WA WA - Cristina Ase, 61, Vancouver, 26 Mar 2024

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AislingGray18 said:
That's not how it works. She may have kept a Dr in Portland area, but Sunnyside is the hospital and medical records clinic, they don't have a clinic or primary care the way the real clinics do, it is a hospital. There a many Kaiser clinics across the PNW, but Sunnyside is the actual hospital.

My point being, unless she had business at the ER or the hospital, she would use a different location for care. One that was much closer to work and home, Clackamas is hell to try to get to when your sick ...it would not make sense .
Yes there are some Dr offices over there but not really primary care, unless it is in another building close to the ER. And again, no one would drive out to Clack if they can avoid it...I mean this is all just my opinion, but it would not make sense. But none of this makes sense...

If she was going to the hospital and not a closer lab, for a mammogram, it makes me think maybe there was not good news? But you are correct, the only other place in Vancouver for the monogram is Salmon Creek and thats even father, so there's more to this than we know, considering most Kaiser things are not done at the actual hospital.
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As a former patient at Kaiser Sunnyside, you can get all of your health needs met there. I had my primary care provider there, a neurologist, I got my mammograms there, etc. There is a full-care health center, an urgent care, an ER, and of course the hospital.
 
julie123 said:
Hello beautiful neighbor! I'll let you in on a little secret, we hired Charlies to manage it ;) (My grampas too old at 93 now).

Cristina - Gets a call on way to work couple times lately to help someone with a ride to somewhere? This trip turned out different? Crumb for thought. It seems to fit a bit, if they were remotely close they would want the car with no remnants of their presence.
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If she had gotten a call on her way to work, LE would have known that, since they had her phone records. It seems like every reasonable explanation would have left behind some kind of digital or paper trail.
 
Hestia's Fire said:
If she had gotten a call on her way to work, LE would have known that, since they had her phone records. It seems like every reasonable explanation would have left behind some kind of digital or paper trail.
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It's possible she could have had a burner phone or social media accounts others didn't know about.
 
julie123 said:
Hello beautiful neighbor! I'll let you in on a little secret, we hired Charlies to manage it ;) (My grampas too old at 93 now).

Cristina - Gets a call on way to work couple times lately to help someone with a ride to somewhere? This trip turned out different? Crumb for thought. It seems to fit a bit, if they were remotely close they would want the car with no remnants of their presence.
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I know lol, we all know. Well us locals that still live up and down 112th and in Cascade Park. We tend to stick close to home for a reason.
 
georgiajean said:
As a former patient at Kaiser Sunnyside, you can get all of your health needs met there. I had my primary care provider there, a neurologist, I got my mammograms there, etc. There is a full-care health center, an urgent care, an ER, and of course the hospital.
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You are right. I am totally dating myself realizing my last surgery was almost 20 years ago and the area is not the same. Thank you friend!
 
grannygates said:
The 2013 RAV4 does have any infotainment unit but it looks like only certain trim levels have navigation. I’m not sure what it means for law enforcement being able to track where the car was for those 24 hours. It may be possible.

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I've had several Toyotas during the past 2 decades, and I think that by 2013 the onboard computer on most models save different kinds of data, including speed, braking, acceleration and locations. I think the onboard computers were designed to save more and more data after the mid-2000s unintended acceleration suits, especially for accident reconstruction.
 
nhmemorymaker said:
It is sad to hear you locals reference these changes to the area there.

WHEN did these camps actually become so large and invasive.
I believe one of you had mentioned that Covid had influenced, but any more you can add to allow us to better understand the environmental changes there is helpful...to me.
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Portland has had areas of camps for a long time but it got worse a few years before Covid, and exceptionally worse right after. It used to feel like it was more focused into designated areas, but in the course of Covid, starting moving kind of all over. (Put a pin in this, important detail for later).

This issue existing in Vancouver in this capacity is a slightly newer thing. We definitely had a few streets and neighborhoods but it felt more isolated and generally Vancouver felt slightly safer.

