concernedperson
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Linda7NJ said:I bet they had an incestuous relationship too!:sick:
Possibly, but for sure emotional incest.
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Linda7NJ said:I bet they had an incestuous relationship too!:sick:
Details said:I was responding to the idea that he was justified hitting the kid because he had a right to "defend your own property" - and that the shooting thing was all he did really wrong and was just "shooting at people and hopefully he didn't hurt them" - it wouldn't take much and the father would be dead, not just shot. And it wasn't the father's fault for being a good neighbor and going to talk to his neighbor (maybe find out his son was in the wrong and needed to be punished) rather than going right to the police right away. The father was being reasonable, and got shot for it.
I do feel some degree of pity since he's mentally ill, and it seems to be his mother's fault - but he still did it, and that shows he doesn't belong out in society until and unless he can be fixed. Involuntary commitment is where I'd put him.
The problem is that the involuntary commitment standards have gone from being too lax (easy to involuntarily commit people who shouldn't be) to far too strict (almost impossible to commit anyone who doesn't have a knife in their hand stabbed into someone else's back). And once committed, they can't be kept long (once they drop the knife, basically). And worse yet, all the funding has been cut so there's hardly anywhere to put someone now even if they do qualify.concernedperson said:I am dealing with this on a daily basis and I can only say this is the only answer. He is so faulty but his mother is as well. In order to protect society it is the only answer but LE and others usually are reluctant to do this.Until my brother is locked away for good none of you have a reasonable expectation of safety because no one knows when he will act out and on whom.
Details said:The problem is that the involuntary commitment standards have gone from being too lax (easy to involuntarily commit people who shouldn't be) to far too strict (almost impossible to commit anyone who doesn't have a knife in their hand stabbed into someone else's back). And once committed, they can't be kept long (once they drop the knife, basically). And worse yet, all the funding has been cut so there's hardly anywhere to put someone now even if they do qualify.
Details said:A lousy situation, and one that will only get better through tragedy. Where do you live? Are they working at all on improving the involuntary commitment standards - or do you parents even want to go that route?
I'm so sorry to hear about that - it's a horrible thing to have happen to your family - and there's so little to be done.
They're dead? Oh, boy - I think you are right. You can't get them exhumed now?concernedperson said:My parents say not at this time. I live 700 hundred miles away so that is good. I won't go around and neither will my children as they are fully apprised of the situation. It is waiting for a time bomb to go off and nothing you can do....police already know about this BTW. I read their local news daily just in case it is something hinkey. I just wait...and you are right it will take a tragedy. In that case, I want them to exhume the bodies of one of my sisters and my grandmother.
Details said:They're dead? Oh, boy - I think you are right. You can't get them exhumed now?
Schuth, who made himself infamous for storing his dead mother’s body in a freezer, finishes a seven-year prison term April 16...
He later pleaded no contest to attempted second-degree intentional homicide, concealing a corpse and two counts of first-degree recklessly endangering safety. He also pleaded guilty to federal Social Security fraud for continuing to collect his mother’s benefits after her death...
Schuth begins serving 10 years on extended supervision when released from the Columbia Correctional Institution in Portage, Wis.