You can use 123people and Peoplefinders as tools.

Looks like the guy wrote a cookbook too along with a woman by the same last name. A cookbook for college kids. He also like to be a critic as I saw he gave his opinion of other people's books.

It is scary and sad isn't it? Unfortunately Toby these are only the tip of the iceberg we have here. We need for these babies to be O.K. They are going to need help. Plus I mean he drugged them. He could have killed them drugging them.
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Yes I've been reading alot of both of your posts. I'm in awe the quick work you guys make out of getting these articles on and then digging to find more.

It is scary and sad, thinking of these poor children living that hell. I'm so glad these guys think so highly of themselves that they tape themselves. It leaves a trail for someone somewhere to follow.
 
What the heck was going on in that house?

The previous link says there's several confidential informants and more than one saw some sad, sick things going on. There were boys having sex when one guy was there. Older boys, but boys all the same.

Pedophile himself admitted he liked boys between 12-14. Didn't stop him from attacking little babies though.

He was charged with selling drugs to an undercover officer.

Just goes to show. A lovely neighborhood. Drugs and chaos and the raping of children all going on behind closed doors.




Well, this wasn't the only person selling meth in this neighborhood.

Fight the scourge. Sugar House neighborhood fights back.

http://www.abc4.com/content/about_4...ouse-neighborhood/MzhVbrStVU6arzLlsgQG7w.cspx
 
It happens in the nicest neighborhoods.....trust me, I know.
 
The meth shocks me. I wasn't expecting that. They must have been getting the boys hooked. But I wonder what they were using on the littler guys. Even the older boys seem to be far too young to be street kids. Someone is providing those children.

I trust that LE is looking very closely at the housemate and the other man who shares that same name. The housemate has recently been out of the country but the younger man with the same name as the housemate has been making documentaries around the world concerning traumatized and at-risk children. I'm not sure why, but the organization that man is connected with has a closed website as of this afternoon. I'm really uneasy about the possibility of children in disaster/war zones being re-victimized. I don't think anything upsets me more than that.

FWIW, I can see no social linking between the two men at that address. No comments about their social lives, community involvement, etc. SLC would not be the easiest place to live in a gay relationship, IMO.
 
One of the female co-authors of Frandsen's books titled, "Where's Dad..." and "Where's Mom..." wrote several books back in the 80s about cocaine, angel dust, and the mind/body connection.

Maybe there's a family interest in the subject.
 
http://www.abc4.com/content/about_4...ouse-neighborhood/MzhVbrStVU6arzLlsgQG7w.cspx

The program also offers signs for residents to place in their front yards or on their porches. The signs announce residents are part of a cooperative program monitored by Salt Lake police. Snyder says they give residents a way to send a message:
“We’re not going to take it anymore.”

I'm not so sure that's a safe thing to do. I commend the residents for taking their streets back, but erecting a sign might make them a target of retaliation & violence.

I agree with the drug diaries and residents keeping watch & informing LE, but I think the signs might put the residents at risk.

MOO
 
Why is something seeming off to me (other than children being abused)? The Sugar House neighborhood is well known to be one of THE places to live in Salt Lake City. The housemate of the man arrested must be quite well to do, given his CV and recent work. Why is this not fitting with a typical "meth house" and neighbors who aren't going to take it anymore?

We're missing something.
 
I know this doesn't really matter a whit but it is interesting to note. When one reads "meth house", there's a particular thought that comes to mind. It's usually not on a street with houses appraised and on the market for $375,000-$550,000 and considered one of the best "Old-Home Neighborhoods in the US" by This Old House Magazine.

I wonder if the older housemate taught photography out of the home or had an in-house studio ie. Tarquin Thomas did in San Mateo County for the many boys he abused.

I'll be brave and grit my teeth and throw this out there. Is there any possibility that these two men are partners and have some adopted children? Possibly they have a very young child or have offered to do child care for a friend's young boy.

This is really hard for me as I've long fought for the rights of gays and lesbians to adopt. I'm not going to be happy if I learn that one or both of these men have abused that honor.
 
The phone number given in the whitepages for that address is the same of Frandsen's publishing company. It's listed at two addresses but the phone number is the same at both.

As far as I can tell, the housemate has done the cinematography on a gay-lesbian film and worked (as photographer, cinematographer, or director) on a number of well known children's films and short films. He has worked on a several films where there's two different females who shares a same last name with him. One film site lists one of those females as his sister.

I have a very uneasy feeling about this situation.
 
I don't believe we've seen this:

http://www.abc4.com/content/news/to...-sex-abuse/pvX-bPUbMUu0EDEAMuIDlw.cspx?rss=20

“It's just sad,” said neighbor "CA". “It's sad to know someone in our neighborhood that we care about and means something to us is in jail.”