VERY recently (like last few months) I noticed that a ton of encampments were moved in Portland. Many of the more populated streets were suddenly super clean with no or minimal encampments. And the problem is becoming drastically worse in Vancouver now, especially our downtown. I don’t think that’s totally a coincidence. This isn’t to say there aren’t still scary areas in Portland or encampments, there are a TON. But it’s more condensed again seemingly but with no solutions to solve these issues to be answers to why things are cleaning up).

I can only speculate but my mom used to be a police officer in a different high-homeless area and it was a common thing (allegedly, allegedly, allegedly) that officers would pay homeless folks money to move out of their working county so they didn’t have to deal with them. And while I definitely think some have moved back to designated Portland areas, a vast amount have moved to Vancouver. IMO MOO

I’d also like to add that Portland added drug use leniency laws without any of the resources required to help people while using. So that’s definitely hit us hard. Leaving politics or opinions out of that topic, you can’t pass this without also helping people get more support during that time.

We also had a floundering mental health system BEFORE Covid and Vancouver is only growing and we have less resources than ever currently. (Try to go to the ER for a loved one’s suicide threats and you will wait 7 hours and get told then that the only social worker went home and can’t help you, true story btw).

To top this off, housing and rental costs in Vancouver has risen horribly, especially the past few years (I think a few years ago we were in the top 10 most expensive cities to live in based on average income). A lot of people can’t afford to have homes anymore.

It’s a shame because Portland and Vancouver are so special and we have so many compassionate and idealistic people hoping and actively aiming to help move us forward. But I think with Vancouver specifically it’s a larger city treating itself as the same small place it once was. And Covid hit this really, really hard (as with everywhere I’m sure).
 
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Allobara said:
Portland has had areas of camps for a long time but it got worse a few years before Covid, and exceptionally worse right after. It used to feel like it was more focused into designated areas, but in the course of Covid, starting moving kind of all over. (Put a pin in this, important detail for later).

This issue existing in Vancouver in this capacity is a slightly newer thing. We definitely had a few streets and neighborhoods but it felt more isolated and generally Vancouver felt slightly safer.

VERY recently (like last few months) I noticed that a ton of encampments were moved in Portland. Many of the more populated streets were suddenly super clean with no or minimal encampments. And the problem is becoming drastically worse in Vancouver now, especially our downtown. I don’t think that’s totally a coincidence. This isn’t to say there aren’t still scary areas in Portland or encampments, there are a TON. But it’s more condensed again seemingly but with no solutions to solve these issues to be answers to why things are cleaning up).

I can only speculate but my mom used to be a police officer in a different high-homeless area and it was a common thing (allegedly, allegedly, allegedly) that officers would pay homeless folks money to move out of their working county so they didn’t have to deal with them. And while I definitely think some have moved back to designated Portland areas, a vast amount have moved to Vancouver. IMO MOO

I’d also like to add that Portland added drug use leniency laws without any of the resources required to help people while using. So that’s definitely hit us hard. Leaving politics or opinions out of that topic, you can’t pass this without also helping people get more support during that time.

We also had a floundering mental health system BEFORE Covid and Vancouver is only growing and we have less resources than ever currently. (Try to go to the ER for a loved one’s suicide threats and you will wait 7 hours and get told then that the only social worker went home and can’t help you, true story btw).

To top this off, housing and rental costs in Vancouver has risen horribly, especially the past few years (I think a few years ago we were in the top 10 most expensive cities to live in based on average income). A lot of people can’t afford to have homes anymore.

It’s a shame because Portland and Vancouver are so special and we have so many compassionate and idealistic people hoping and actively aiming to help move us forward. But I think with Vancouver specifically it’s a larger city treating itself as the same small place it once was. And Covid hit this really, really hard (as with everywhere I’m sure).
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Well said, neighbor.

