sandraladeda said:
A few questions, to clarify.
John slept through this all? And John went along with a cover up? or does john, to this day, believe it was a kidnapping/sexual assault gone wrong?
And Patsy slept through it all too, until the scream, at which time she realized her daughter had been killed, and instead of outrage, or summoning her husband to help, she went along for her "social standing"?
Why, if she is concerned with her "social standing", would she ever go along with a pedophile ring and allow her daughter to be abused? I would think information about this could be detrimental to her "social standing", no?
No one in the neighborhood witnessed a fleet of pedophiles arriving in the neighborhood, heard car doors opening and closing, etc.? -or - no one noticed the fleet of pedophiles who parked far away and crept in on foot?
None of these pedophiles dropped any forensic evidence? Or a fingerprint?
None of these pedophiles has ever been caught in other child abuse situations, and have never breathed a word to anyone, in 9 years, about what they know about the death of JBR?
I think John slept through this all
I don't think John had any involvement in the cover up
I'm sure he stopped believing it was a kidnapping/sexual assault gone wrong very early on, just when I haven't worked out yet.
I don't think he believes JonBenet was sexually abused prior to that night. But I'm not sure. If he hasn't he can't possibly make sense of it all, so I think he would be very confused. Unfortunately I have never seen the Ramsey television interviews which would be very helpful in assessing them.
I think Patsy slept through it all too, until the scream, at which time she realized her daughter had been killed, and instead of outrage, or summoning her husband to help, she went along for her "social standing" which most people find impossible to believe. But think about it, if this is true, then if Patsy hadn't agreed to go along with it, the perpetrators would have told John that she had been turning a blind eye to earlier abuse of JonBenet for years. What do you think John's reaction would be? I think he would never have forgiven Patsy, it would have been the end of her marriage and John would probably have been able to get sole custody of Burke. Wouldn't that savvy street-smart Patsy realised this? Do you think she would have wanted this to happen? Better to cut your losses I imagine would have been her way of thinking.
If she was concerned with her "social standing", she WOULD go along with a pedophile ring and allow her daughter to be abused IF the pedophile ring was right at the very centre of her "social standing"
I don't think the pedophiles arrived in a fleet. I think the first one was driven to one of the back lanes and walked to the kitchen door and was let in by Patsy who turned on lights which WERE seen by some neighbours. The driver waited in the car for a signal and then he walked to the front door. Another might have come in a separate car at a later time and parked a little way away then walked and possibly came in the basement window. Another, a relative might have arrived in his car with a passenger and parked nearby. One of them just had to walk across the road from his landlord's house. I don't find it surprising that no one in the neighborhood heard or saw anything, especially since all of this would have taken place after midnight.
It seems that some of the pedophiles dropped forensic evidence in the form of a drop of blood, a pubic hair, some kind of body tissue under the fingernails and some other DNA at some other undisclosed point at the crimescene. That mark on the wall below the basement window might also be a scuff mark from a shoe left by someone escaping through the window. Then there are the black fibres on JonBenet's body and clothes. There could very well be more evidence that LE haven't told the public about. So I don't think you can say that they didn't leave behind ANY forensic evidence.
As for fingerprints, I think people that covertly enter other people's houses would be pretty skilled in not leaving them. It must be pretty easy to use a handkerchief when turning a doorknob, and to just not touch things around the house. If they brought all their own equipment they could take it all away with them again. One of them was probably wearing his fantasy outfit complete with white gloves the entire time.
When the BPD had collected all their evidence in those 2 searches in the first week after the murder they were only looking for evidence that implicated the Ramseys so they probably overlooked a lot of forensic evidence that was there implicating the pedophiles. Once they had completed their searches I think, but I'm not sure, that anyone who had a key could come and go as they pleased. If this was so this would have been an ideal opportunity for anyone involved in the coverup to come in with the knowledge of where the REAL incriminating evidence was and clean it up.
Apparently none of these pedophiles has ever been caught in other child abuse situations which may be because they have all become very very careful, one probably scaled his activites to zero before he ultimately died, the other old ones probably had to do the same, the younger ones might have moved on to other kinds of sexual activities in other states. Some of them might go out of the country for holidays, I'll bet there's an abundance of vulnerable girls in the poor countries to your south.
None of the pedophiles would have never breathed a word to anyone, in 9 years, about what they know about the death of JBR, why would they? They'd have everything to lose and nothing to gain.