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"Neighbors said Frandsen was well known in the neighborhood. He'd talk with everyone and anyone and he wasn't shy about his lifestyle.

"The first five times I met him he said ‘you know I’m gay’ after the second time I knew he was definitely gay,” said a neighbor who didn’t want to be identified. “After the fifth time he finally stopped.”

Neighbors recalled seeing young teens coming to Frandsen's home but they didn't consider it a red flag...."

more at link


This tells me that this man must not be the reason some neighbors were worried about meth. This guy sounds as if he was friendly and mothers on the street trusted him. Odd, that no men were interviewed. I'm quite sure the neighbors are feeling badly now that they didn't see red flags.

However, let's look at this through another lens. Let's say that a heterosexual man lived in your neighborhood. Would you not question a stream of 11-14 year old little girls going in and out of the home? Sure, there can always be a legitimate reason. The guy could be a piano teacher, tutor, therapist, or have a number of young nieces. It doesn't hurt to inquire and watch a little more closely, though.
 
It always amazes me how people are judged by neighbors. Dog-walking, yard maintenance, car-upkeep, politeness and dressing neatly get perks.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=12560381

"We were surprised because we see him on a regular basis walking his dog and he's a very calm person and seems very polite," said neighbor "KH"...."


I'm assuming that Frandsen has slightly gone off his rocker, given his confessions followed by the following statement:

"....Frandsen told police he was planning to move to South America after the ordeal was over."
 
Missizzy said:
It always amazes me how people are judged by neighbors. Dog-walking, yard maintenance, car-upkeep, politeness and dressing neatly get perks.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=12560381

"We were surprised because we see him on a regular basis walking his dog and he's a very calm person and seems very polite," said neighbor "KH"...."


I'm assuming that Frandsen has slightly gone off his rocker, given his confessions followed by the following statement:

"....Frandsen told police he was planning to move to South America after the ordeal was over."
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I agree. They are almost saying I'm suprised because "he doesn't look or act like a paedo". Why?, because he has money and was dressed nice. It's almost laughable how uneducated some people are about these issues or maybe they dont want to face up to the fact that child abuse could be happening on their doorstep. Who knows?
 
Because he walks his dog, he is a good guy? Where have these people been the last 10 years? It's hard to believe they could be that naive in this day and age. They need to pull their heads out of the sand and face reality.
 
Missizzy said:
It always amazes me how people are judged by neighbors. Dog-walking, yard maintenance, car-upkeep, politeness and dressing neatly get perks.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=12560381

"We were surprised because we see him on a regular basis walking his dog and he's a very calm person and seems very polite," said neighbor "KH"...."


I'm assuming that Frandsen has slightly gone off his rocker, given his confessions followed by the following statement:

"....Frandsen told police he was planning to move to South America after the ordeal was over."
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Naw, Izzy he's on his rocker and he's on meth. Meth psychosis. He probably seriously thinks once this "ordeal" is over he is moving to South America.

Don't let me start. O.K. please let me start. People need to wake the heck up. So he walked his dog? Big whoop. He said "hello". That's always a big one with neighbors. Big deal he said hello. He's calm and polite? Lady, he rapes babies for crying in a bucket.

Now on to him telling the neighbor five times he was gay. The first time he said it to me I'd aks him if he wanted a medal. Did my new neighbors come up to me and say "I'm heterosexual"? Nope. Again, maybe it was the meth talking.

Meth has plagued the gay community for years now. Pretty much any big city has meetings such as NA that are filled with gay men that have become addicted to meth. Bad enough you're addicted to a drug, but this has led to an enormous resurge of HIV/AIDS. Meth makes you invincable. You're beautiful, fun, and ready to party. You can keep up with the younger gay guys. You can dance all night. I won't name the person who in my city has done a fabulous job of reaching out and sharing his experience with meth. Just for the fact I would never, ever would lump him into this guy's "catagory".

Last but not least we read and post every single day about both men and women who are straight who assault, brutalize and effectively destroy children. I think I could count on one hand cases of gay men or lesbians that have done what this creep did.

Those neighbors who said it is sad someone they know is in jail? Helllllllloooooooooooooooooooo there's little children and pre-teens that are imprisoned because of this guy. Plus they have to worry about disease. I don't have the stats on hand, but the rate is high.
 
I swear these are my neighbors. My husband & I do adult foster care in our home and our neighbors, who have never, in the years we've lived in this 400,000$ house on a street w/ 12 houses, have even introduced themselves and even tried to get us shut down. And living right next door to us is a convicted felon who had to be hog tied and forecably removed cause he was threatening his family w/ a gun. But we are the bad ones. sorry for the personal OT but I'm always amazed at the ignorance.

Yea the first time anyone tells me about their sex preferences even once and just in passing would raise my hinky, for sure.
 
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