One of the things to remember is, the homeless addicts who are causing issues in Portland and Vancouver, largely, are the same circle of people. They all know each other, they all go back and forth from here to Portland, who ever has a flop pad, a tent, a RV, or, in many cases..and I hate to say this but it is true because the addicts I care about are doing it, they use whoever has a section 8 apartment and turn it into a trap house

They all know each other. It's why I had so many loose connections to the four women who were killed in Portland and one left in Vancouver. (IDL if they are related)

During covid they could not be evicted, I watched my ex create a trap house and he was not evicted until September of this year. He admitted to me recently a lot of things I had suspected. The casino draws a lot of issues as well. Ilani is 100 percent a hot bed for trafficking women and substances.

I have said before, when I look at local cases, I look at their SM, and when we have certain "friends" in common, I know they are a part of that life. They share info and resources. My own ex and his friends prefer Vancouver, but are back and forth almost daily causing issues.
None of this has to do with Cristina, but it was nice to have a like minded convo about our area without it devolving into casting blame and making it political, I really appreciate you for that
 
Allobara said:
Portland has had areas of camps for a long time but it got worse a few years before Covid, and exceptionally worse right after. It used to feel like it was more focused into designated areas, but in the course of Covid, starting moving kind of all over. (Put a pin in this, important detail for later).

This issue existing in Vancouver in this capacity is a slightly newer thing. We definitely had a few streets and neighborhoods but it felt more isolated and generally Vancouver felt slightly safer.

VERY recently (like last few months) I noticed that a ton of encampments were moved in Portland. Many of the more populated streets were suddenly super clean with no or minimal encampments. And the problem is becoming drastically worse in Vancouver now, especially our downtown. I don’t think that’s totally a coincidence. This isn’t to say there aren’t still scary areas in Portland or encampments, there are a TON. But it’s more condensed again seemingly but with no solutions to solve these issues to be answers to why things are cleaning up).

I can only speculate but my mom used to be a police officer in a different high-homeless area and it was a common thing (allegedly, allegedly, allegedly) that officers would pay homeless folks money to move out of their working county so they didn’t have to deal with them. And while I definitely think some have moved back to designated Portland areas, a vast amount have moved to Vancouver. IMO MOO

I’d also like to add that Portland added drug use leniency laws without any of the resources required to help people while using. So that’s definitely hit us hard. Leaving politics or opinions out of that topic, you can’t pass this without also helping people get more support during that time.

We also had a floundering mental health system BEFORE Covid and Vancouver is only growing and we have less resources than ever currently. (Try to go to the ER for a loved one’s suicide threats and you will wait 7 hours and get told then that the only social worker went home and can’t help you, true story btw).

To top this off, housing and rental costs in Vancouver has risen horribly, especially the past few years (I think a few years ago we were in the top 10 most expensive cities to live in based on average income). A lot of people can’t afford to have homes anymore.

It’s a shame because Portland and Vancouver are so special and we have so many compassionate and idealistic people hoping and actively aiming to help move us forward. But I think with Vancouver specifically it’s a larger city treating itself as the same small place it once was. And Covid hit this really, really hard (as with everywhere I’m sure).
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Thank you so much. You locals just add soooo much to let us know more about the environment there.c
 
AislingGray18 said:
Well said, neighbor.

One of the things to remember is, the homeless addicts who are causing issues in Portland and Vancouver, largely, are the same circle of people. They all know each other, they all go back and forth from here to Portland, who ever has a flop pad, a tent, a RV, or, in many cases..and I hate to say this but it is true because the addicts I care about are doing it, they use whoever has a section 8 apartment and turn it into a trap house

They all know each other. It's why I had so many loose connections to the four women who were killed in Portland and one left in Vancouver. (IDL if they are related)

During covid they could not be evicted, I watched my ex create a trap house and he was not evicted until September of this year. He admitted to me recently a lot of things I had suspected. The casino draws a lot of issues as well. Ilani is 100 percent a hot bed for trafficking women and substances.

