Who benefited from the killings?

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Seaslug44 said:
In Nevada when it was intended for a body to never be found they would simply dig a hole in the desert. Knowing how deserted that stretch of Ocean Parkway can be and how loose the sand is on the South side of the road, why not dig a hole in the sand at the base of the dunes?

Or better yet, why not use a small boat or skiff to take the bodies over to any of the dozens of deserted islands along the State Channel and around the bay?
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Lets not even go as far as nevada. Lets go to New York. Acid worked best. No body, no crime. I believe killer of GB4 is a guy who watched too many movies and got rejected by too many "civilians". Not as smart as he thinks...I mean WTF, his first kill wasnt found for waht 3 years or so? That dumpsite, It empowered him. Making him thnk he found a loophole. If you enjoy doing something illegal, half the fun is getting away with it without anyone knowing. What drug dealers leave little plastic bags around their houses to rub it in anyones faces?

And aboutt he dunes.....they shift. He knew that, thats why none of GB4 were on south side of parkway. Especially when they start dredging in the winter.


Oh yea, dont forget.....Mr Piping Plover is on the southside of the highwya; the CIA cant even touch that area.
 
So instead of throwing someone in the trunk and driving to a spot the SK thnk s is safe....he is now going to throw a body into a skiff???? Too much work. If he was going to go that far, he shoulds put them in a 55 gallon drum and poked a few holes in int.
 
OK....Who could have benefited financially if these girls were clipped?

(not SG cause I am just assuming MP choked her took her money and left)

Who could have benefited financially from the GB4 being killed?
 
LINative13 said:
OK....Who could have benefited financially if these girls were clipped?

(not SG cause I am just assuming MP choked her took her money and left)

Who could have benefited financially from the GB4 being killed?
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Someone trying to get sex for free? Maybe even robbing them of drugs?

Now recently a guy in Long Island (Jones Beach) was arrested for impersonating a police officer. He had tried to abduct a 14 year-old girl, under the guise of questioning her
http://www.pbanys.org/site/news/state-park-police-prevent-abduction-at-jones-beach/ (a: "Lets see if I can become a Long Island killer suspect" type of crime).
Could the Long Island killer have been a person pretending to be a cop, just like this guy did, this possibly manipulating the woman into sex/oral sex or to 'pat' search her for money,drugs, or to get her into his car? Fake bust her,let her go, you get my drift, she is a servant of the ruse? And suppose she catches on or fights back? Just a thought and my opinion as to who could finacialy gain,or should I say, save?
I bet that guy busted in July gets a second glance from the case detectives, but only because its a no brainer.
 
With two of the dead girls having been told to leave their phones at home and they did it, I had thought of the possibility that they thought they were meeting a cop, someone in a trust position. I had figured he didn't have to BE a cop, just say he was one to get them to leave their phones behind and trust them.
 
Seajay said:
With two of the dead girls having been told to leave their phones at home and they did it, I had thought of the possibility that they thought they were meeting a cop, someone in a trust position. I had figured he didn't have to BE a cop, just say he was one to get them to leave their phones behind and trust them.
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Has it been established that they were asked to leave their phones behind, or just that they did leave their phones behind?
 
MP could have gained financially by killing SG and taking all of her money.

In the 2nd documentary (the most recent one) they show texts (very briefly) from MP talking about how SG said she wasnt giving him his cut or something to that effect.
 
I dont think they would simply forget them. Doesnt seem right. I feel naked if I dont have my phone with me. I have left my phone at my house not realizing it until I got to Manhattan, then taken a train back just to get it. Girls are worse than guys with phones. Especially prostitutes. Thats their life line.
 
Amber Lynn Costello told her flatmate that the john requested she leave her phone. She was very secretive about where she was going also.

Megan Waterman left her phone in her room at the motel she was staying at. It has been presumed she left her room to meet a client as she had posted an ad on craigslist a few hours earlier and it is unknown if she was asked to leave her phone.
 
