WA - Lindsey Baum, 10, McCleary, 26 June 2009 - #2

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could it be there dad...jim?

HI TakeNote, The age says it could be from looking at photos. There was a photo of Steve sitting next to his lawyer in court.

I am trying to see the significance to this case. Say if J is S's father, would it be that vicious craziness, to flip out, runs in the family?

It is still very amazing this is the only property in McCleary that has been zero'ed in on so many times for searching. There is something that keeps bringing them back there. Could it be because so many kids played there so often? Maybe they suspect he really likes kids? And now they are waiting for the LOCAL people to call them with notice of anything unusual? Hmmmmm

And then they can get a search warrant?
 
See? Someone needs to disable my Google, dangit!

I am thinking/hoping I am way, way off base with this. Still, I would like to know if they are related. If for no other reason than to wonder if JM's property was searched 6X simply because of that relationship, and for no other reason?

Yea, Steve Mullins was convicted quite recently of 1st degree murder, last Nov of 2008. Only 8 mos ago.
 
AW site...I commented on that earlier too. It's odd that only LB is friends with that profile. All apps were added on Mondays ...all a week apart... I think it was just created to have another profile to play with the apps. Only prob with that is... it was signed into on 6/28... 2 days after LB went missing.

This might shed some insight into why the FBI's got their Internet Div. out in McCleary running the investigation...
 
OK so who's a mappy person, where's JM property/creek in relation to everything?? I have neither the skill nor the patience w/ Google maps :) I'll see if this has already been posted elsewhere...
 
i thinks there is a map out there...i will try and find it too....brb...
 
i also found some news paper stuff on the case...with an email address to the reporter who wrote it...
 
Hey there and Good Mornin!

I didn't think of that... However in the pics posted above, it looks like traffic goes both ways and not a one way street. The reason I mentioned the alternate route on W Simpson, is because of them mentioning the hill on 6th street... 6th runs into W Simpson... W Simpson runs parallel to W Maple...

Est. walking time with this route... 11 mins (.6 miles)

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Est. walking time with this route... 8 mins (.4 miles)

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Now...lets throw this monkey wrench in...what if LB decided to change that route & either took the 1st one above or went right on 6th...

Est. walking time with this route... 15 mins (.8 miles)

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What I would love to know is this... where is that hill on 6th street that KK spoke of? Which direction? If she went that route and the dogs lost her scent... if in fact that is true, maybe another friend lives on one of those streets (as said) and she wanted to see bout staying over there or whatnot. Maybe someone around there took her...whether they knew her or not... what do those roads look like? Are they a little more busy? I noticed on google maps when I changed the route to Pine street, it says ...
Use caution – This route may be missing sidewalks or pedestrian paths. What if someone hit her w/ their car and panicked ?

bumping....still looking to see if someone added....M old guys place
 
Hi All,

First time here. I have been reading websleuths for a few months now, but had not joined until yesterday.

I live in McCleary, WA and would like to point out a few things about our little town. In order to do that, please refer to the map I am going to try and post below.

Maple is a two-way street, by the way. The only one-way that I know of is right there parallel to 3rd street.

3rd street and Simpson are the two busiest streets. McCleary is located at a junction that causes this. Thus we get a lot of out-of-towners driving through to get the main highway or headed towards the Casino. So, it may be a small town, but it sees it's share of traffic.

Although you can't tell from the map very easily, 3rd street is on a pretty good incline from South to North. So as you head into town, you must ride the brakes not to exceed the 25 mph speed limit. This in turn has caused a police officer to often sit and radar from the bottom of the hill, on the side of the police station. This vehicle is parked there a lot and it's hard to tell if someone is in it or not. This being the case, if Lindsey was abducted on 3rd street, that person would be taking an awful chance that someone might be in the police vehicle and witness the abduction, if it was some just driving through. (I do not know if the police vehicle was there that night at the time Lindsey would have been passing through.) The gas station is pretty bright too. I think it is unlikely though that she would have been abducted on that main street unless someone knew no one was in the police car or it had just left. This town is pretty small, it doesn't take long to patrol it. Also, she does not have to walk up 3rd street as the route would suggest. She could have easily crossed 3rd and walked behind the gas station to cut through onto Mommsen St.