I have said before, when I look at local cases, I look at their SM, and when we have certain "friends" in common, I know they are a part of that life. They share info and resources. My own ex and his friends prefer Vancouver, but are back and forth almost daily causing issues.
None of this has to do with Cristina, but it was nice to have a like minded convo about our area without it devolving into casting blame and making it political, I really appreciate you for that
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Thank you Aisling. Thank you.
 
nhmemorymaker said:
Thank you so much. You locals just add soooo much to let us know more about the environment there.c
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Of course! Something else I want to add for non locals is that the area is pretty sprawling... Populated but there are tons of more rural and forest areas around that would be hard to find a person. I know in particular that Larch mountain and Washougal have been drop sites for a number of cases and aren’t wildly far from Vancouver. I’ve never personally been to Larch Mountain and can’t speak on what it’s like but Washougal has extremely rural, no service places where properties don’t see other houses, lots of forest and a river that can get going. And these aren’t the only places like that around. I obviously want this story to end happily, but I think with such limited information it’s important to throw into the convo.
 
Considering this is such a distressing disappearance, I would expect more updates from LE and the media. It just seems so quiet. Perhaps LE knows a lot more and just aren't sharing it. It certainly seems her car being returned near her apartment and cleaned must mean someone she knows is either involved in her disappearance, or knows something about what happened and doesn't want to get involved with LE and related scrutiny.

I'm also surprised there isn't more discussion here since she's been missing for several weeks. But it can be difficult to keep a case moving when there isn't much news surrounding it. This is sad to me, that she seems to be forgotten already.

Many thanks to the locals who have provided so much background about Portland, OR, and Vancouver, WA.
 
LookingForClues said:
Considering this is such a distressing disappearance, I would expect more updates from LE and the media. It just seems so quiet. Perhaps LE knows a lot more and just aren't sharing it. It certainly seems her car being returned near her apartment and cleaned must mean someone she knows is either involved in her disappearance, or knows something about what happened and doesn't want to get involved with LE and related scrutiny.

I'm also surprised there isn't more discussion here since she's been missing for several weeks. But it can be difficult to keep a case moving when there isn't much news surrounding it. This is sad to me, that she seems to be forgotten already.

Many thanks to the locals who have provided so much background about Portland, OR, and Vancouver, WA.
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Yes, the cleaning of the vehicle and returning it to close to her home is highly suspect but makes it less likely to me that someone from the homeless encampment did something to her. Not impossible, just less likely. I'm wondering if the powdery substance residue from cleaning might have been from a melamine sponge/Mr. Clean magic eraser. I sometimes use these on the plastic parts in my car when I clean it. The plastic trim pieces are textured so tiny little bits of that sponge come off and often can leave some residue and it gets worse the more you use the sponge.
 
LookingForClues said:
It certainly seems her car being returned near her apartment and cleaned must mean someone she knows is either involved in her disappearance, or knows something about what happened and doesn't want to get involved with LE and related scrutiny.
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I agree, it is such a very important detail.

Trying to reason it through

- no one has suggested that CA herself brought it back, and then went somewhere.
- So I can't think of any good reason someone else would say to themselves - "I'll move it close to her home, that makes sense."
-It proves whoever last interacted with CA took her vehicle key, knew which was her vehicle, and the last place she'd parked. And then they used it for something that had to be cleaned.
-It therefore implies everything known about CA's disappearance was a ploy
- Howevet, the car itself was not, IMO, a ploy. It seems to me more like a loose end that couldn't be avoided. And the hope was, no one would notice it sitting there.

JMO
 
Cedars said:
I agree, it is such a very important detail.

Trying to reason it through

- no one has suggested that CA herself brought it back, and then went somewhere.
- So I can't think of any good reason someone else would say to themselves - "I'll move it close to her home, that makes sense."
-It proves whoever last interacted with CA took her vehicle key, knew which was her vehicle, and the last place she'd parked. And then they used it for something that had to be cleaned.
-It therefore implies everything known about CA's disappearance was a ploy
- Howevet, the car itself was not, IMO, a ploy. It seems to me more like a loose end that couldn't be avoided. And the hope was, no one would notice it sitting there.

JMO
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The car coming back twists this whole thing. But they did not put it back in the complex, it was left on the street outside. I am hoping on 5th street because their will better chance of video
 
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