The phone thing is just so odd; maybe it's important, but I can't see how. First, why would a serial killer care if his intended victim had a phone with her (I thought he liked playing with their phones)? If he was afraid the phone would get pinged during or after killing her, he could just take the phone away from her and throw it off a bridge whenever he felt like.

But what could a serial killer say to an escort to get her to leave her phone home? How about, "I've lined up a screen test (or photo shoot, or *advertiser censored* shoot) for you - don't bother dressing up, because you're going to be taking everything off anyway, and don't bring your phone or other stuff like that, it will just get in the way. This is your big shot - impress the director, show him you can follow rules".

Places where you can't use cell phones, or where they're discouraged - courthouses (they're usually not even allowed in the building), concerts, stage performances, movie theaters, funeral parlors, on airplanes, in doctor's offices and most areas of hospitals. Or anywhere that cameras aren't allowed (as most phones do have cameras) - SK might have actually said "Don't bring your camera, or your phone if it's got one"
 
PreciousDust said:
The phone thing is just so odd; maybe it's important, but I can't see how. First, why would a serial killer care if his intended victim had a phone with her (I thought he liked playing with their phones)? If he was afraid the phone would get pinged during or after killing her, he could just take the phone away from her and throw it off a bridge whenever he felt like.

But what could a serial killer say to an escort to get her to leave her phone home? How about, "I've lined up a screen test (or photo shoot, or *advertiser censored* shoot) for you - don't bother dressing up, because you're going to be taking everything off anyway, and don't bring your phone or other stuff like that, it will just get in the way. This is your big shot - impress the director, show him you can follow rules".

Places where you can't use cell phones, or where they're discouraged - courthouses (they're usually not even allowed in the building), concerts, stage performances, movie theaters, funeral parlors, on airplanes, in doctor's offices and most areas of hospitals. Or anywhere that cameras aren't allowed (as most phones do have cameras) - SK might have actually said "Don't bring your camera, or your phone if it's got one"
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This was one of my theories last year;

"You will be meeting with a famous VIP or political figure... please do not attempt to bring a camera or a phone that has a camera because it will be confiscated"
 
As far as I can recall ALC used her roommates phone. I remember reading that he said she didn't have her own cell.
 
PickleChris said:
As far as I can recall ALC used her roommates phone. I remember reading that he said she didn't have her own cell.
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He also has said in interviews that he insisted that she take a phone with her but she refused.
 
PickleChris said:
As far as I can recall ALC used her roommates phone. I remember reading that he said she didn't have her own cell.
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I don't believe for a minute she didn't have her own cell phone. I think it was carefully destroyed after she went missing. What man would want to be caught with a prostitute's phone?
 
LINative13 said:
OK....Who could have benefited financially if these girls were clipped?

(not SG cause I am just assuming MP choked her took her money and left)

Who could have benefited financially from the GB4 being killed?
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The killer would have because he didnt have to pay a dead girl ...plus he likely took whatever money the may have had on them.
 
The only person likely to have benefited from killing was a serial killer who enjoyed torturing and killing prostitutes for whatever reasons he had in his sick twisted mind. How much money would they have had on them and why not just rob them? Who would they complain to? However if he was supplying girls for snuff films or parties where the girls were tortured or killed and then disposed of, he probably could have made quite a bit of money. Am I making sense?
 
Justiceforever said:
The killer would have because he didnt have to pay a dead girl ...plus he likely took whatever money the may have had on them.
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Agree. Stalking Melissa, the guy could be confused whether she's depositing money or withdrawing. It must be hard to tell if he is watching from a distance.
 
fred&edna said:
I'm so far out on a limb here that all I see are squirrels, but I'm gonna throw this in the mix... just cause I'm brazy like that. I don't have any theories but... is it possible SG posed some sort of a threat to JR (see last few paragraphs of article below).

http://www.nj.com/hudson/index.ssf/2011/12/18-month_old_mystery_over_shan.html
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I have always maintained that it is very possible that these are all victims of a "fixer" or a mobster crew who specialize in the disposal of employees who are "liabilities".

Just remember the infamous words written about ALC; "I have friends who can take care of this @%^$".
 
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