Businesses open in the area at the time would have been the convience store, the gas station, the local tavern and the hospital, all noted on the map. Other than that, the town is pretty dead after 9:00pm, even on Friday and Saturday nights. It's possible the perp could have been a customer / visitor at one of these establishments or was just headed through.

This area is dense with timber also. In any direction you can go are wooded side roads just outside of town.

Well that's my 2 cents. Hope it helps clear some things up.

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bumping map
 
Map of Sand Creeks route through McCleary (or at least I believe that is it, I can't find it labeled anywhere. Sand Creek might just be what the locals call it)

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bumping
 
ok...I just found something ... I'm trying to find the property for JM using the county maps and so forth & I ran across something...

I found a site that has property assessments and so forth... this really may not mean anything but i put in LB's addy...it shows a pic of the home & the last info on it..what I see on it is a name that was said by "drunk man" ...

check it out...

http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/gh_Parcel/Search/DetailParcel.asp?SrchParcelNo=060501200401
 
Here is a new article with some comments from Mlachester:

p://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_063009WAB-Mccleary-girl-search-LJ.1fc0b759.html?ocp=2#slcgm_comments_anchor



Sorry, I guess that link won't work on Firefox. Maybe someone else can pull it up.

One thing she says is that 3 left for Kayla's house, not just Lindsay and her brother. She says Lindsay sais a white car had been following her. Another girl said a white car had followed her too and the man even offered to let her drive the car. The police know all about it.

Melissa M is also posting there.
 
ok...I just found something ... I'm trying to find the property for JM using the county maps and so forth & I ran across something...

I found a site that has property assessments and so forth... this really may not mean anything but i put in LB's addy...it shows a pic of the home & the last info on it..what I see on it is a name that was said by "drunk man" ...

check it out...

http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/gh_Parcel/Search/DetailParcel.asp?SrchParcelNo=060501200401


:eek::eek::eek:
 
ok...I just found something ... I'm trying to find the property for JM using the county maps and so forth & I ran across something...

I found a site that has property assessments and so forth... this really may not mean anything but i put in LB's addy...it shows a pic of the home & the last info on it..what I see on it is a name that was said by "drunk man" ...

check it out...

http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/gh_Parcel/Search/DetailParcel.asp?SrchParcelNo=060501200401


WOW! Nice work... LB's mom must be renting from E and J....wonder if they live in the area?
 
ive found lots of GIS mapping... I sure wish we had an addy on JM and his lil creek!!!!
 
ok...I just found something ... I'm trying to find the property for JM using the county maps and so forth & I ran across something...

I found a site that has property assessments and so forth... this really may not mean anything but i put in LB's addy...it shows a pic of the home & the last info on it..what I see on it is a name that was said by "drunk man" ...

check it out...

http://www.co.grays-harbor.wa.us/gh_Parcel/Search/DetailParcel.asp?SrchParcelNo=060501200401


Good Job there CajunGirl, and he lives not very far down Mommesen.
 
Here is a new article with some comments from Mlachester:

p://www.king5.com/topstories/stories/NW_063009WAB-Mccleary-girl-search-LJ.1fc0b759.html?ocp=2#slcgm_comments_anchor



Sorry, I guess that link won't work on Firefox. Maybe someone else can pull it up.

One thing she says is that 3 left for Kayla's house, not just Lindsay and her brother. She says Lindsay sais a white car had been following her. Another girl said a white car had followed her too and the man even offered to let her drive the car. The police know all about it.

Melissa M is also posting there.

W.T.F.???? This just gets weirder by the day. :confused:

If it's verified I'm guessing either K or K's brother was the third person with them?
 
ive found lots of GIS mapping... I sure wish we had an addy on JM and his lil creek!!!!

I saw it posted here yesterday - the 400 block of ? St. I should have written it down. But I looked at the map and thought it was about 5 blocks down from Mommesen directly south of Lindsay's house.

I guess he may live close to where the creek intersects 1st street, but that is just a guess.
 
here is where LB's house sits... 3 houses from the corner & notice the lil alley behind the house...

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